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GWF's Unstoppable Bug in PVP is surprisingly still not fixed
bozar3000
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I see that the bug for GWF's non-activation of Unstoppable in PVP is still not fixed, that's nice. No I'm not dazed, silenced, whatsoever, I respawn and my Utility Power still didn't work the entire match. -_- Thought the PVP balancing would bring better results. Now people are ignoring and talking trash to me after the match saying that I was stupid for not using Unstoppable. :FacePalm:
The devs failed to recognize this bug in the update and I got to say I'm kind of disappointed.
The devs failed to recognize this bug in the update and I got to say I'm kind of disappointed.
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My suggestion to all who are planning to be a GWF, don't. You'll just regret it because of the ton problems with this class and now this bug seems to cap it all up.
As for people ignoring and talking trash.. don't let them get to you
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Yes, pvp on a gwf is that stressful LOL!
(which is why I now play a cleric)
Apparently the class balance hasn't done much to change how OP CW's are, but we'll see when the game goes live. Or dead, depends on how you look at it.
Imagine a Cleric who could never go into Divine mode, or a Rogue, who could never stealth.
This is a game breaking bug, and needs to be addressed ASAP! It doesn't only happen in PvP, but also during normal gameplay. I had to fight the Pirate boss without determination / unstoppable!
For the love of all that is holy, why on earth has this bug not been fixed yet?
Are GWF Neverwinters red headed step children?
Tbh my main issue with PvP atm is GWF's constantly beeing unstoppable. Their friggin unkillable.
Ive had my main encounters with them for a lousy 4k damage, only to have them pop unstoppable instantly, i run away to avoid them until its done, even tho one hit brings me down 30% in health, and they can stun + run fast. As soon as unstoppable is over, i hit them twice for another 4k damage, they pop unstoppable again and stomp me to the ground.
We had one GWF just standing at 2 taking on 3 players on the enemy team, he was unstoppable for nearly 90% of the fight, killed them all, at which point he was down to like 30% hp, so i went up and lasher striked him, this brought him down to like half a bar of health, so he popped unstoppable instantly, and me... with full hp stood there with dualist flurry slapping him the face, only to have him bring me from 100% to 0% ( i figured i could bring him down that HALF a bar even tho he was unstoppable). And when i was dead and unstoppable was over, he was back to 30% health again.
But it only works if you have a teammate to help you because there have been plenty of times where I solo this move and I get stunned and killed while I'm knocked prone by the same GWF I am trying to distract. Also Daze Strike if used correctly can be an alternative to blitz if you want to get up close and personal. Also make sure to use these powers after they used up their immunity powers as it won't affect them. Except Courage Breaker, and if you have the Scoundrel feat, it does 250% Weapon Damage over 5 seconds if you use Courage Breaker.
TR vs CW = combat lenght 20 sec, dagger dagger dagger shift shift shift last hit impact shoot gg
GWF vs CW = I can not imagine
DC vs CW = probaly cw win. yeahhh i won this time.
Ahem... Unstoppable is the Utility Power of GWF. -_-
Beginning of the match they seem to charge directly for me *rogue easy target* and then they end up face down. *WTF*
They come out of spawn and try again *first time was a fluke but this rogue nuub is mine* and then again face down at my feet. *WTF*
The third time they come out of spawn and see me, they don't even bother engaging. If they see me coming they charge off even if they have full hp bar. *op rogue!*
I found your problem.
I don't think you understand the point of the comment. I wouldn't take the time out of my day to help the community if I didn't think it was worth it.
I got tired of people complaining of OP GWF classes and OP Perma-Stealth TR classes. So I decided to "In-Directly" (Convert or Convince) the majority of PS, (Prolong'd Stealth'd) Builds, by making it as appealing as possible to let them know that they can Debuff and CC a lot better than solo Dam Output Class Builds. You also have to factor the other player too because you don't know what powers they have or feats or stats or even gear to counter what kind of attacks or moves that you have specialized in. Also having a random party for PvP decreases winning chance because you don't know their persona either.
Instead of using Crit % and Armor Penetration to deal "Max Potential Damage", Which doesn't make sense if the enemy player has a high Defense and Deflection stat to counter that, then its better to Debuff their Stats and make them from "Unstoppable" to "Vulnerable." Hence why I used quotation marks around "Unstoppable" in my first comment because I'm not ignorant and play only one class and then rage about how the other classes are unfair because I didn't take the time to delete my characters to try out a new class.
If you have a DPS build TR and a CC/Debuff TR you can actually do 70K Crit Damage with the DPS build (occasionally)
in PvP. It depends because you have to work together to complement the Crit % of that DPS build with a build that focuses on CC'n, compared to a Solo PS build that doesn't benefit the team in PvP.
If you have a CW with Prestidigitation and a TR with Critical Teamwork with a high DEX and STR, their Crit % "can be" up to ~40% minimum with the right stats and build, and with Gear and Enchantments that benefits Crit % you can raise it even farther in Damage Severity against a high HP Character. If you Debuff the player instead of using your damage encounters and stop playing Domination like its Deathmatch. You can win a match, because that TR just insta-killed a player who thought they could just Rambo the middle tower and ended up dying hence, you have about 10-15 seconds to rush to their spawn tower, Cap-it and prevent the enemy team from advancing on yours since they don't have enough players because usually half of them quit if you do that. And if you capp'd at least 1 tower you should get glory. I got a PvP reward because the player above me in the Scoreboard got bored and left not realizing him leaving made me the next recipient in PvP rewards. Hence I got free glory and free Items doing it.
Now that I explained myself, I think I practically taught zero people how to properly play a TR class, because its safe to assume people only read the forums for self-pleasure and won't take the time to get this far in this comment.
About more or less will read this... "Use Courage Breaker and Wicked Reminder on GWFs!" than this whole comment because they don't have the attention span to learn that if they used teamwork they can actually compliment other players in PvP. This is a MMO type game. If you keep on solo'n it, it won't work to your advantage because all the classes are designed to benefit the others hence you are only "Truly" OP if you have buffs and Stats from other players instead of trying to Buff you own character using self reliability methods.
Go ahead and use foundry and respec your author character to see the other classes. You'll see that there are feats and powers when used at the right time can actually make a "Team" Invincible rather than a "Bot" who just explains excuses for misunderstandings that the person doesn't take the time to figure out for them self.
Always have at least one Defensive role player, an Offensive role player and a Utility role player, Any class can be offensive, defensive, or even just buff or debuff the team or other team. A rogue can use Path of Blade, Blitz, and possibly Smoke Bomb and CC if there isn't a CW available. A GF can use Into the Fray, Knight's Valor or Enforced Threat with Iron Warrior and Shield Talent and Ferocious Reaction and never be killed in a PvP match if they have teammates to back them up. Using shield Slam helps with "Perma-Guard Builds"
they can unstoppable in any cc besides the proned state.
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If you want to whine about how 'op' gwf are, go make your own thread.
Someone above said they have never seen a gwf not use unstoppable... and that is the point exactly. Have you ever seen a cleric not use divine mode? Have you ever seen a rogue not use stealth? Have you ever seen a gf not block?
GWF need unstoppable to be viable as a class.
FIX IT.
Fix it
A GWF without unstoppable is useless..........
I think its not too hard to fix it
PVP - Die and zone back at fire.
I recorded a pvp match earlier after I had died 3 times and every time unstoppable was still bugged, it was only after the 3rd death did it start to work again.
I will have to upload the video, but so sick of this, I should have waited for this to be fixed before rolling a new toon, maybe I should have rolled a new game, that normally seems to fix bugs of this size I find that affect gameplay.
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It seems to be a general bug that is not just with GWFs. A Tr's stealth also bugs out the same way occasionally and it is reset/working after the TR respawns or goes to a different area. I wish the GWF bug would at least reset the same way.
There is no point to whine for nerfs because you win some and loose some. Crying just makes a player look like a crier and no one, especially the devs, should take them seriously. Have a nice day!:)
If it's still an issue would very much like to get it resolved for both classes as losing access to a core power is very frustrating.
It still happens on both GWF and TR. More often on the gwf, however not being able to stealth as a tr is bad also. Both bugs can also happen outside of pvp. I've not noticed it on other classes yet, just those two.