I would like to see trap detection be linked to certain stats depending on the class.
I would like to see more meaningful traps.
I would love randomized dungeon layout in general.
I agree. Epic dungeons need epic traps that can kill your ***. As long as ive played D&D it has always been paramount to have a rogue in the party. But not for dmg or tanking or any of that. Simply to be able to continue. If your group cant disarm traps, or pick locks, or use magical devices. Then the adventure can simply stop outright. IMO we need more of that especially in epic dungeons. It will also solidify what a rogue has always historically done. Rogues let you play the adventure. Without one groups can often no longer proceed.
This topic also ties in with something i think is completely overlooked yet critically important. Dying. As it stands dying means less then nothing. It would be soooo much more fun if dying equated to real loss. XP loss, AD loss. As it is dying is laughable. Heck, ive been in dungeons were dying only progresses the group farther through the dungeon, lol. This is very bad to me. Dying should have consequences. It all ties in together. We need to put as much D&D as we can get into this game. Traps/dying. Two critical, ignored, and overlooked aspects.
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bioshrikeMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 4,729Arc User
I would rather have having a chance to get a rune or enchantment or some scraps for professions from the traps. not all the time, but sometimes. And I rather have the traps be much more dangerous and randomly placed through the dungeon. I rather have that sense of danger than the static monster spawns and trap spawns.
Theivery Kits should have a 25% chance of disarming the trap. And some traps should trigger only ones. Which would be the most dangerous ones/ones made to be more dangerous Ie: Poison arrow trap, spear trap.) Where ones that can be tripped more than once arent as dangerous.
I like this... have traps grant some crafting resources if successfully disarmed.
It would also be kinda cool if some traps, when successfully disarmed, were placed into your inventory as an item that can be placed into a slot on your belt. Using said item would have you set the trap at your location, and then you could lure enemies over it to damage them, (it'd be used up after 1 shot though).
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All for it, 3/4 damage + a poison stack that might need cleansing (do something), and an xp pop for the rogue doing it then and there.
let the zergers whine away
I like this... have traps grant some crafting resources if successfully disarmed.
It would also be kinda cool if some traps, when successfully disarmed, were placed into your inventory as an item that can be placed into a slot on your belt. Using said item would have you set the trap at your location, and then you could lure enemies over it to damage them, (it'd be used up after 1 shot though).
That could possibly work. I would figure that as a rare or uncommon thing you get from traps. Successfully disarming the trap completely and intact.
Not having that possible in foundaries though. Since people can make foundaries specifically for this reason as well and farm them.
I'd accept traps being meaningful if they actual contribute to meaningful gameplay, or just make the game more fun.
Making it so there's a bunch of basic traps everywhere that constantly do like 80% of your health will only slow things down and make it boring as hell.
Stepped on another one, let's wait here and heal, ok let's go..... stepped on another one.
Giving dungeons risk vs reward paths perhaps, or integrating traps with puzzles, or maybe jump puzzles, or randomizing traps and making them part of a boss fight or something would be more interesting.
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bioshrikeMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 4,729Arc User
edited June 2013
I agree, knoteskad. At least from the PnP games I've run, you typically have the "puzzle" segments of the dungeon, where you have to deal with traps, riddles, and so forth, then you have your combat sections, separately. The current implementation of having fights practically on top of where there are traps is just annoying... These other ideas would make that frustrating.
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baaddareMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 0Arc User
Ok the way to do this is to give everyone a way to disarm the trap unique to that class warrior fighter type destroy the trap taking less damage or same damage as now, cleric same but be able to damage with spells, the wizard same as cleric or give the spell casting classes a ritual to disarm traps or the quickest would have a rogue with the skill. or could be easy just to give a disarm kit for traps. and make the traps count right now they are pitiful due to in real D&D you can't just go buy your health from a bottle.
already in the game you all can use a kit
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I'd accept traps being meaningful if they actual contribute to meaningful gameplay, or just make the game more fun.
Making it so there's a bunch of basic traps everywhere that constantly do like 80% of your health will only slow things down and make it boring as hell.
Stepped on another one, let's wait here and heal, ok let's go..... stepped on another one.
Giving dungeons risk vs reward paths perhaps, or integrating traps with puzzles, or maybe jump puzzles, or randomizing traps and making them part of a boss fight or something would be more interesting.
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I would like to see more meaningful traps.
I would love randomized dungeon layout in general.
I like this... have traps grant some crafting resources if successfully disarmed.
It would also be kinda cool if some traps, when successfully disarmed, were placed into your inventory as an item that can be placed into a slot on your belt. Using said item would have you set the trap at your location, and then you could lure enemies over it to damage them, (it'd be used up after 1 shot though).
"Is it better to be feared or respected? I say, is it too much to ask for both?" -Tony Stark
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You damned skippy. :cool:
That could possibly work. I would figure that as a rare or uncommon thing you get from traps. Successfully disarming the trap completely and intact.
Not having that possible in foundaries though. Since people can make foundaries specifically for this reason as well and farm them.
Making it so there's a bunch of basic traps everywhere that constantly do like 80% of your health will only slow things down and make it boring as hell.
Stepped on another one, let's wait here and heal, ok let's go..... stepped on another one.
Giving dungeons risk vs reward paths perhaps, or integrating traps with puzzles, or maybe jump puzzles, or randomizing traps and making them part of a boss fight or something would be more interesting.
"Is it better to be feared or respected? I say, is it too much to ask for both?" -Tony Stark
Official NW_Legit_Community Forums
already in the game you all can use a kit
Right-Pucking-on....the whole **** zerg dynamic kills meaningful gameplay.