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Upgrading Graphic Card

soulignasouligna Member Posts: 39
edited June 2013 in General Discussion (PC)
I have an old Graphic Card.... ATI (something) 1 Gig Ram and might need to upgrade my Graphic card very soon because I feel some Lag. Also, when there is alot of special effects by wizards or by others, my computer is jammed.


So I wonder what can you recommend me as a new Graphic Card to play Neverwinter for an average budget 200-400$$?

ATI, Asus, NVidia??
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  • liquidc86liquidc86 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    ati 7950 / gtx 660ti
    nothing to see here
  • mconosrepmconosrep Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    You can get computers that run Nevewinter okay for less than $400 so I can't imagine with a graphics card that costs anything like that much you will have any trouble whatsoever. That having been said you might want to check if the demands on Neverwinter are GPU or CPU related before you go for major upgrades.
  • stormdrag0nstormdrag0n Member Posts: 3,222 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I'm rocking two of these right now even one will be more than enough for Neverwinter or really any PC game.
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  • ambisinisterrambisinisterr Member, Neverwinter Moderator Posts: 10,462 Community Moderator
    edited June 2013
    stormdrag0n wrote: »
    I'm rocking two of these right now even one will be more than enough for Neverwinter or really any PC game.

    One 670 should be able to play any game at max settings effectively. Two could play any game at max settings without considering it twice.

    GTX 650 ti would also do well if you wanted to save some cash.
    Or if you prefer ATI any of the 7000 series (7800+) would do well.

    I actually have two Radeon 6850's and run the game in max settings without any issue. Just note card speeds are no longer simply about Gigabytes of memory. Card from 5 years ago were the same speed by title.

    If you want to do some effective comparisons check the speeds based on the video card benchmarks. You don't even need to know much more than "bigger numer = faster speed" on most benchmark websites. :)
  • chronomancerchronomancer Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 1,223
    edited June 2013
    I'm running a Geforce GTX 560 Ti and there's no graphical lag even at maximum settings. Then again I have 16GB of RAM and Core i7-2700K.
  • stormdrag0nstormdrag0n Member Posts: 3,222 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    ambisinisterr wrote: »
    One 670 should be able to play any game at max settings effectively. Two could play any game at max settings without considering it twice.

    GTX 650 ti would also do well if you wanted to save some cash.
    Or if you prefer ATI any of the 7000 series (7800+) would do well.

    I actually have two Radeon 6850's and run the game in max settings without any issue. Just note card speeds are no longer simply about Gigabytes of memory. Card from 5 years ago were the same speed by title.

    If you want to do some effective comparisons check the speeds based on the video card benchmarks. You don't even need to know much more than "bigger numer = faster speed" on most benchmark websites. :)


    You know I have always preferred Radeons colours to Nividia they just seem more vibrant and ATI offers a better sense of depth especially in MMO's...but I have had so much trouble with ATI cards dying or having driver issues lately, especially with newer titles, it sucks because Nvidia is more expensive and usually has fewer pipes for your money, but they are tanks.
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  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I got a GTX 260 (1.8GB), 12GB RAM, i7 2.66ghz (quad core) & I'm running EVERYTHING on max and no lag (other than what the devs fixed).
  • warpetwarpet Member Posts: 1,969 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    nvida gtx 650ti boost or gtx 660 or gtx 660ti,one of them should be fine amd have stronger cards only on paper but when comes to performance in video games nvida works a lot better
  • xellizxelliz Member Posts: 955 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Just FYI, according to TomsHardware, if you are experiencing computer based lag buying a new video card isn't going to help you in Neverwinter. Not that a new GPU is a bad thing, but don't expect it to fix your problems with this game. Better to look at your CPU.
    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/neverwinter-performance-benchmark,3495.html
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  • g35hu9g35hu9 Member Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    This question can't just be answered with a "Get this... HAMSTER"...

    To best answer your question we need to know what else is in your computer. PCI-E 3.0 is here and the 600+ GPUs utilize this new technology. New CPUs from Intel just dropped and DDR4 memory is around the corner. So tell us what all you currently have.

    Watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GC9HYG8wVHo to find out how to figure out what you got. Then report back and we can better answer your question.
  • chronomancerchronomancer Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 1,223
    edited June 2013
    Just run dxdiag.exe
  • nectarprimenectarprime Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Making a recommendation would be foolish as you have done nothing to identify the actual problem or to identify the current card. It is very possible that you could buy a $400 card and see no difference in performance.
  • g35hu9g35hu9 Member Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    chronomancer wrote: »
    Just run dxdiag.exe

    The guy doesn't even really know what GPU he has.. I don't expect him to know how to run DXDiag...
  • nectarprimenectarprime Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    g35hu9 wrote: »
    The guy doesn't even really know what GPU he has.. I don't expect him to know how to run DXDiag...

    Hopefully he can use google...
  • banecrushrbanecrushr Member Posts: 129 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2013
    And to add to all of this, remember, internet speeds and band width and hops/ping to their servers. New pretty parts may not fix your lag issue. I run a vrey top of the line system, not going into what all it is, take my word I spent some money, max settings and lag is still an issue...BUT I happen to know my internet SUCS nads.. can't be helped atm, no better service where I live for the time being. 3MB is all I get from my provider so take your connection into account before spending money ...
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  • osiabunnyosiabunny Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    xelliz wrote: »
    Just FYI, according to TomsHardware, if you are experiencing computer based lag buying a new video card isn't going to help you in Neverwinter. Not that a new GPU is a bad thing, but don't expect it to fix your problems with this game. Better to look at your CPU.
    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/neverwinter-performance-benchmark,3495.html

    Seems weird, my processor is pretty old now and I am not experiencing any of these problems others are. Using a 965 BE Amd with only 8 gigs of ram and a ati something forgot at the moment.

    But it manages to run this game at max, on their DirectX 11 beta only thing not max is antiailsing which seems ot crash the client when I go from x8 to x16
  • galahad01galahad01 Member Posts: 116 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Hello Souligna,

    I want to like NWO very much but I would like to ask you to have a look at my post in the Tech Issue forums of NWO, as I am having an issue for sometime now and still can't get to the bottom of it.

    Whatever you decide to do for an upgrade I really hope it works out for you, as I read a lot of things about people saying how Crappy the graphics were , I couldn't disagree more. I just wish my card would get out of this take-off mode.

    And not knowing for sure, I still blame it on some shard update after the Cat. Fiasco.

    Just for the record I am still talking with my computer support, their answer is, Another Video card Exchange ......???? Oo and I believe that they may be swapping out the PSU as well.

    if anyone else here would care to read up on my link from the NWO tech forums I would be happy to read any advice as well.

    Cheers!

    http://techsupport.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=22901
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  • imivoimivo Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 1,682 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2013
    liquidc86 wrote: »
    ati 7950 / gtx 660ti

    These give you pretty must the best performance/price ratio at the moment. I'd go with the Nvidia one (the 660ti, though a 560ti is still great too), there are just fewer issues with Nvidia cards than with ATI ones, drivers tend to be updated more frequently (the beta ones), and they have PhysicX. Also better Linux support, if it's ever a concern.

    Note, though, you need to have a power supply (PSU) that can handle new cards, and your case needs to be able to hold them. Games are also dependent on other components, like your processor. A new card will be bottlenecked by a dated CPU.
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  • glcjacktherglcjackther Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    banecrushr wrote: »
    And to add to all of this, remember, internet speeds and band width and hops/ping to their servers. New pretty parts may not fix your lag issue. I run a vrey top of the line system, not going into what all it is, take my word I spent some money, max settings and lag is still an issue...BUT I happen to know my internet SUCS nads.. can't be helped atm, no better service where I live for the time being. 3MB is all I get from my provider so take your connection into account before spending money ...

    That's an entirely different form of "lag", that would be slow to cast spells, sudden deaths, disconnections etc... nothing to do with a hardware form of lag.

    If anything, that kind of lag would improve your performance with a sudden increase in FPS.

    As for the op, you should list your CPU spec, as you may be able to squeeze in a new CPU/motherboard if it's needed, it would be absolutely pointless to send you on your way to buy a 7XXX AMD / 6XX nVidia series graphics card, you may end up bottlenecking performance until you can replace the CPU.
  • nectarprimenectarprime Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    glcjackther wrote: »
    That's an entirely different form of "lag", that would be slow to cast spells, sudden deaths, disconnections etc... nothing to do with a hardware form of lag.

    If anything, that kind of lag would improve your performance with a sudden increase in FPS.

    As for the op, you should list your CPU spec, as you may be able to squeeze in a new CPU/motherboard if it's needed, it would be absolutely pointless to send you on your way to buy a 7XXX AMD / 6XX nVidia series graphics card, you may end up bottlenecking performance until you can replace the CPU.

    I'm sure you know this, but "upgrading" a motherboard and CPU is pretty pointless, as you'll usually need almost everything new anyway. Best to just buy/build a new machine.
  • banecrushrbanecrushr Member Posts: 129 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2013
    I get this, but he never stated what type of lag he is having...I was imply adding the "other" side of lag as an over all issue. And you left out rubber banding, spot hopping etc.. those are net lag issues.
    glcjackther wrote: »
    That's an entirely different form of "lag", that would be slow to cast spells, sudden deaths, disconnections etc... nothing to do with a hardware form of lag.

    If anything, that kind of lag would improve your performance with a sudden increase in FPS.

    As for the op, you should list your CPU spec, as you may be able to squeeze in a new CPU/motherboard if it's needed, it would be absolutely pointless to send you on your way to buy a 7XXX AMD / 6XX nVidia series graphics card, you may end up bottlenecking performance until you can replace the CPU.
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  • trevien29trevien29 Member Posts: 257 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Running a ATI 6770, have no graphic issues and can run at Max, same settings I had on TOR, Rift (by far the best looking game) and WoW. I don't remember what I had GW2 at as I only played it a month or so, but it was pretty high as well if not max.
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