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1k+ hp regen on Rogue? how??

deknodekno Member Posts: 181 Bounty Hunter
edited June 2013 in The Thieves' Den
I saw someone in the forum say that they have 1k+ hp ticks on their rogue, cant find the thread, i searched for items on the AH only to find a belt with 100 regen, rest is under, what do i do for regen to get it up?
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  • thedeadstarthedeadstar Member Posts: 201
    edited June 2013
    At least neck, 2x rings and belt should be possible with regen. Dont know if some non set parts got it as well. But except for PvP maybe it no use as a rogue though.
    Shinis
    Tong Lv86
    Server: Jian [DE]
  • chonir01chonir01 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 141 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2013
    Augment pet.

    /end
  • thedeadstarthedeadstar Member Posts: 201
    edited June 2013
    neither enchantments nor runestones add regeneration
    Shinis
    Tong Lv86
    Server: Jian [DE]
  • cichardcichard Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    neither enchantments nor runestones add regeneration

    but you can equip the stone with gear that you get 100% of the stats with..... so you can get some good regen but its pretty much pointless anyways... Life steal on a rogue is so good
  • norobladnoroblad Member Posts: 556 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Regen is also a % of your health bar, so if your health is high enough, that could be possible. Regen also ticks higher the more damage you have taken, so 1k on a level 60 with tons of health and regen and nearly dead is not as impressive as 1k ticks on a fully healed guy. ????? Context matters, in other words.

    Level 60 trash hits for 3k+. It comes in groups of more than 1 usually. 1k every 3 seconds is just out of combat healing, it won't save you if you gave up 1/3 of your dps and 1/2 of your deflection etc to gain regen!
  • chonir01chonir01 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 141 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2013
    noroblad wrote: »
    Regen is also a % of your health bar, so if your health is high enough, that could be possible. Regen also ticks higher the more damage you have taken, so 1k on a level 60 with tons of health and regen and nearly dead is not as impressive as 1k ticks on a fully healed guy. ????? Context matters, in other words.

    Level 60 trash hits for 3k+. It comes in groups of more than 1 usually. 1k every 3 seconds is just out of combat healing, it won't save you if you gave up 1/3 of your dps and 1/2 of your deflection etc to gain regen!

    Regen is actually a % of your missing health, not your health bar. You'll notice it ticks for more the lower your are in HP. Its not supposed to let you facetank everything, its there to add some in combat healing while you still avoid / mitigate as best you can. It will up your suvival, you have to decide if the allocation to regen is worth the loss in other stats though. Personally on my Rogue I go more for Life Steal since we can do HAMSTER dmg spikes, my life steal is at 10.2%, criting a lashing = asston of self healing :)
  • deknodekno Member Posts: 181 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2013
    chonir01 wrote: »
    Augment pet.

    /end

    what is that supposed to mean? regen is only found as a stat on gear and doesnt exist on runes, enchants or any other equip, even with an augmented companion i dont see how u can get 1k+ hp ticks on a rogue. Best regen gear i found was about 100 without sacrificing too much crit and armor pen.

    gaining health on the chance of dying is no good option for me, i rather back off a little, regain some health and then restart my rotation, my gear already has lifesteal on the set so i want regen. there are always these situations in dungeons where you get out of your team and you have to run back to them, being low health trying to escape the adds trying to reach the rest of my team with low hp is the worst **** i know about.

    and who likes to start a fight with half health? potting before every rotation just becomes boring and just tells you your character is not good enough for the lvl he is on.
  • norobladnoroblad Member Posts: 556 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    dekno wrote: »
    Best regen gear i found was about 100 without sacrificing too much crit and armor pen.

    gaining health on the chance of dying is no good option for me, i rather back off a little, regain some health and then restart my rotation, my gear already has lifesteal on the set so i want regen. there are always these situations in dungeons where you get out of your team and you have to run back to them, being low health trying to escape the adds trying to reach the rest of my team with low hp is the worst **** i know about.

    and who likes to start a fight with half health? potting before every rotation just becomes boring and just tells you your character is not good enough for the lvl he is on.

    The biggest problem with stacking regen is the lack of high amounts on most purple quality items. If someone wanted to stack it, they could get 3k + off green items alone. If you had 15k health you need about 7% regeneration. I do not know what value it takes to reach that, but supposedly over 10% can be reached (??).
  • deknodekno Member Posts: 181 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2013
    noroblad wrote: »
    The biggest problem with stacking regen is the lack of high amounts on most purple quality items. If someone wanted to stack it, they could get 3k + off green items alone. If you had 15k health you need about 7% regeneration. I do not know what value it takes to reach that, but supposedly over 10% can be reached (??).


    im looking at AH right now, i just dont see it, there is a ring with 429 regen with no other stat and an offence slot, rest of the rings, icons and belts all have defensive stats on them with low regen.... i dont see it happen unless you cripple the rest of your build completely.

    it would be easy if i could chose some random gear piece with regen cause there are plenty of them, but im running swashbuckling set and the jewelery with regen is bad.
  • norobladnoroblad Member Posts: 556 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    exactly, its not possible to do it in epic quality gear (unless there exist, and I know of none, purple randoms???). I have found plenty of blue randoms, but no purple.

    That ring X2 and a similar necklace is about 1300 rating. 100 on a couple of epics exists I think (though not sure which specific pieces). Should be able to hit 1500 but, as you said, you give something up.

    If your point is you can't do it without giving something up, that is correct. If your point is, you can't do it with quality gear, that is pretty accurate as well though you can get a high value with a mix of junk and epic. If you are saying it can't be done, well I think that would be wrong, it can be, just have to ask how much regen is worth how much of other stats.... and again, that ring on a pet would be a decent item for someone trying to stack regen. A good armor pen offense rune in there and its solid.
  • gambitclickgambitclick Banned Users, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 239 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2013
    Yeah go full regen and you'll be another useless Rogue in dungeons. I stay alive just fine without tons of Regen or Defensive gear.
  • deknodekno Member Posts: 181 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2013
    noroblad wrote: »
    exactly, its not possible to do it in epic quality gear (unless there exist, and I know of none, purple randoms???). I have found plenty of blue randoms, but no purple.

    That ring X2 and a similar necklace is about 1300 rating. 100 on a couple of epics exists I think (though not sure which specific pieces). Should be able to hit 1500 but, as you said, you give something up.

    If your point is you can't do it without giving something up, that is correct. If your point is, you can't do it with quality gear, that is pretty accurate as well though you can get a high value with a mix of junk and epic. If you are saying it can't be done, well I think that would be wrong, it can be, just have to ask how much regen is worth how much of other stats.... and again, that ring on a pet would be a decent item for someone trying to stack regen. A good armor pen offense rune in there and its solid.

    ye, gonna see what happens when my stone is lvl'd.
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