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Double astral shield Should be Nerfed
darkami669
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Double astral shield WAAAAAY overpowered in general.
PVE - it gets rid of tanks , on most encounters . If developers played their game , you see tons and tons of groups forming with no tanks, just two clerics. Only really need two classes CW , DC ( few fights TR ) .
PVP - Double astral shield , just /quit if the clerics are good. Your team can not win.
Nerf it , fix AOE threat for the GF.
If it stays as is it will kill the game as more and more people find out about this combo.
PVE - it gets rid of tanks , on most encounters . If developers played their game , you see tons and tons of groups forming with no tanks, just two clerics. Only really need two classes CW , DC ( few fights TR ) .
PVP - Double astral shield , just /quit if the clerics are good. Your team can not win.
Nerf it , fix AOE threat for the GF.
If it stays as is it will kill the game as more and more people find out about this combo.
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Astral shield stack is powerful? yep,
overpowered? No
Why? It can be CANCELLED
in PVP: Guardian fighter and Cw have at least 1 skill each to totaly cancel it and at least a pair of skill to trow people away from inside it.
in PVE: same story driders, black globes attacks and several other mobs have skill to cancel the circle, and other mobs can just trow you away, they may not do that willingly, but they spam ability enough often to obtain those effects.
I don't know what class you actualy use, but perhaps you should pass spome time playing as cleric and see enough dungeons to understand how skill work and how enviroment answer to them.
Second , just because you can throw someone out of the circle does not mean you stop the duel astral circle in pvp. With a Team it is really really hard to take a point with duel astral circles ( if you can then that teams were noobs)
In Dungeon delves, the cleric is tanking in anyway no matter what given the current aggro system. Maybe when the aggro system is fixed this might have some use, but if we as a role are having to heal everyone, while running from every single mob in the fight. While trying to heal ourselves at a 40% decrease to our ability to heal on ourselves. Plus our low DPS, we clerics loose everything at high levels if they nerf AS given the current systems that have in place.
When they fix the other systems, sure then AS nerfing might be worthwhile to consider.
Also if you join a proper guild or find a good group to dungeon with, you only need one cleric. Since they actually bother to kill the gazillion mobs upon that one cleric, so they are not actually tanking in any case and can perform their role as a healer and support.
Man, in not a "theory" a theory is soemthing that must be proven, this is a fact, not every mob can counter the circle, but in every t2 dungeon (and many t1 as well) there is at least 1-2 kind of mobs able to counter it, either by making you fly out of the shield or cancelling it totaly, some time you find both of them on the same dungeon.
About Pvp,perhaps I didn't explained myself, I didn't just write trow someone away from inside it, I wrote "cancel" it. totaly. gone. no shield on the ground until you can recast it and most likely just to be cancelled again and this not just in pve, but in pvp, if you team up with decent wizard and Gf you'll find fight cleric way more easy.
I , as cleric, got upset when it happened to see my most piowerful skill cancelled, but I don't wyne, is what is called balance, I got the nuke and other classes got the anti nuke, that's all.
Sorry for eventual spelling errors, I'm not english and got influenced, so can't say grammatic is a priority right now, hope the message in understandable. thanks.
Guardian fighters have a debuff spell? Which skill would that be? I'm only aware of the knockback.
Is actualy an attack, don't know the name because I don't play Gf, you have to find it out in game, sorry.
semi-rant:
Even funnier with 2 GF 3dps vs 2 clerics 3 useless dps. Clerics holding down the middle, dps wants to join you in the middle. So you're like one cleric on 1 and one on 3. Let me get the mage, you take the 2 rogues. They don't listen and still go mid. -_- Really! So when you have the chance you check their gear. Really, they're wearing Green -_-.
I agree... However it is the only way most of the PvE end game encounters CAN be done by most people (unless you are knocking NPCs off cliffs, etc) so if you nerf it without changing the rest you would make it so NO ONE would be able to do it that was not already over-geared for the content and was just farming.
one more time, CW is the most OP class in the history of the mmos. I have never seen a wizard defeat all classes so easy like in this game.
And i make me a question. Stamina works with strong. I dont believe the cw have 24 in stronge, so, how can they jump 3 times follow? they attack in range, have more stamina without spend points than other classes, more damage, more cc, more of all. Just CW, like i said, is the unique and the most OP class in this game, and the most op wizard of all games.
Clerics heal. They keep team members alive. 2 clerics do doubly as good. Good teams can use CC and knockback to focus down the clerics and dominate, i've seen it plenty of times. Just don't expect your team of 5 lolrogues to do so well flinging daggers at players in the circles. Use some strategy and teamwork.