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xen1912
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Is it just me or are a lot of people so rage-filled?
I have had very good luck with pugs until now. once you make one mistake you just get flamed. its like everyone is so focused on the perfect run. they don't treat it like what its supposed to be... fun. if you don't use a shortcut they get mad. if you are moving slow and doing something else for a second, they get mad.
I have had very good luck with pugs until now. once you make one mistake you just get flamed. its like everyone is so focused on the perfect run. they don't treat it like what its supposed to be... fun. if you don't use a shortcut they get mad. if you are moving slow and doing something else for a second, they get mad.
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shortcuts are a different issue though...
what happened was I was leading them by 2 million damage. i might have walked into a pack of mobs just cause i wasn't looking at my screen, that doesn't mean i should be given rude remarks. it wasn't even a dungeon delve. ive done all dungeons multiple times and know how to do them. people just take things too seriously. it really ruins the dungeon for me. Also. clerics telling rogues to stand in the circle when i havnt got below 70% hp at all is quite annoying.. because that's insulting our play style. i was told multiple times to stay in the cleric circle when i clearly did not want to as i was aiming for something else. most damage taken achievement. people assume i would die just by not being in the circle.
Why weren't you looking at your screen? :P kinda detrimental to your gameplay if you don't ;P (joking ofc)
But in all seriousness, sounds like an honest mistake and you just got a bit of a tool as a party member XD just ignore them, and adopt the "I'll mute you at a moments notice if you're gonna be a child" attitude. But do remember to apologize for a mistake that ends up costing the group as that's the right thing to do.
And playing by myself since Aug 2009
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Wow, it's almost as if I said this would happen.
oh i did. i was multitasking at that time and stopped. this will teach me to only do guild runs to save myself lol. i didn't post this after one incident, but after continuously being insulted for stupid things. like how i was soloing mobs when infact i wasn't. Another thing to note. when you leave a party you can still see the party chat until you relog. very annoying and abusive bug.
Yeah, generally if you're going to be multitasking and not focusing on the task at hand, it's best to go with a tolerant group that knows this in advance, the thing people forget is that when you're paired with folks randomly there's no bond, no connection or tolerance they just want to get it done. Maybe next time try and pass it off and stay positive? if they can't be positive then mute them, the worst thing you can do is to say "it's just a game" it's irrelevant if it's "just a game" you're still taking up their free time.
Don't take this as me blaming you however and I mean no offense at all, just you have to remember that these are people, and their time is valuable to them even if they're choosing to spend it on entertainment. IF they're overtly aggressive towards you then you simply have to adapt to be thicker skinned while also taking a mature stand to it, you don't need to take their rubbish however, so if someone is making a complaint about you, ask them to justify it with rational logic and explain why and if they can do so, take it into consideration and let them know you'll be more accommodating if they are.
For example, I've given out to wizards spamming knockback and making me miss encounters. This is a valid reason to complain as they're interfering with both my dps and the groups, for no reason more often than not. IF someone was to complain because I got stunned and hit by a high damage aoe, due to the mistake of others, and they try to lay the blame on me, that's a TOTALLY different thing though, and I feel everyone should be allowed a mistake or two as long as it's not a massive wipe level of mistake.
This.
I consider myself a reasonable player, I have a 60 rogue and cleric. I haven't done all instances yet, mostly because of this type of behaviour. I've done a couple of the harder runs like Spell Plague and tried Wolf Dens(which ended in a rage quitter) but I still have to learn most of the new places yet.
I don't want to end up in groups like this as it's no fun at all. Occasionially you see someone looking for a group stating, no experience required, were willing to explain fights but at the moment it's a rare thing.
I would sugesst just waiting it out a little bit, most of those types of players will be gone soon enough, saying this game is dying etc etc, all that will be left will be the long term players who are alot easier to get along with and alot more fun to play along side.
The 'waste of time' people talk about is kind of pointless, imo the only waste of time is when you get the rage quitters. I mean they're playing a game which is in essence 'wasting time' itself.
Not that it makes it ok but you're rolling the dice when you queue by yourself
One thing to keep in mind though regarding pugs is that many people there just want to finish the dungeon as fast and easy as possible and thus the tolerance is lower
It's always better to go with friends or guildies
This is one of the reasons I rarely group any more. It's always GO GO GO liked it an unpleasant chore that you want done and over with. Also, perfection or near perfection should NOT be required in the hardest content. I want to relax and play a friggin' game, not qualify for the video olympics.
I never said you should rush, that can result in more mistakes. So please don't put words in my mouth. No one even should ask for perfection, as always I demand COMPETENCE and NOTHING more. You should easily be able to relax and enjoy yourself if everyone is competent and playing to that level. If not, someone has to go and be replaced. Simple as.
No i'm not. Incompetence outside of early dungeons where folks are learning the ropes, is unacceptable and merely means that there is either A: a lack of conveyance in the game about it's mechanics B: a lack of a tutorial system or finally C: a lack of interest in learning to play the game by the player.
any one of those three are a legitimate issue.
Excellent discussion opener though. /sarcasm
Would I be wrong in guessing that you've been kicked from parties due to under-performing and this has tainted you?
This, there's nothing as annoying as someone tabbing to facebook while in a dungeon. Let all other 5 members do it and see if we're ever going to finish a dungeon.
Your quote comes off more as trolling. as he never said that in the first place. and there is a difference from tabbing to facebook and having an unexpected life situation.
More or less, for some reason... and you'll have to forgive me if you read this and it doesn't apply to ya.
Folks seem to have gotten it into their heads that it's acceptable for them to be carried through dungeons cos "it's just a game"
This of course is pure selfishness and laziness, people are constantly attacking folks calling them whiners, and whatnot. Yet it seems totally fine to be a complete lazy muppet ingame.
Yes, I completley agree with you. People's logic are flawed, common sense is not common. If someone wants to put the party at risk by tabbing and not listening then by all means don't play the game, it costs injury kits and frustration to be paired up with people who lacks simple gaming mechanics.
@Xen1912: You can say it's trolling but it's not really that harmful. I just think this guy nails every single point and has a wider view putting himself in other people's shoe if said case was happening.
I enter the party alone, I don't have other people who will queue with me. They're tired of being ignored when explaining things.
But I'm here for me, they're just scenery to me, minions to do the heavy lifting.
I tab out to water my crops in farmville, I send everyone a request whom I haven't already.
i'm last on dps after the healer and tank, I haven't used a single daily since I arrived.
A blue drops. My class can't use it, but if I don't need on it now and get kicked again I'll not have something to sell on the AH.
I need on it and rage ensues, I turn it around on them and call them "whiners" and tell them to "l2p"
The player who could have used the drop begins to rage and asks for me to be kicked, what an a**... I respond with flame in between browsing pictures on FJ. Eventually the party leader decides it's too much drama and leaves, party lead passes to me and further rage ensues.
sorry, couldn't resist it xD
There have been times when it was very funny to watch somebody fall down in pirates going across that edge. over and over. wasting like 10 injury kits. ah... good times.
lol just yesterday we took a first timer, he fell - got a leg injury, had no kits - tried again and failed because of said leg injury and got a worse leg injury. I finally had pitty and killed myself so I could spawn up there and give him some kits.
Opinions cannot 'happen'
But feel free to post more complaints on the forums. Clearly you're... very upset with the game and its producer.
Can't imagine why you take time out from playing other games to post here on these foru...oh wait.
See you in game.
/tissue
pressing need solve all problems in that case
i hate that weird rule out from nowhere
hey i spend 1h in this place and i go out with nothing
and when every one press greed one dude press need and gg
come on
Hey Caverndragon.
Nice to see you made it to Neverwinter. Grouped with ya plenty of times on Argo playing DDO and enjoyed your guild mates company as well. Your post is a sight for sore eyes among the chaos on these forums. Hopefully more people adopt your attitude about this game.
I think somewhere along the line the playerbase here forgot what D&D was all about. Grouping and having fun. There seem to be plenty of DDO brethren around the game scattered. Some are making their way out of the woodwork and posting their concerns. Lets hope more surface and shed some logic into this chaos!