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hexalicioushexalicious Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
edited June 2013 in General Discussion (PC)
Im getting chat banned every another day for nothing. I dont spam, dont insult or anything like this. I need to use zone chat to sell low value epics for gold. I need other chats to team up and play. Dont you think things like that are crucial for mmorpg? You made a flawed report system that allow exploiters abuse it, maybe its time to fix this?
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  • clortbagsclortbags Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I need to use zone chat to sell low value epics for gold.

    Yup that's why you got chat banned right there, trying to sell junk, nobody got time for that...

    Think about it no-one under level 60 want's it because it's too high a level & nobody level 60 want's it because everyone level 60 can easily farm low level epics for themselves.
  • hexalicioushexalicious Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    clortbags wrote: »
    Yup that's why you got chat banned right there, trying to sell junk, nobody got time for that...

    Think about it no-one under level 60 want's it because it's too high a level & nobody level 60 want's it because everyone level 60 can easily farm low level epics for themselves.

    You must be joking me right? I have every right to sell whatever i want, besides selling epics for small gold amount is very good for fresh 60 players that dont have that many AD and they can build up their gear on that. Your obviously one of this players that have nothing better to do then trolling other players becouse they want to sell something. Im not spamming chat just adversite things i got to sell. And your thinking is wrong i sold EVERY epic i managed to adversite, low lvl ppl love to buy things for when they hit 60.
    Ppl like you reporting for nothing, becouse their loogic fails, deserve this ban more then anyone
  • clortbagsclortbags Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    You must be joking me right? I have every right to sell whatever i want, besides selling epics for small gold amount is very good for fresh 60 players that dont have that many AD and they can build up their gear on that. Your obviously one of this players that have nothing better to do then trolling other players becouse they want to sell something. Im not spamming chat just adversite things i got to sell. And your thinking is wrong i sold EVERY epic i managed to adversite, low lvl ppl love to buy things for when they hit 60.
    Ppl like you reporting for nothing, becouse their loogic fails, deserve this ban more then anyone

    I think it's pretty clear who the troll is here and the only thing that's failing is your spelling & basic sentence construction.

    That aside you're right you have the right to try and sell whatever you want but it seems your interpretation of spamming and that of other players may differ somewhat.
  • clortbagsclortbags Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Futhermore I don't report anyone for anything, I choose not to use zone chat as the majority of the messages seem to be players trying to sell utter rubbish.
  • izatarizatar Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,161 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Spamming means unsolicited advertising. So...
  • hexalicioushexalicious Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    My spelling is wrong becouse my 1st language is not english, its easy to pick on someone when you know only 1 language yourself... And i dont see any connection betweeen knowing how to spell an beeing a troll, can you pls explain me that? If i send 1 message in chat every 30s can you explain hows that spamming ? Do you even know definition of spamming? So you said that "noone" would like to buy that items, and i responded that i sold every single one so far. You dont have anything to say about that anymore? Or you just gonna keep picking on my crappy english?
  • clortbagsclortbags Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    If i send 1 message in chat every 30s can you explain hows that spamming?

    Sounds like spamming to me...
  • vikkusvikkus Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Perhaps a Global Trade channel should be put into place. Like every other MMO out there.
  • jetahjetah Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I only put people on ignore if they post 3 messages or more without any other post (by other people). sometimes i'll ignore people who keeping posting.

    I'd suggest getting another account just for advertising. If it's chat banned it won't affect your Lv60.




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  • blaumkerblaumker Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 75
    edited June 2013
    If I get a "cheap viagra from overseas" ad in my e-mail, it doesn't matter if I get one a day or ten a day, both are spam. Do you have your e-mail spam filter set to allow unsolicited e-mails as long as they don't appear more often than a set period? Why not?

    The reason why not is because unsolicited correspondence on the internet is the definition of spam. The other definition is a luncheon meat made out of ham and slime.
  • clortbagsclortbags Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    jetah wrote: »
    @clortbags - we have international players here, don't be a **** by telling them their english is horrible.

    If I was going to make a public forum post in a foreign language I'd still use a spellchecker... just saying :)
  • flyingfinnflyingfinn Member Posts: 6,694 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Cryptic has been unable to make a Trade channel since from year 2009.
    It was asked multiple times in Champions Online. The answer pretty much was 'No'.
    But hey, it appears since the chatban system has made peasants revolt in NW something is happening about it. 3 year revolt in CO had no effect on it. So, maybe NW gets the Trade channel (and so the other 2 games get it too).
    Go figure.
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  • clortbagsclortbags Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    flyingfinn wrote: »
    Cryptic has been unable to make a Trade channel since from year 2009.
    It was asked multiple times in Champions Online. The answer pretty much was 'No'.
    But hey, it appears since the chatban system has made peasants revolt in NW something is happening about it. 3 year revolt in CO had no effect on it. So, maybe NW gets the Trade channel (and so the other 2 games get it too).
    Go figure.

    I can't understand why they wouldn't create one for us and a looking for group channel whilst they're at it it'd be good to hear their view on this.

    Also think it's bad now... just wait until they merge the server shards then zone chat will be a REAL mess.
  • flyingfinnflyingfinn Member Posts: 6,694 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    1st thing i did when i started to play was to switch Zone off. There's nothing there i need.
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  • lilmonkey222lilmonkey222 Banned Users Posts: 296 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2013
    If i send 1 message in chat every 30s can you explain hows that spamming ? Do you even know definition of spamming?

    Spam is unsolicited advertising. Which is exactly what you're doing. You might be thinking of 'flooding'.
  • jlanderjlander Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Im getting chat banned every another day for nothing. I dont spam, dont insult or anything like this. I need to use zone chat to sell low value epics for gold. I need other chats to team up and play. Dont you think things like that are crucial for mmorpg? You made a flawed report system that allow exploiters abuse it, maybe its time to fix this?

    I agree with you, however, you wont get much sympathy on these forums. This is what happens when you let a toxic community police itself.
  • ganjaman1ganjaman1 Member Posts: 792 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    People are getting bored of the spam in zone chat , no wonder that you've been chat banned " again " .
  • mamatankmamatank Member Posts: 52
    edited June 2013
    If you want to advertise sales, do it in the community created trade chat channel.

    If you do it in zone chat, you're gonna get chat banned. Ending advertisements in zone chat is the only way to make it usable for everyone else and flagging you for spam (which means unsolicited advertisment) is both appropriate and necessary.
  • ideagorasideagoras Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 55
    edited June 2013
    You must be joking me right? I have every right to sell whatever i want, besides selling epics for small gold amount is very good for fresh 60 players that dont have that many AD and they can build up their gear on that. Your obviously one of this players that have nothing better to do then trolling other players becouse they want to sell something. Im not spamming chat just adversite things i got to sell. And your thinking is wrong i sold EVERY epic i managed to adversite, low lvl ppl love to buy things for when they hit 60.
    Ppl like you reporting for nothing, becouse their loogic fails, deserve this ban more then anyone

    Sure, just like every other person have the right to report or ignore you for your behaviour.

    I sure as hell would report you for trying to scam people, gold is much more valuable than AD in low values, and also harder to come by. You`re being a <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>, and people are letting you know how they feel about it by reporting you.
  • neverhofneverhof Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 174 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2013
    The report spam tool is being used for different reasons, personally I don't mind if someone tries to sell something in Zone chat for gold as there's no other way of selling stuff for gold. Im not bothered about any for of item selling tbh as long as it isn't a complete list of someones inventory every 10 seconds.

    If someone is looking to buy something then all thats needed is 1 line, chances are some people are intelligent enough to scroll up the chat if they see something they're after.

    The annoying things that deserve a Stfu 24 hour ban are; gold sellers, afk pvp'ers, multi-line(proper)spammers and insulting comments imo, unfortunately since there's no way of governing the type of players who are in this game, as its F2P, there is a number of muppets that are trigger happy with the spam button.
  • nuncainvernonuncainverno Member Posts: 26 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I like to report people for spam.
  • swamprobswamprob Member Posts: 107 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2013
    vikkus wrote: »
    Perhaps a Global Trade channel should be put into place. Like every other MMO out there.

    The problem is that the game equates ignore with report. No one should get banned for being placed on ignore by several people, which I think is the cause of most of these chat ban complaints.
  • almostsk8trxalmostsk8trx Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    clortbags you are simply an idiot. One message every 30 seconds is nowhere close to spamming.

    You are also missing the point of what the OP is trying to say. The SYSTEM is flawed. It needs to be fixed. No one has time for your opinions on whether what he wants to sell is garbage or not. Players should not be allowed to chat block other people merely because they feel like it.
  • voodoopapavoodoopapa Member Posts: 187 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    People who get chat banned act like its just a handfull of snobs who are reporting them, when it actually takes around 25 within a short duration for the ban to go into effect.

    If that many people are reporting you, dont blame cryptic
  • lilmonkey222lilmonkey222 Banned Users Posts: 296 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2013
    voodoopapa wrote: »
    People who get chat banned act like its just a handfull of snobs who are reporting them, when it actually takes around 25 within a short duration for the ban to go into effect.

    [citation needed]
  • chai23chai23 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    You must be joking me right? I have every right to sell whatever i want

    Not by spamming general chat you don't.

    The issue is that even if someone is waiting 20 lines before they spam the same thing, all it takes is 20 people spamming to take over the entirety of zone chat, which coincidentally just happens to be the same number of people who need to report you as spam to get you silenced for 24 hours.

    I don't like automated mechanics people can abuse to grief other players, but I don't like not being able to use zone chat without having to go snow blind simply because every fifth player thinks its their own personal auction house.
  • beanyundeadbeanyundead Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 65
    edited June 2013
    Im getting chat banned every another day for nothing. I dont spam, dont insult or anything like this. I need to use zone chat to sell low value epics for gold. I need other chats to team up and play. Dont you think things like that are crucial for mmorpg? You made a flawed report system that allow exploiters abuse it, maybe its time to fix this?

    Uh, if you want to sell stuff, use the auction house. If you want to team up with people, join a guild or press, you know, the queue button. Selling junk for gold on the public chat is right up there with cold-calling houses to sell amway.
  • lilmonkey222lilmonkey222 Banned Users Posts: 296 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2013
    shahualing wrote: »
    It's common knowledge that 21 reports is required for a 24 hour chat ban.

    Naturally. My bad :rolleyes:
  • lilmonkey222lilmonkey222 Banned Users Posts: 296 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2013
    Uh, if you want to sell stuff, use the auction house. If you want to team up with people, join a guild or press, you know, the queue button. Selling junk for gold on the public chat is right up there with cold-calling houses to sell amway.

    While I don't think zone chat should be used for trades, there is nothing wrong with trying to sell items for gold, and the AH simply does not allow for that.

    You may have your opinion on selling items for gold, but that's just that: your opinion. It shouldn't give you the right to contribute to a system-wide chat ban.
  • voodoopapavoodoopapa Member Posts: 187 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    shahualing wrote: »
    It's common knowledge that 21 reports is required for a 24 hour chat ban.

    And there lies the problem with people complaining about this function. They call a system like this broken without knowing how it works, then denying how it works once they find out.
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