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Stat Soft Caps

neyph69neyph69 Banned Users Posts: 150 Bounty Hunter
edited August 2013 in The Thieves' Den
Ive seen a few different posts with a few different numbers for the soft caps for crit and arp. i know the %'s are about 22% for arp and 40% for crit but what is the stat number for those numbers? Im currently at 2250 arp(which is 21.9% so im fine there actually) but my crit score is at 2500 and only at 15% bonus. Does the bonus that it shows when you mouse over the stat only what your actually crit score is giving you? As in, it doesnt add in your Dex mod or any feats?
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  • solsol1337solsol1337 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 241 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    The crit soft cap has nothing at all to do with the % that your stat sheet shows. This is misinformation that I wish people would stop spreading. The crit soft cap is when crit starts to DR, which is about 2000 crit rating.
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  • neyph69neyph69 Banned Users Posts: 150 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    Hmmm thanks. I guess i can switch out some runes for recovery then..
  • solsol1337solsol1337 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 241 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    Crit probably continues to be worth slotting well past the "soft cap" though. Someone brought to my attention a flaw in some math that I did showing that crit is probably better than power (and thus probably better than recovery) until around 3700.
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  • eros1986eros1986 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    i have 4900 crit rating(48%crit) with no 5% crit feat...is it too much? i also have 22% arp. it does not seem that bad..
  • selonwselonw Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 258
    edited June 2013
    i get 49% with infiltrator and critical teamwork at 3600
  • thedeadstarthedeadstar Member Posts: 201
    edited June 2013
    3k crit rating is 17.1%, compare now your 1.9k extra crit and decide if its worth the points.
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  • smorztheoriginalsmorztheoriginal Banned Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 25 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    thedeadstar wrote: »
    3k crit rating is 17.1%, compare now your 1.9k extra crit and decide if its worth the points.

    I think there is confusion on which critical strike % you are talking about. Under Ratings - Critical Strike, or Under Offensive and Healing - Critical Chance?
  • aizenhart1aizenhart1 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 44
    edited August 2013
    i dont think its good getting your Crit over 3000 just to make a difference of 3% higher Crit Chance compared to those with only 2300. i'd rather put those extra stats on Recovery or Power. and Yes the optimum for Armor Pen is about 2300. Above that it has significant diminishing points
  • aizenhart1aizenhart1 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 44
    edited August 2013
    selonw wrote: »
    i get 49% with infiltrator and critical teamwork at 3600

    Really you have 49% with a crit of 3600? i have 2500 crit and its like 47% with Crit Teamwork no infiltrator action though
  • thesakarithesakari Member Posts: 108 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    aizenhart1 wrote: »
    Really you have 49% with a crit of 3600? i have 2500 crit and its like 47% with Crit Teamwork no infiltrator action though

    Race can play a pretty big factor here keep that in mind
  • aizenhart1aizenhart1 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 44
    edited August 2013
    thesakari wrote: »
    Race can play a pretty big factor here keep that in mind

    i know that... but my point is would you actually spend about 1k stats just to increase Crit rate by 5% maybe 4%?

    i have seen a lot of players with about 4k power and 4k crit, and 1.5k armor pen, can i know the reason why most people over crit their TRs? crit stat doesnt seem to increase severity buy why?
  • imthelonewolfimthelonewolf Member Posts: 36
    edited August 2013
    I have like 3.3k crit and Im above 50% or so.
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