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daschernacht
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Instead of trying to grab the tiger by the tail, confront it head on!!!
What they should be doing:
Change the coding on the currency....
AD/Zen/Gold all have a "programed code value" i.e. 0x023452342356234
Change that code value to something different.
Make us all exchange our currency from old "code value" to the new one.
Set up a vendor that takes the old currency and gives us new "Clean" currency
Set a time frame where both codes work..like a week (or whatever)
MONITOR this exchange for abnormalities and limit/reference/question/flag/research accounts exchanging obscene amounts.
Remove the old code and make all un-exchanged currency WORTHLESS. (handle people that somehow miss this on case by case basis)
This would render the large amount of ill gotten exploit currency (and the accounts it was sitting on) USELESS (BAN) as well as making a large amount of inventory sitting on AD seller accounts useless.
This would be sooo easy to code and would only rely on the player base to make the exchange.
Consider it "Currency Laundering" for good, not evil.
Not to mention, if an exploit is found again, just set rinse and repeat this process. Bring back the currency cleaner vendor and do it again. I would rather have to waste 15m exchanging my currency than 7+ hours rollback.
What they should be doing:
Change the coding on the currency....
AD/Zen/Gold all have a "programed code value" i.e. 0x023452342356234
Change that code value to something different.
Make us all exchange our currency from old "code value" to the new one.
Set up a vendor that takes the old currency and gives us new "Clean" currency
Set a time frame where both codes work..like a week (or whatever)
MONITOR this exchange for abnormalities and limit/reference/question/flag/research accounts exchanging obscene amounts.
Remove the old code and make all un-exchanged currency WORTHLESS. (handle people that somehow miss this on case by case basis)
This would render the large amount of ill gotten exploit currency (and the accounts it was sitting on) USELESS (BAN) as well as making a large amount of inventory sitting on AD seller accounts useless.
This would be sooo easy to code and would only rely on the player base to make the exchange.
Consider it "Currency Laundering" for good, not evil.
Not to mention, if an exploit is found again, just set rinse and repeat this process. Bring back the currency cleaner vendor and do it again. I would rather have to waste 15m exchanging my currency than 7+ hours rollback.
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Unfortunately, the situation is what it is now. The exploiters have won. Even the banning of accounts will have had little effect on players who created many mule accounts to store away AD and gear.
"Mod 6. Oh my f****** god. It gutted the game pure and simple. And what wasn't gutted was messed up by the poorly thought out new level cap and equip. The game never recovered from that atrocity".
..............not this one then.............
If the mules don't exchange currency it will become useless. That's what the monitoring of the exchange would bring to the forefront. 50 Mules exchanging Millions and millions of currency from the same IP address = Easy to spot. Without this they are able to stay on the fringe and stay undetected.
So any thought or suggestion that has the longevity of the game as it's main goal is whining to you? Please spend your exploited Currency fast! lol
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Until something is effectively done to scrub the economy clean, there will always be the perception that the economy hasn't been fixed. Even so, what harm could scrubbing the currency do? Or is it that you have many mules with much AD hanging out there and you are trying to protect your interests in them???
Why is it that anyone that says the economy is fine and nothing extra needs to be done to inconvenience people get automatically labelled as an exploiter? Is there really a need for it, or is this showing how bad the community around this game really is already?
They'll just use proxies and dynamic IPs. Organized exploiters are smarter than you.
You wouldn't and shouldn't rely on the same IP as the sole criteria....open your mind and use your brain a little. The example was just that, an example. Given the proper authorization, I could stop proxy and Dynamic IP work arounds, so no, Organized exploiters are not smarter than a Senior Security Officer at a MAJOR national retail bank.
Yea and it dropped to less that 200/per right before it exploded and went up to 500 in a matter of hours. He has a decent plan, propose something better; otherwise, stop trolling and try to figure out what to do with all your exploited currency once it becomes "invalid code recognized".
Yea, there were billions and billions of counterfeit currency manufactured and there is 0% chance that PW found and deleted it all so just go about your business until the exploiters decide to dump it all in the economy and screw things up again. The latter doesn't sound like much of a plan to me.
You would rather have another rollback or maybe a wipe? Yes, you are right, I DO think anyone that says the economy is "fine" and that "nothing needs to be done" are somehow hoping that NOTHING is done to protect what they have gotten through shady measures. Otherwise, what harm is there in implementing something as I describe? No more than 15m of you time to make sure that everyone is playing on an even field? If you are against making sure that no explotative gains remain, then you are most probably trying to protect YOUR exploitative gains!
O really? Because no major bank has ever seen a security breach? Bank of America, 21st century bank, and so on.
*snort* Don't bother. Once they start inventing credentials for themselves, the discussion is pretty much over.
Way to compare apples to bicycles there! And no, my bank has never been breached under my teams watch. /knock on wood.
Credential issues are a metric cra*ton worse than just hiding where you are calling in from.
I don't personally care if this has to happen to shut people up or "clean the economy". I'd rather not see another rollback or a wipe. However, I do have a problem with the possibility of this not being correctly told to those that don't frequent the forums, at which point it causes just as many issues as it solves. The only way this could really work is with proper communication, and we all know that those that don't frequent the forums/facebook/twitter aren't normally in the loop about what's going on.
Do yourself a favor....don't worry about the logistics of how this would be communicated. This would not be something to put information somewhere other than in-game for sure. Simple enough to communicate the effort:
Make a quest to visit the "Money Cleaner Vender Person." Kinda hard to miss those quests when they pop up.
BTW, I'm all for NOT rolling back and NOT wiping, this seems to be a simple, quite reasonable way to "fix" the perception that the next economic issue will be caused by the reintroduction of mass amounts of exploited currency. (or a HUGE reduction of the amounts based on the scrub/bans and expiring "old" currency that would most certainly take place.)
Simple, effective, promising......make it happen PWE!
ahhww those poor people playing with 2 on 1 computer.
they can`t do it, they can`t check all cases where the ad comes from also.
sounds nice and all, but i just think it`s not going to happen, it`s too cryptic for cryptic and pwe