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ziliphade
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So I am fairly new to the MMORPG style and I wanted to know what the veterans think of this game, since I started browsing the forums I see tons of complaints about bug, exploits, scams, and broken metagame.
And I didn't want to spend a lot of time on a game that will just flop, so are these just the kinds of things that happen in mmo betas or is it actually gonna be a big issue?
And I didn't want to spend a lot of time on a game that will just flop, so are these just the kinds of things that happen in mmo betas or is it actually gonna be a big issue?
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As for flopping... I have no clue is this game will. I'm of a very mixed opinion, this game is full of flaws, its business model annoys the hell out of me, it doesn't feel polished, the classes are somewhat dull... but... once I load it up I have a hard time quitting. It feels like WoW did in the early days, which is a feeling no MMO has really captured since. There are much better games out there (Guild Wars 2, especially), but this one has something "special" to it.
I am really disappointed about the release thus far but I have not given up hope just yet.
You still have me Perfect World and others like me, but please fix these issues.
The only people that will still be playing this game in 6 months will be the die-hard fans. All the rest of us will look elsewhere due to the issues you named in your opening post.
MMO betas are typically going to have a few snags, a bit of server instability, possibly a few exploits. They should not, however, be charging insane amounts of money for something considered only mostly finished and should not be having so many exploits. These are complaints that are widely known and have yet to be addressed. Combine that with the frequent downtime and many players will turn elsewhere for their MMO entertainment.
We'll see if the Panther and spider mount stay exclusive. There may be color variations to them available.
In all honesty, the zen store is a MASSIVE letdown. There is really nothing in it and it really empty and bland for a game that is supposed to generate they're revenue within this cash store. I think the E-Commerce department really dropped the ball on this. But hey, I am sure they are selling enough keys though to have already funded the game 100%, if not **** close.
I've been playing the game a lot since OB started and I'm having a great time, I say don't worry about all the forum drama and don't pay attention to all the nonsense chat in-game. Just play the game, it's good fun.
Honestly my biggest issue up to this point was the apparent lack of cloaks/capes in the game and yesterday I found out, they do indeed exist so - I'm happy, lol.
I think it's pretty much the same as other games have collectors editions 200$ is a bit steep in my opinion but it's a bit like the super collectors edition.
As for whether it will be around long or not, who knows. It will be around as long as it is profitable, launches always have a lot of bugs and exploits and so on, and a lot of other people with doomsday like predictions that the game is ruined because of this and that. In my opinion I think this one will be around for a while.
right now thats equiv to roughly $25 - $30 of zen so im not really bothered. as time goes on and more things become cheaper to get (mainly enchants and gear on AH) the prices of them will drop meaning there will be less reason to buy zen. look at a long term goal on the cash shop not how the current exchange rate is.
Some of the most annoying things is PVP afkers or spawncamping from other teams in domination but this is something that every MMO can suffer from it just needs the right tweaks to add penaltys/instadeath depending on the situation. Class balance is out of whack a bit depending how stringent u are on every class being completely balanced but that will never ever happen. there is always a flavour of the month
PvE in my opinion is really fun. im running high tier dungeons with friends and there are some real challenges and some are easier but part of the fun is being able to overcome the challenge of a hard dungeon (just ask anyone who killed mad dragon at lv 35) and with the dungeon delves buff it really makes it worth completing the challenge (dungeon delves buff is guaranteed class item at end of dungeon - may not be useful to u but it means everyone gets something regardless)
My overall feeling right now with the game is im enjoying the hell out of it with my guildies and simply if it becomes boring ill stop playing - for a FREE game really u cant go wrong if u dont invest money into it what have u lost? nothing other than time really and theres no other MMO's worth playing out right now in my opinion to waste time on this over another game
Dude are u serious? why do people keep bringing that up. a blue ward can be obtained from praying for 7 days then getting a augmentation coffer (chance of blue ward) or selling things on the AH and actually buying one with ingame currency for roughly 120k AD right now. Stop being lazy expecting to be able to get some of the best enchantments in the game in under a few days. work for it cos theyre worth it, and there is no need to pay zen for it. ive made over 1m AD in 3 days playing the AH and selling enchants/gear i find
It is F2P, but in the most annoying sense. To the point where it hampers game play a bit. It isn't like GW2, where the game currency is worth something, and thus worth gems (actual money), gold in this game is worthless, and the only "real" currency is limited. Prices are ridiculous, even with exchange. $40 for a mount is an insult, and sure, you can buy it with game money but it would take a forever to get it. Same for profession boosting items. The business model is the biggest problem with this game, it is downright exploitive.
I'm comparing it to GW2, which is pretty much the gold standard (pun unintended) of cash shops, you can get boosts, you can get vanity, but you can't buy anything that gives you an actual advantage. This game is too close to P2W, you actually get a leg up by spending cash, and with the exchange rates, you really can't match it with AD, especially with caps.
To be honest, this is a game I will play until cap, and then uninstall. At cap, its either a complete grind, or expensive as hell.
Not to say I won't enjoy the hell out of myself until I quit, but I will quit. This isn't WoW or GW2, there is no reason to stick around. If they offered a straight up purchase (for less than $200), or a sub option, I might take them up. But as it stands, there is no point.
It is odd to say, that even Tera has done F2P better.
And it was during the exploit sessions.
From what I've seen of it, I find it VERY impressive. It just lacks content and needs some minor tweaks here and there to make it run a bit better or to just make it more enjoyable. Mind you this is from a "Casual" type of point of view, and I think this type of game should be enjoy like a fine dessert. You can take small bites and enjoy and savor the moment you are in and really enjoy yourself, OR you can just be a pig and shove it down your face hole without even taking the time to even SAVOR the deliciousness that is this fine and neatly present piece of dessert like the mannerless swine you are, *AHEM* Got a bit ragey there, sorry.
Anyway point being, I enjoy this game and I truly believe there is REAL potential behind this and I'll keep saying it unless proven otherwise. Right now to ME as my personal opinion, which I am sure a lot will agree with me on this, that it just needs more content but seeing that this just went Open Beta as of...almost a month ago? I can overlook the content issue and wait patiently.
"You know you wanna fondle my dragons."
wtf are u talking about. i made 500k of it last night by finding shards and getting a blue ward out of a coffer - ur HAMSTER honestly
The game is very good, but it still has some serious issues. The worst of them, the cashing system, is here by design, so it won't be "fixed". The rest of the issues will be fixed sooner or later.
Ahahah, you haven't played them then I take it?
Wildstar is your best bet. Neverwinter kicks the **** out of the other two.
As to the issues, the biggest ones are to do with pvp which were present as of beta weekend 3 thats plenty of time to fix but they still seem to be there or atleast slight variations.
Its not P2W, its more like P to have fun, or have your brain melted by endless grind untill you gave up and buy our imaginnary **** in our half-baked game
There are people who complains about gameplay, glitches bugs
Its not beta.They taking money, they advertise this game as a Live, ****, they even force you to buy a respec token when you have bugged skills!
And then there are people like me who complain about Lore (whitch there are 5)
This game has nothing to do with D&D.There is no point to pick your deity, background or anything related to your character.You never hear from it in an actual game.There is no alignment system.No chaotic vs Lawful, no Good vs Evil.There are no conversation in a main quest (aparently we got a foundry for it...i gues).
Neverwinter, IWD of BD are about make an uniqe character as much as you can.Instead we got bunch of kids ,,PWNing us,, and 60 leves all gear up in epics...but none of them has ANY entry in character biography...
Bugs you can fix, price you can change...But the spirit of D&D you cant just pump up in a game...
Unless its DDO, of course. Sadly, like Neverwinter, DDO doesn't feel polished, and it feels like the market takes the forefront to gameplay, which pretty much kills games for me.
This game will be around for a few years, I suspect. Play it for a few weeks and if you don't like it, move on. It's free, and it's highly unlikely it's going anywhere.
Worst part is, nothing is being done about it- and most of these were preventable. AFK pvp farming for example- every mmo has afk votekick, afk kick if you don't get into combat in x seconds, and afk kick if you stay in the starting area too long... this game only has leader kick privs- and you're SOL if the leader is afk. All endgame pvp and pve gear being BoE adds to the problem heavily, since without that there would really be nothing to farm and sell for AD- that alone has made this game an exploiters paradise.
This might not matter much if 'basic' things were easily obtainable in game- but since you will need to use the auction house, or farm literally hours a day for months- to get bags, mounts, companions, afford respecs, etc.... anything that effects the economy like this is going to hurt low budget players who don't live in the game the most, since they will almost never be able to afford these things unless they spend real money. And the costs for items with real money is insanely expensive.
When you think about it- that might have been their plan all along, if average players feel they need to pay cash to get basics. Sure, some will leave in disgust, but some will also cough up the dough. I was wondering how a company who not only has previous mmos, but has dealt with THESE VERY EXPLOITS before could let them happen again- but if it's part of their cash making strategy, suddenly it's not so much of a surprise.