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So p much every epic dungeon goes like this
tweeter83
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boss 1 spawns adds
boss 2 spawns adds
boss 3 let me guess SPAWNS MORE ADDS
come on guys this game is great don't cop out with the same bull **** mechanics on every boss fight besides 2 dragons that is all.
boss 2 spawns adds
boss 3 let me guess SPAWNS MORE ADDS
come on guys this game is great don't cop out with the same bull **** mechanics on every boss fight besides 2 dragons that is all.
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Seems to me that they do not care very much about the state of their game else there would be a wipe after the beta.
Shortly after having DBM tell you exactly what to do in scripted encounters somehow managed to generate 12 million subscribers
Be careful asking for a change because they could easily change it to:
Boss spawns adds.
Adds spawns more adds.
More adds spawn even more adds
Even more adds spawn yet more adds
......
Haha, just cos two classes are designed around forms of AoE doesn't mean every encounter should have loads of adds. What the heck kinda thought process is that. Quite simply? It's extremely boring to have the same mechanics each and every time you enter a dungeon.
10 Dungeons. 20 Bosses. 600,000,000 Adds.
Welcome to Neverwinters extremely complex PvE content.
Yes, it are a bit too many adds sometimes.. But I like the challenge it provides. In solo dungeons I sort of hate it as rogue tho
Yeah, you're right. The cleric needs to concentrate on running around in circles popping potions constantly because clerics have seemingly infinite aggro that no amount of dps can get rid of.
The addition of a few adds, specially if harder elite ones i can understand at a certain % during a boss fight. But the constant addition of just annoying adds who due to a to perfectly working agro system will keep following a cleric in most cases is not the right way i think. I rather see a boss do more tricks during a fight then it becomes a endurance fight of kiting/dps on boss mostly.
Sometimes it's fun, but a bit of change really wouldn't be bad.
At times there's just no logic in the amount of adds and makes the fight not more fun but more of a pain.
But yeah if i could choose to a normal tank/spank/tank heal and this then i still prefere this... it's at least more action
Pretty much this. Show me a wow heroic that isn't "do this when this happens" that DBM doesn't tell you what to do. Don't stand in fire, but otherwise it's mostly keep hitting rotation, avoid fire, listen to the mod. A lot of them do have adds too, which i find funny, and most are simply gear checks. Remember when Cata was released, people raged at how hard the epics were, with so many simply having annoying interrupt mechanics over and over, and then a few months later after people got gear most mechanics were ignored to simply dps the boss down.
While i do agree some of the bosses do go overboard, and some bosses have way too much health (damage sponges, and fights taking way, way too long for even regular dungeons), the worst part of all this is that most dps just try and zerg down the boss, ignoring mobs and making the fight even more annoying. It's like they either don't care, don't know, or don't want to learn, that you have to get rid of adds when they pop up.
You mean after they nerfed it. I remember doing the original Dead Mines prenerf and it was a rough go but I found it pretty fun. Most groups that got it as a random heroic would just leave lol.
My beef with the dungeons is time vs reward. Almost all the dungeons minus a few of them take anywhere from 30-40 minutes fast and over an hour slow. I did Epic Spellplague last night and we had some pretty good DPS and it was well over an hour before we got to the final boss area because there's so much freaking trash in there (and worse there was trash in there that respawned blocking a person who DC'd from getting back to us!). I can't stand going through a place like Mad Dragon or Crypt both of which are pretty **** long (40 mins or so with a legit group) and it's like oh...here's your blue 60 item that you won't even be able to sell on the AH because an epic version will be cheaper...I hope it was fun for ya! Even then when leveling up the XP reward was virtually non-existent.
DBM or giant red circles. They do the same thing. Take aoe warnings out of NW and see what happens.
You can safely subtract GWF from that statement. All GWF does is take up a party slot.
Hmm... Perhaps that's because you're suppose to... I dunno, kill the adds perhaps? Just a thought
But in all honesty, at the lower levels it's not bad, because the tanks can't hold aggro well enough, so they aren't stacked on top of each other to begin with, so it doesn't seem that bad until 35 when tanks get Threatening Rush and then you start seeing it. I know I did. I instantly saw a change when I got that ability. Needs to be a level 10 talent IMO.
what the **** does WoW have anything to do with this game?
people want a different mechanic rather than "every boss spawns adds", so therefore, they're apparently "spoiled WoW kids". that makes no sense.
i actually like GWFs in parties.
and, you can remove adds from bosses and still have CW/GWF be useful; there's still trash, after all, and that's not to say that some bosses can't have adds, just... not EVERY single boss.
i've done every dungeon/skirmish from cloaked tower to GWD (45, atm) and EVERY single boss has summoned adds in varying degrees of severity. it gets ****ing boring to need to just kite them (since i'm a cleric) for the entire fight instead of actually fighting against a boss with interesting mechanics.
- spawning on certain HP thresholds, that i don't have problem with (you deal wit them and everything is A-OK).
- endlessly spawning, these I don't like. Often when your team just don't have high enough DPS, it is impossible to kill these ads and have window good enough to focus boss - especially if these ADs are heavy monsters (like 7+ health bars).
The Pit final boss have constant spawns of 2 Shamans (heavy monster), a, and generally this fight is for me (on my CW) often more challenging than...
Sky island dragon skirmish - ads that he spawns are laughable (ranged, light -> 200 dmg on unarmored target (imps in mad dragon are like 300-400 dmg per hit)), but on 30% he spawns 2 mystics that your team have to deal with because they outheal at least some classes dps. <still i think monsters could have at least SOME cd on their abilities (trapper spamin his net like 4 times in 12 secons is super annoying - especially since it ignores GWF unstoppable)>
Dunno, never had that problem. When I start bursting adds that go for my cleric, they go for me instead.
Rogues are caught in the net as well
I like being a GWF, but that doesn't make me feel like I'm contributing to the group.