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gralgrathor
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Am I missing something, or is this power just, like, terribad? Very low damage, high CD and every pulse only stabs one enemy at random instead of everyone inside the radius.
Does it get better later on (lvl 39 atm)? Just for solo leveling, I doubt it'll ever become powerful enough for dungeons or PvP, but right now it's faster just to stab trash mobs in the face one at a time. The more enemies there are, the less powerful this 'AoE' becomes. At least Bloodbath gives you immunity during it and doesn't take up a precious Encounter slot. And I still don't use Bloodbath.
Blitz seems better in every way; more damage, lower CD, you get a tiny dodge out of it, you actually hit more than one thing at a time.
Am I wrong, or is this thing in dire need of either a buff or a replacement. I realize we're single target monstrosities, but this is just embarrassing.
Does it get better later on (lvl 39 atm)? Just for solo leveling, I doubt it'll ever become powerful enough for dungeons or PvP, but right now it's faster just to stab trash mobs in the face one at a time. The more enemies there are, the less powerful this 'AoE' becomes. At least Bloodbath gives you immunity during it and doesn't take up a precious Encounter slot. And I still don't use Bloodbath.
Blitz seems better in every way; more damage, lower CD, you get a tiny dodge out of it, you actually hit more than one thing at a time.
Am I wrong, or is this thing in dire need of either a buff or a replacement. I realize we're single target monstrosities, but this is just embarrassing.
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I don't hit every target inside the radius of it, and I'm fine with this. I definitely do hit more than one more at a time though. It doesn't do a lot of damage, maybe 3-4k tops for the entire duration on one mob. Again, I am fine with this as this is a much much better skill than Blitz in a dungeon environment. I'm not there to AoE, I'm there to burn down beefier targets. Path of the Blade complements the single target DPS that rogues bring to the table - use it and then go about bending over the high hp mobs as it ticks in the background. The fact that Blitz puts distance between me and a mob is actually detrimental.
If all you care about is the dps meter you could just Blitz facing away from your target. Why waste a slot on such a poor AoE when you can bring something useful is beyond me though, unless you can't live without the 50k damage you will get from path of the blade in the ending table.
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Wouldn't bait n switch be better than shadow strike if you pulled it right before stealth ends? I know it's a longer cd but if you manage to make enemies hit it ap gain is awesome to the addition of stealth refill. No cast time aswell and a bonus dodge in some situations
I bring it for bosses. But PotB is just a background thing. It just makes the tiny(archers and the like) adds die a little faster.
Also, it's not a DPS meter. A DPS meter would be far far more helpful in dungeons than just "herp derp I did x amount of damage".
Protip.
Also, I prefer Shadow Strike to Bait and Switch because SS refills your stealth bar even if you're already out of stealth, whereas BaS only works if you're still in stealth.
Path of the Blade is our best PvP encounter, hands down. It's underused because people don't understand how to properly use it, and with the proper enchantments, it makes TR the best 1v1 class in the game (Sorry, Control Wizards.)
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For exemple with my Phoera, he usually takes all the adds on him, when I blitz I generate so much threat that every adds is on me, with PotB Phoera keep the mobs on him. And about cooldowns, with the appropriate feats it's not really a problem
"PotB can be used effectively against 1 target where Blitz is totally useless" If you are attacking one target why use either of them?
"You can also kill greater packs of adds with PotB" PotB only hits one target at a time, for a total of 19 hits, none of which crit. It's not a true AoE.
"PotB also give more Action Points and generate less threat." If it is indeed giving more action points it would be due to it having double the cooldown time. Also it generates less threat because chances are it isn't hitting most of the targets, and it does less damage in the first place.
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Once I realized that it stays centered on me, and isn't a zone that get placed at time of use, I liked it a lot more.
as for Blitz i really hate the backing move it make you do... im melee i don't want to be away from my targets , mobs need to be in front of you rather than all around for the PotB, even if it crit i still fell PotB do a better job at clearing mobs.
As far as the blitz jump back goes, it takes less time to take one step forward to hit the boss (all of our at wills port you slightly forward) than it does to cast path of the blade. And if you are using this well it can perform as a small extra offensive dodge.
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Also due to Wicked Reminder and Dazing being smaller aoe spells the AP they give is balanced around the fact that they are meant to be single target, if you can hit 5 mobs with them the AP gain is insane, you get huge chunks per cast.
Lurkers Assault + Whirlwind of Blades + Smoke Bomb + Wicked Reminder + Dazing Strike + Duelist's Flurry + Cloud of Steel.
That is my setup for dungeons and I have cleared everything bar Dracolich (which is stupid tbh and requires throwing mobs off the edge with dual/triple wizards for 20minutes).
You can animation cancel almost every spell, if the spell normally roots you or makes you move(blitz) if you cast it while jumping it won't root or move you. This allows you to blitz on the spot without being made to jump back, and it also allows you to throw Cloud of Steel daggers at a mob while you hop towards them which adds up to quite a bit of damage over a dungeon.
Wait, what? Nothing we have hits harder than Lashing, pound for pound, as far as I know. I won't argue the merits of Lashing vs Dazing in terms of utility/situational use but where damage is concerned you're either mistaken, or I'd like to see proof please (I am not trying to call you out for the sake of it, I'd really like to know if I am missing something here).
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I chose my words poorly, I meant to say "does far more dps" not "hits harder".
With no buffs and no debuffs on the target dummy dazing hits for ~4454, lashing hits for ~5991. Dazing is half the cooldown of lashing so the dps you gain if you use it almost on cooldown is far higher than lashing not to mention the utility it brings.
On most packs I am using Duelist's Flurry > Wicked Reminder > Duelist's Flurry > Wicked Reminder. I have just enough time to throw in a dazing strike before a wicked reminder without dropping my bleeds or armor strip. When stealth is ready I press it just before the start of a Duelist's Flurry and burn it off with either Wicked Reminder if the mobs have less than 4 stacks or Dazing Strike if they have 4 or 5 stacks. I use smoke bomb almost on cooldown but it is always timed so that it is not wasted, I use it just as a wizard casts steal time or just after they drop from singularity to get the best use out of the spell.
Wicked Reminder is a huge damage boost for the group, keeping it at 5 stacks on as many mobs as possible is my #1 priority. Wizards might have better control than us, but have we better aoe damage. I head-desk so hard when I see rogues trying to single target a mob and not helping the group aoe effort.
Dazing Strike, Lashing Strike and Wicked Reminder are all 3' cylinder aoe's. You can easily hit 5 targets(cap) if the mobs are grouped up via singularity. You can normally hit 2 or 3 if they are just close to each other but not stacked inside each other.
Path of the Blade is a really **** spell, doesn't scale from crit or crit severity, can't be focused on a single mob in a group, and the cast animation takes ages. I could understand using it in PvP since it is almost unavoidable but in PvE it's a waste of a slot. I used to use Blitz but once trash got a bit harder and aoe CC chains became a necessity if you don't want the dungeon to takes hours, Dazing Strike became better.