hi
i'm very disappointed with pvp and classes unbalanced issue.
i'm playing as GWF i have lvl 58 but in pvp i'm the weakest there is
i hit and hit and hit with my mighty big a$$ sword and nothing like there is no hit registration for that class
but come mano a mano with Trickster Rogue and i'm dead in seconds
GWF has no block but Guardian Fighter can block every every hit
... and this is so wrong that Trickster Rogue for is so OP that Control Wizard pushes u to the end of the map .. when GWF Roar is like a baby yawn ..
and if u really planning to make Weapon , Armor Enchantments etc to be only ZEN then there u go ... P2W ..
GWF can be really good at 60 and you will be extremely hard to CC. If you have problems with CWs, review your skills and your playstyle. There are two PvP guides for GWFs in the Master List of Class Builds, even with videos.
come mano a mano with Trickster Rogue and i'm dead in seconds
GWF has no block but Guardian Fighter can block every every hit
... and this is so wrong that Trickster Rogue for is so OP that Control Wizard pushes u to the end of the map
Yeah, TR has more DPS than GWF and GF is a better tank. CW also has more control... What, did you expect the GWF to be a god-class? Everything seems to be right here.
nothing is right here.... a 2-handed fighter must have a big burst! and here i see toooooo low damage for him... GWF need a boost in evry single attak to kill all other classes like rogue and Cmage i have a good spec based on damage and reach most of the time 2-3
You can build a GWF that has huge single target damage and can keep a target in a stunlock. Look at chainer88's build in my signature. You can even watch him in action.
You can build a GWF that has huge single target damage and can keep a target in a stunlock. Look at chainer88's build in my signature. You can even watch him in action.
so this is dum.. cause this is FFS BIG A$$ TWO HANDED SWORD ... come to real life and lets test this against Trickster Rogue ... swing hit ... wet stain thats all it become frome Rogue... i work in the Museum so i seen and know what is TWO HANDED SWORD ... there are tells that Knights was able to beheaded 3 targets in one swing ...
so in my opinion GWF is now sooo broken that Ned Stark head is got a headache ... u have to divide ur feast point in the way that is just stupid .. or u are done and there is one sens to enter pvp ... maybe to stand and wave ..
Balanced classes in my understanding is when u got a equal chance to kill no matter what is ur feats path and no matter what is your opponent ..
Balanced classes in my understanding is when u got a equal chance to kill no matter what is ur feats path and no matter what is your opponent ..
Go play a shooter then, because no MMORPG offers that kind of Utopian class balance. This is not an e-sport, it's unrated PvP in a MMORPG. Above all, the PvP mode here is 5v5 Domination, so it is team vs. team and 1v1 does not matter.
You have two choices:
- You can adapt to the situation, learn how to improve within the boundaries of the game's rules and present state, watch videos, ask questions on how to improve your performance, and start to enjoy the game.
... or ...
- You can engage in wishful thinking and lament the state of things, get frustrated that you cannot use your PvE feats and PvE abilities to one-hit people only because your pixel sword is bigger than someone's pixel dagger, and go on and on about how life and the game aren't fair, and remain unhappy.
I know which option I would go for. (Actually I'd probably stop playing PvP, walk away from it and focus on other aspects of the game if PvP agitated me to a point where I get annoyed or angry.)
As a GWF at 60.. no other class gives me too much trouble 1v1. You just gotta play them right. By the by, I love saying "**** you" to a rogue's face when their testicles reside in their smoke bomb.
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orangerascalMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited May 2013
All I hear most GWF say is:
I want to have the durability of a tank and the dps of a striker ... while doing AOE.
For obvious reasons this won't happen. Please learn the strengths of your class by watching your peers. Quite a few have streams that show how to play the class well.
the truth is... there are just 2 godlike classes in pvp, and they are TR and CW.
If you're using them against bads. Rogues don't stand a chance against a GFW if he knows anything about his class, and a GFW will keep a CW running for an hour while the team derps him
For what i observed here in PVP balance kill it goes like this:
DEVOTED CLERIC is weak to GREAT WEAPON FIGHTER & TRICKSTER ROGUE
GUARDIAN FIGHTER is weak to CONTROL WIZARD & DEVOTED CLERIC
CONTROL WIZARD is weak to TRICKSTER ROGUE & GREAT WEAPON FIGHTER
GREAT WEAPON FIGHTER is weak to GUARDIAN FIGHTER & TRICKSTER ROGUE
TRICKSTER ROGUE is weak to 2 player compose of 1 DPS player and 1 SUPPORT type player, what i've learned is wait for it invisibility to expire and they pretty much go down fast.
p.s. SO FOR THOSE WHO ARE COMPLAINING, ADAPT, ADAPT, ADAPT & DON'T STOP LEARNING HOW TO OUTSMART TRICKSTER ROGUE
Half-Elf Devoted Cleric-Divine Oracle Build, Powers and Feats:V1.0, V2.0
You don't have to outsmart rogues, 99% of them rely on smoke bomb. Also, GWF is weak against GF an Clerics. Not rogues. If we don't mop up the cleric in a single rotation then we won't win the fight solo. However it will take a few minutes for the cleric to win
You can build a GWF that has huge single target damage and can keep a target in a stunlock. Look at chainer88's build in my signature. You can even watch him in action.
This guy is right, I fight Chainer 1 versus 1 when he is not hugging his healer and I own his *** 9 times out of 10. Anyone can spray paint a <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> gold byt in the end it still stinks and isn't wort a penny.
GWF is a **** class in compatison to the others.
I may not be considered by most the BEST PVP Warlock on the server but, I am the most HATED amongst them.
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Yeah, TR has more DPS than GWF and GF is a better tank. CW also has more control... What, did you expect the GWF to be a god-class? Everything seems to be right here.
so this is dum.. cause this is FFS BIG A$$ TWO HANDED SWORD ... come to real life and lets test this against Trickster Rogue ... swing hit ... wet stain thats all it become frome Rogue... i work in the Museum so i seen and know what is TWO HANDED SWORD ... there are tells that Knights was able to beheaded 3 targets in one swing ...
so in my opinion GWF is now sooo broken that Ned Stark head is got a headache ... u have to divide ur feast point in the way that is just stupid .. or u are done and there is one sens to enter pvp ... maybe to stand and wave ..
Balanced classes in my understanding is when u got a equal chance to kill no matter what is ur feats path and no matter what is your opponent ..
Go play a shooter then, because no MMORPG offers that kind of Utopian class balance. This is not an e-sport, it's unrated PvP in a MMORPG. Above all, the PvP mode here is 5v5 Domination, so it is team vs. team and 1v1 does not matter.
You have two choices:
- You can adapt to the situation, learn how to improve within the boundaries of the game's rules and present state, watch videos, ask questions on how to improve your performance, and start to enjoy the game.
... or ...
- You can engage in wishful thinking and lament the state of things, get frustrated that you cannot use your PvE feats and PvE abilities to one-hit people only because your pixel sword is bigger than someone's pixel dagger, and go on and on about how life and the game aren't fair, and remain unhappy.
I know which option I would go for. (Actually I'd probably stop playing PvP, walk away from it and focus on other aspects of the game if PvP agitated me to a point where I get annoyed or angry.)
I want to have the durability of a tank and the dps of a striker ... while doing AOE.
For obvious reasons this won't happen. Please learn the strengths of your class by watching your peers. Quite a few have streams that show how to play the class well.
You're welcome to roll them. Post videos of how you kill everyone while you're at it.
If you're using them against bads. Rogues don't stand a chance against a GFW if he knows anything about his class, and a GFW will keep a CW running for an hour while the team derps him
DEVOTED CLERIC is weak to GREAT WEAPON FIGHTER & TRICKSTER ROGUE
GUARDIAN FIGHTER is weak to CONTROL WIZARD & DEVOTED CLERIC
CONTROL WIZARD is weak to TRICKSTER ROGUE & GREAT WEAPON FIGHTER
GREAT WEAPON FIGHTER is weak to GUARDIAN FIGHTER & TRICKSTER ROGUE
TRICKSTER ROGUE is weak to 2 player compose of 1 DPS player and 1 SUPPORT type player, what i've learned is wait for it invisibility to expire and they pretty much go down fast.
p.s. SO FOR THOSE WHO ARE COMPLAINING, ADAPT, ADAPT, ADAPT & DON'T STOP LEARNING HOW TO OUTSMART TRICKSTER ROGUE
This guy is right, I fight Chainer 1 versus 1 when he is not hugging his healer and I own his *** 9 times out of 10. Anyone can spray paint a <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> gold byt in the end it still stinks and isn't wort a penny.
GWF is a **** class in compatison to the others.
-Kymos