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touketsukazetouketsukaze Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 0 Arc User
edited May 2013 in General Discussion (PC)
Hello all! So I've been wandering the forums concerning new classes (mostly Warlock) and all the word I have been able to find is that they are supposed to come 'at launch' or shortly thereafter. Has anyone heard any further word on this, and when is the 'official launch' estimated to be? I am really looking forward to laying down some infernal wrath in Neverwinter.
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  • jedizalmjedizalm Member Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I have sen people(not cryptic) post that a new class and the drow are supposed to be available about 60 days after OB hits...at least thats what I think they said. That means about 2 months from now.
  • terradraconisterradraconis Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Well since "official Launch" may not be for up to a year we have no idea what it will bring.

    That said they will be releasing new classes and races in the next couple of months and probably fairly regularly for a bit after that.

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  • jedizalmjedizalm Member Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Well since "official Launch" may not be for up to a year we have no idea what it will bring.

    That said they will be releasing new classes and races in the next couple of months and probably fairly regularly for a bit after that.

    First up is either Warlock or Ranger. Then the opposite will be released. Too bad the ranger is the melee kind, not the...ranged kind. After that, its up in the air as to what the new classes are going to be.
  • demetrius94demetrius94 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    jedizalm wrote: »
    First up is either Warlock or Ranger. Then the opposite will be released. Too bad the ranger is the melee kind, not the...ranged kind. After that, its up in the air as to what the new classes are going to be.

    Any confirmation on that? Because 50% of the people who've posted something about the Ranger class say it's melee and the other 50% say it's Archer Ranger. I guess it doesn't really matter because we'll see eventually and right now it's all speculation because Cryptic hasn't officially announced anything.
    The real question is when will they officially announce the release date for the Ranger? Playing PvP with a Rogue gets boring pretty fast.
  • riven84riven84 Member, Banned Users Posts: 574 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    Any confirmation on that? Because 50% of the people who've posted something about the Ranger class say it's melee and the other 50% say it's Archer Ranger. I guess it doesn't really matter because we'll see eventually and right now it's all speculation because Cryptic hasn't officially announced anything.
    The real question is when will they officially announce the release date for the Ranger? Playing PvP with a Rogue gets boring pretty fast.

    No, no confirmation. jedizalm thinks he knows what he's talking about, but he never does.
  • jedizalmjedizalm Member Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Any confirmation on that? Because 50% of the people who've posted something about the Ranger class say it's melee and the other 50% say it's Archer Ranger. I guess it doesn't really matter because we'll see eventually and right now it's all speculation because Cryptic hasn't officially announced anything.
    The real question is when will they officially announce the release date for the Ranger? Playing PvP with a Rogue gets boring pretty fast.

    Sorry, no actual confirmation, but I havent seen anyone posting with certainty in their post that it will be ranged. Most ranged posters are speculatory at best, while everyone who says melee seems pretty certain. Then again, sometimes its hard to judge posts based on feelings alone, but when melee posters say things like 'going to be' and 'most likely' while ranged posters put things like 'hopefully' and 'it would be cool' things sort of fall into place.

    But everything I said is pure speculation, and only Crytpic and PWE knows.
    riven84 wrote: »
    No, no confirmation. jedizalm thinks he knows what he's talking about, but he never does.

    I guess if you would have waited 60 seconds to see my post, you wouldnt have wasted your snide remarks in this post. But then again, you never seem short on that front, so yeah.
  • terradraconisterradraconis Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Any confirmation on that? Because 50% of the people who've posted something about the Ranger class say it's melee and the other 50% say it's Archer Ranger. I guess it doesn't really matter because we'll see eventually and right now it's all speculation because Cryptic hasn't officially announced anything.
    The real question is when will they officially announce the release date for the Ranger? Playing PvP with a Rogue gets boring pretty fast.

    Some people have used various tools to look through the data files of the game and seen data for those two classes in the data files. There was a link to a forest scene and a riddle up earlier in the week but I'm not seeing it now. Anyway that also added to the speculation about the ranger being first up.

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  • demetrius94demetrius94 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    jedizalm wrote: »
    Sorry, no actual confirmation, but I havent seen anyone posting with certainty in their post that it will be ranged. Most ranged posters are speculatory at best, while everyone who says melee seems pretty certain. Then again, sometimes its hard to judge posts based on feelings alone, but when melee posters say things like 'going to be' and 'most likely' while ranged posters put things like 'hopefully' and 'it would be cool' things sort of fall into place.

    But everything I said is pure speculation, and only Crytpic and PWE knows.

    Yeah I guess without confirmation from Cryptic we're pretty much shooting in the dark...still, it doesn't make any sense to release yet another melee class when the game already has 3. One of which is already dual wielding.
    Furthermore there are Ranger NPCs in the game and they're wielding bows. And there are ranged enemies who use bows so that's in place as well. It just doesn't make any sense to me for the Ranger to be melee only on release.

    Oh well, like I previously posted there's not much point in speculating. At least the Warlock is pretty much confirmed as there was an image leak I believe showing some gear that is usable by the class. So Warlock fans can rejoice.
  • jedizalmjedizalm Member Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Yeah I guess without confirmation from Cryptic we're pretty much shooting in the dark...still, it doesn't make any sense to release yet another melee class when the game already has 3. One of which is already dual wielding.
    Furthermore there are Ranger NPCs in the game and they're wielding bows. And there are ranged enemies who use bows so that's in place as well. It just doesn't make any sense to me for the Ranger to be melee only on release.

    Oh well, like I previously posted there's not much point in speculating. At least the Warlock is pretty much confirmed as there was an image leak I believe showing some gear that is usable by the class. So Warlock fans can rejoice.

    Even worse is if they release another melee, its totally upsetting the balance of the game, we have 3 melee classes and 2 ranged, and one of the ranged is a healer anyway. And all the speculation of the ranged char seems legti to me and alot of other people as well.

    And the warlock had a huge issue at some point...they actually started dropping some warlock gear for a short amount of time and had to emergency patch it, so warlocks are 100% confirmed, though their combat style and skills/feats are still in the dark. At least the dropped items is what I heard on the forums. Never found any myself, so again, conjecture on my part to a degree.
  • draezendirehanddraezendirehand Member Posts: 93
    edited May 2013
    Yeah I guess without confirmation from Cryptic we're pretty much shooting in the dark...still, it doesn't make any sense to release yet another melee class when the game already has 3. One of which is already dual wielding.

    I wouldn't call the Rogue a true dual wield class. They do use two daggers but the only attack abilities that utilize them both is the at wills, all the encounters and dailies focus on one hit more or less. To me a true dual wield class would use multi strike abilities throughout. Otherwise I agree it would make more sense to put out a Bow wielding ranger though I hope its melee based.
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  • jedizalmjedizalm Member Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    It is in the way you're doing it dude. Telling someone they're wrong is alright, but you're doing it in such an *******-ish way over a very minor thing. Stop being so petty bro.

    Thank you. At least amongst the trash attack from the peanut gallery, I AM participating in the thread conversations. I dont need to validate my posts by attacking someone elses. I mean, I dont mind her attacking me, as if she keeps it up, eventually a mod will be along and witness the berated attacks on me while having a perfectly normal conversation and more than likely giver her a verbal warning, if not ban her. The only poroblem is they will more than likely close the thread as well, and that always sucks.

    But on the note of the new classes, I'm hoping for the ranged ranger, as range is in the ranger name it just seems like the ranger should be ranged. Range.

    But if the warlock is ranged DPS styled gameplay, I wouldn't mind TOO much for another melee champ. This one using swords instead of daggers. And one, as said earlier
    They do use two daggers but the only attack abilities that utilize them both is the at wills, all the encounters and dailies focus on one hit more or less. To me a true dual wield class would use multi strike abilities throughout.
    like this would be nice. Multi hit attackers that use quick blinding attacks are fun, and the rogue seems to be part speed, part instant burst dmg.
  • demetrius94demetrius94 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    jedizalm wrote: »
    But on the note of the new classes, I'm hoping for the ranged ranger, as range is in the ranger name it just seems like the ranger should be ranged. Range.

    But if the warlock is ranged DPS styled gameplay, I wouldn't mind TOO much for another melee champ. This one using swords instead of daggers. And one, as said earlier like this would be nice. Multi hit attackers that use quick blinding attacks are fun, and the rogue seems to be part speed, part instant burst dmg.

    The thing is, and a lot of people forget this (myself included). The game will feature multiple Paragon paths for each class. An initial ranged only Paragon path for the Ranger class would be great. Then they can add a melee focused Paragon path later on and everyone is happy. I finally get to use a bow and the Drizzt fans get their dual wielding Ranger.
    Hopefully this is the way it'll turn out.
  • jedizalmjedizalm Member Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    The thing is, and a lot of people forget this (myself included). The game will feature multiple Paragon paths for each class. An initial ranged only Paragon path for the Ranger class would be great. Then they can add a melee focused Paragon path later on and everyone is happy. I finally get to use a bow and the Drizzt fans get their dual wielding Ranger.
    Hopefully this is the way it'll turn out.

    That is an idea I can get behind. I know more paragon paths are out there, they just havent been implemented yet. But I'd rather have the new classes first over the new paragon paths. I would love me some arrow rain.
  • riven84riven84 Member, Banned Users Posts: 574 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    jedizalm wrote: »
    I'm hoping for the ranged ranger, as range is in the ranger name it just seems like the ranger should be ranged. Range.

    LOL

    That's not what 'ranger' means. Range, here, comes from 'to range', to travel. Rangers are historically protectors of the wilderness; they are skilled in traversing wilderness. Typically, they would use small, light weapons for utility, and ranged weapons, typically bows, for hunting prey.

    Hence why there's the Archer Ranger and Two blade Ranger in D&D 4e (which this game is based off of).

    Just to make it super-duper clear: if 'ranger' implied archery, the class name 'Archer Ranger' wouldn't make any sense.
  • jedizalmjedizalm Member Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    riven84 wrote: »
    LOL

    That's not what 'ranger' means. Range, here, comes from 'to range', to travel. Rangers are historically protectors of the wilderness; they are skilled in traversing wilderness. Typically, they would use small, light weapons for utility, and ranged weapons, typically bows, for hunting prey.

    Hence why there's the Archer Ranger and Two blade Ranger in D&D 4e (which this games is based off of).

    Just to make it super-duper clear: if 'ranger' implied archery, the class name 'Archer Ranger' wouldn't make any sense.

    At least your not attacking my posts anymore....kinda.

    And that was me being facetious. =P
  • lokaidraxmartislokaidraxmartis Member Posts: 12 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    The thing is, and a lot of people forget this (myself included). The game will feature multiple Paragon paths for each class. An initial ranged only Paragon path for the Ranger class would be great. Then they can add a melee focused Paragon path later on and everyone is happy. I finally get to use a bow and the Drizzt fans get their dual wielding Ranger.
    Hopefully this is the way it'll turn out.

    Have to look how each class is designed... paragon paths wont focus like that, i figure will release 2 rangers at some point. One melee, one ranged why? because i 4e book are these packages, that describe each build and suggestions and that seems to be what the classes are following.

    Build Option Fighter: Great weapon fighter, Gaurdian Fighter
    Wizard: Control Wizard, War Wizard
    Ranger: Two-weapon, archer

    Basically gonna follow this sort of design using build option as the classes in question, and paragon paths as sort of branching power trees for some variation and variety.
  • jedizalmjedizalm Member Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    riven84 wrote: »
    Dude, if you want to stop fighting, stop saying stupid ****. Seriously, you're just asking for it.

    You decide to take part of my post, that was clearly sarcastic, and point out that it was wrong, and you say I'M the one picking fights?
    Have to look how each class is designed... paragon paths wont focus like that, i figure will release 2 rangers at some point. One melee, one ranged why? because i 4e book are these packages, that describe each build and suggestions and that seems to be what the classes are following.

    Build Option Fighter: Great weapon fighter, Gaurdian Fighter
    Wizard: Control Wizard, War Wizard
    Ranger: Two-weapon, archer

    Basically gonna follow this sort of design using build option as the classes in question, and paragon paths as sort of branching power trees for some variation and variety.

    He has a point with this ideal. Fighters are a base class, singular in its overall performance, yet they split it into two classes here. Wizard is kinda specifically being used as one of the builds....they might only give us one type of Ranger. Archer or Dual. Seeing as this is Forgotten Realsm, and Drizzt has so much influence here, its more than likely going to be dual, but again, who knows.
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