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someoneod
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Title. The current direction the game is going implies multiple progressive tiers like any other mmo. Assuming you want to progress (and things get harder), it might be suggested that you get top tier enchantments. A normal tier (one tier above less) costs 280k AD to remove. I believe a rank 7 enchantment is similar in price. Rank 8/9/10 (if they exist) would be even more. A greater enhancement will be even more as well. The cost of producing these things might not be so bad, except that the fusion % chance is under 50%. At some points it is 1% (if you are using the rarer enhancements or armor enchants). That means that we must either buy an item using zen, plus the previous reagents, buy that item from the AH at whatever the current cost is, or pray to the RNG gods that we get one from the 7 day daily reward.
It would not be so bad if the 7 day reward guaranteed a blue, however that is a rarity in of itself. We are looking at upwards of 10 removals, per set of gear, which is upwards of 2 million AD, per set, plus the cost of fusing them initial, plus the cost the materials to get to that tier (which is by no means cheap, generally).
I have staunchly defended this game until this point, however, now it seems that if you want to have any AD at all you need to stick to rank 5/6 armor enchants, and lesser armor/weapon enchants. A visible paywall is never a good thing, and this one is glaringly obvious. It won't be seen until t3 gets put out. Then we find people who have spent millions getting best in slot enchants, greater enhancements, etc, who will suddenly find they cannot use any of their socketables unless they shell out yet millions more, and will need to do so for every set of gear. Every tier that gets released in such a manner will cause some of the hardcores to leave, and when you drive away the 'hardcore' group, you drive away your most secure market.
It would not be so bad if the 7 day reward guaranteed a blue, however that is a rarity in of itself. We are looking at upwards of 10 removals, per set of gear, which is upwards of 2 million AD, per set, plus the cost of fusing them initial, plus the cost the materials to get to that tier (which is by no means cheap, generally).
I have staunchly defended this game until this point, however, now it seems that if you want to have any AD at all you need to stick to rank 5/6 armor enchants, and lesser armor/weapon enchants. A visible paywall is never a good thing, and this one is glaringly obvious. It won't be seen until t3 gets put out. Then we find people who have spent millions getting best in slot enchants, greater enhancements, etc, who will suddenly find they cannot use any of their socketables unless they shell out yet millions more, and will need to do so for every set of gear. Every tier that gets released in such a manner will cause some of the hardcores to leave, and when you drive away the 'hardcore' group, you drive away your most secure market.
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well said
But the absurd costs that have to do with enchantments in this game is clearly p2w, as that kind of AD isn't something you can reasonably just farm up- it'd take you months.
The costs incurred for upgrading your gear in this game and staying upgraded are simply astronomical.
yes. for me it would cost around 150€ +- a month to stay maxed(just quick calc on current price's considering a few tweaks and changes to gear continually+ resets of feats+skill depending on testing a new setup or so a month or testing out changes that might come )..... personally i dont have that kinda cash to throw away
price is simply too high for me to be able to do it and its really sucking all the joy out of the game for me.. i dont mind spending 15$ a month on an mmo, or even spending 200€ as a start up to get something really unique... however spending 100 or 150€ is completely out of wack for me to spend each month on one mmo
i dont mind mechanics which doesnt have anything to do with the actual numbers.. appearence and other customizations in here should be paid to keep the game going.
reset skills/feats, and direct PTW shouldn't be there becouse it directly hurts the numbers and thereby its something that you cant really get around if you wanna do well in the game regardless of how you feel about the char look
I already have... in a way.... I now play for kicks.... till something better comes along.... since I know I will not be able to compete or be able to solo higher up without dieing a lot... not to mention I refuse to pay for a game with so MANY bugs atm... and can't stay connected any where between 10-15 mins.... ah well .... ZEN cost a lot, and gives you HAMSTER in return for its value...
so the question is, who at PWE thought that an item that drops like candy during Halloween is worth 2KAD?
how many people here has bought a r1 for 2KAD? how about the r2, at whatever higher price? it's like the ID scrolls, 15 AD for a minior ID Scroll that IDs things that when IDed only sell for 1G at most?... and ID scrolls ALSO drop like candy? who ever thought it was worth 15AD?the 2KAD is far greater a price hike.
simply put only way that the prices to remove them from socket are worth the price they set is for them to stop dropping the darn things as low loot drops. they are simply not "rare enough" to be that price.
well Cyres? it was probably a mixup in the office, they ment to have them as 2K copper, and xcopper for removeing them, but someone acidentaly fell on the keyboard and hit the A and D keys.
oh GREAT JUST GREAT, I've reached the level of mad where I start talking to myself. *storms away from the keyboard*
Don't worry, I'm still here! Not quite all by yourself.
If the enchantment rune was THAT important - you'd pay the AD. If the rune is THAT important, save it for better gear. Otherwise, if all you're looking to do is place a better rune into the same gear - then just do it and destroy the old rune.
The oxymoronic arguments posted in these forums so often is the best entertainment I've had in a long time. Please: do not stop!
Why should PW care what the value of Zen is per AD? Any Zen spent is a Zen that someone had to buy. They get the same cash out of a given Zen whether it was traded for 500 AD or 50.
The issue becomes when it requires wards to get to that level of enchantment. If you could fuse enchants with 100% success, none of this would be an issue. It becomes an issue when it is a 1% success rate, or 10/20% success rate.
I really like this game. I want to play it for a long time. But this is a serious cost grind just to play around with your gear, which is a huge negative for me.