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@PWE/Cryptic - Quitting until GWF gets fixed.
undeadranqe
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It's no secret that the GWF as of now, is for better words, complete trash. There have been countless threads, and posts on the subject of this class, but not one post from PWE. Even if they was to say there aware and are addressing the problem, I wouldn't be making this thread right now. But at the same time I understand it's barely a week of open beta, so these things happen. But until this class gets fixed, I ain't playing because this is the class I want to play. But right now, it's like playing this game on suicide difficulty with them.
Now first of all, I love the game, it has a very nice feel to it, and the towns look great and very alive, but the GWF is simply the most useless class in-game. People say it gets better at max level, no. They get better abilities and scale better, but there still below on-par with everyone else. Right now even a cleric has more dps than us. A wizard, can drop his orb, and posses the power of the pot noodle, and do more damage than this class. The Great Warrior Fighter can't fight things one by one, because it takes far too long because of the low damage, and sure we can round up a few and blast all our AoE, but apparently are 'Heavy Armor' don't do much, because your spamming potions like mad.
I level'd a rogue all the way up to level 14 without using 1 potion. With a GWF, your using like 5 potions per dungeon. Why do you think there are so many rogues, because half of them would play the GWF, but can't. Great Warriors are supposed to be the simple, high damage high defense, no non-sense of magic class, but right now they just charge in drink 20 potions while hitting there zero damage.
And another thing, when your out of combat and your sword is resting on your back, it don't sit properly on the 'Slim' model of humans, it goes through half your body and looks stupid. I have tried creating countless characters all with different scales (All Slim model), but no matter what I do the sword don't sit properly on your back. It only does if your character is Toned Default or Heavy. But I don't want to be a moving meatball. How am I supposed to look good, when it looks like my character is bugged 24/7.
For example;
^ This is what I will be forced to stare at the entire time playing a GWF.
How it's supposed to look;
So with all these problems, I just feel as if this class was half-assed, and with that in mind, why should I spend my time playing, sure, this great game, but with a broken class. Until this gets fixed I'm playing elsewhere.
Now first of all, I love the game, it has a very nice feel to it, and the towns look great and very alive, but the GWF is simply the most useless class in-game. People say it gets better at max level, no. They get better abilities and scale better, but there still below on-par with everyone else. Right now even a cleric has more dps than us. A wizard, can drop his orb, and posses the power of the pot noodle, and do more damage than this class. The Great Warrior Fighter can't fight things one by one, because it takes far too long because of the low damage, and sure we can round up a few and blast all our AoE, but apparently are 'Heavy Armor' don't do much, because your spamming potions like mad.
I level'd a rogue all the way up to level 14 without using 1 potion. With a GWF, your using like 5 potions per dungeon. Why do you think there are so many rogues, because half of them would play the GWF, but can't. Great Warriors are supposed to be the simple, high damage high defense, no non-sense of magic class, but right now they just charge in drink 20 potions while hitting there zero damage.
And another thing, when your out of combat and your sword is resting on your back, it don't sit properly on the 'Slim' model of humans, it goes through half your body and looks stupid. I have tried creating countless characters all with different scales (All Slim model), but no matter what I do the sword don't sit properly on your back. It only does if your character is Toned Default or Heavy. But I don't want to be a moving meatball. How am I supposed to look good, when it looks like my character is bugged 24/7.
For example;
^ This is what I will be forced to stare at the entire time playing a GWF.
How it's supposed to look;
So with all these problems, I just feel as if this class was half-assed, and with that in mind, why should I spend my time playing, sure, this great game, but with a broken class. Until this gets fixed I'm playing elsewhere.
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From what I've heard, countless times, the GWF just has a bit of a rough start. Gets much, much better after 30-40.
100% nonsense, in PvE anyway.
Well, your single-target point is void, as, as you say, this isn't what the GWF is for. TR says hi. As for pot spamming, perhaps so, but that doesn't make you useless.
Pulling 'facts' out of your behind doesn't make it true. In fact, it weakens your point (if you had one to begin with). Leave this kind of sentiment out of your posts if you want people to take you (more) seriously.
This is patently untrue, even when seeing through the obvious exaggeration.
Clipping issues are a problem in pretty much all games. Just saying.
Bye!
You might not like it but what we shine at is aoe damage not single target, we will never be rogues or have their damage and i say who cares i play gwf because its FUN to play not cause its easy mode.... Not to be a dbag but sounds like a l2p issue and with that said i say farewell and good luck in your travels.
No, the only reason people think they get much better is because there so garbage early.
What a useless post. I don't expect to do more single target dps than rogue, but when cleric and noodles do more single target dps, there is a problem.
I don't know what makes you think it's so hard to believe. I only had to start using potions on Rogue when I got to the area, with all the orcs.
No.
Explain to me why a cleric can do more dps than us low level then we will talk again. I want to play this game for fun and see new areas, not try rush through everything to get max level, don't all of a sudden mean it's ok for GWF to be so bad at low levels.
The idea that people should tolerate a class being underpowered for the first half of the leveling curve went out with EQ.
As for potions, do you have a cleric companion? If so you should be rarely using any, I don't always have it out and I still am running around with a stack of 100+ pots w/o ever buying any.
I go in dungeon.
See 3 enemies
Charge right click, followed by Q and few auto's and that normally kills them. Then when it comes to the Bigger guys and hexers, Even if I dodge all there big attacks, I am still forced to go melee range, using all my skills it takes too long to kill them I take damage and have to pot up. With rogue it's not too bad they have dazing strike gwf take damage and deal damage. How are you guys not using pots?
The ones that do aoes or big strikes just knock them down or knock them back and the charge attack is terrible get rid of it soon as you can.
If you're really intereseted in playing the class as it is now, that would be the best place to start.
Nepht and Dr Deflecto on primus
You can increase the damage of all your allies by at least 150%.
You can't say ANYTHING about a class until you get to the higher levels. GWF are a huge asset to have.
And clipping issues? GW2 had them! Do you think a F2P game wouldn't?
Thanks, I'll look at these before I decide to quit this class. At least theres one person on these forums that isn't a complete HAMSTER :P
My GWF is now 42 and she's a freakin' powerhouse
This is how I picture my class after level 40
I don't care if GW2 might have 'had' them, they don't anyway. And if little things like this can't be fixed but they want people to buy Hero of the North pack with a $700 value (lmao where did they even get this value estimate from?), then that to me, shows they don't want to put effort, and nor will I. But I'm getting too ahead of myself, because I do enjoy this game.
There is a difference between being entitled and not getting what you pay for. If the investor (US) feels the product isnt what they thought it would be you see people pull their money out. It is simple business stuff when it comes to what your talking about, a business like this one will do what it takes to keep its investors. How quick will they change I dont know but it will or it will fail and lose out money they could have had if they had only pleased their investors, you talk with your money not with your posting.
Maybe you still get hit because it's not a dodge, it's a sprint... it's not meant to be a dodge at all, unless you sprint away.
GW2 HAS clipping issues, my little ranger's weapons were always clipping into the armor. My warrior's LS was usually clipping in and out of her back... unless a game places items far off of the character models, you'll have this type of thing happening. I'd rather it clip than sit a foot off my character.
As far as the monetary issue, calculate the cost of buying a premium mount like the spider, the cost to buy that many diamonds, items and character slots... with the ridiculously overpriced cash shop they have, I can easily see where they came up with the $700 figure.
My GWF is starting to transform before my very eyes and things are slowly but surely becoming much easier. The first big change was after I received a companion which made my burning through potions almost non existant. Now Damage is steadily ranking up and things are starting to die a lot quicker.
If like people say once you hit 40 it REALLY takes off... I can't wait. I'll lifetime domination for early domination any day of the week.
I love GWF . And if you would of rolled half-orc most your problems wouldn't of happened .
You have to MOVE as a GWF .
At 36ish you can spec them to do more single target damage , I didn't but a guildy did . So it is an option for people that want a more traditional fighter . BUT the strength of GWF is its ability to handle crowds, and you lose this if you spec for single target .
We thrive in the ' holy HAMSTER its a triple spawn ' moment when the other classes die . More mobs in a swipe = way more damage .
In tier 2 epic dungeons I score in the top 3 with both GWF and Rogue. Typically higher with GWF because tier 2 epics have WAY more adds.
Also the OP is just a trash player who refuses to consider that THEY are the ones doing something wrong. I will agree, other classes make it much easier to top the damage charts and level up with more facerolling on the keyboard. But by no means is the GWF not able to perform just as well as the other classes, it just REQUIRES a good player to make it perform.
Also, I got my GWF to 60 with just the wizard companion, no healer companion. If you spec right and play smart you will steamroll the leveling content.
Sprint is better used as an animation cancelling tool to reposition to maximize DPS. Once you learn to use it that way its very useful. Its not a damage avoidance tool in the same way rogue dodge roll is.
Punishing charge is the ability GWF get to be mobile and avoid damage. Its a fantastic tool in epic dungeons for avoiding damage and sticking where the DPS is needed.
Because that's what D & D Clerics do...
As far as GWF, personally it's the only class I have enjoyed. Sure my single target damage is meh, but nothing is as satisfying as sprinting into a group of mobs, and mowing them down in a heart beat. Only class I have played that requires as much positioning to really work well. I expect it to just get better from where I am now, (level 25). Two Big Thumbs Up from me!