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gbutler85
Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 7 Arc User
pvp *BALANCE* hope to see it soon and some type of diminishing returns CW and Rogues make the game not fun
other then that loving the game
other then that loving the game
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Dazing strike doesn't scale
As dar as the knock backs go, getting pushed away puts you out of the range of the cw cc. If you get stunned after that it would be cause like a rere you didn't try a sneaky strategy and ran toward the cw head on.
Try to use your immunity to cc skill sometimes or even your crippling shadow step attack and stop relying on smashing your face on the keyboard for your kills
yes skill does take part in a lot of the pvp but most of the abilities that the cw and rogue have just lock you up or destroy you in one hit and u really cant do **** about it. "this is a lower lvl perspective im not sure if stuff evens out but i watched a few streams and people are getting hit by rogues for 12-19 k dmg and by the look of it, it was about 60-80% of there hp so you cant say use skill with that, or cw locking some one up for 100% of there hp"
all and all in my opinion this game needs a bit of help in the balance department. Dont get me wrong im not looking for a i win button just a bit more equality. But the game is new and im hoping for the best.
I play a GWF and to me clerics are the most OP thing in the game in PvP, but I don't come onto the forums and complain because I know they just have a natural edge over my class. I literally eat rogues and control wizards alive, have even ground with GFs and my class, then struggle with cleric. But when I see a rogue on a cleric I watch him get destroyed due to the burst and daze, something I can't do. At the same time a rogue can't do that to me because I can use determination to counter the burst and CC and react with CC of my own. So in this scenario a cleric will find a rogue OP, but I won't.
Other than CW's blink working wonky with the lag (seeing dodge when it clearly hit) I haven't had a single issue with pvp.
I have one of every class at this point except GWF (didnt like bleach) The balance issue is that not all the skills scale correctly in pvp. Ive played TR and CW at lv60 PvP I understand how to lock down a target with a rouge its not hard but impossible if you try to do it head on.
Then you clearly dont utilize your stealth to its potential. If they see you coming yeah they will move if you want your targets to just stand there for you play pve. Stealthing around someone from the back gives you ample time to time your attack to a cw as he starts to do his casts (on which they cant blink or move) Try to play other classes and learn the mechanics of the game.
What lashing blade does like 2/3 of the cw health with an instant cast time. "strategies" like this work wonders
Pretty much this, I just got out of a match vs 3 CWs, rogue and guard. Absolute annihilation. Perma-stunned anytime I got within range.
If they were sticking together wouldn't that be your groups fault for not holding 2/3 of the nodes. If you were to apply pressure to other nodes they would have to split up
The greaters run about 700k AD and if you can afford 5 of them, you will smash everyone.
Reduced times in PvP mean nothing when you can be chained cc'd, hence diminishing returns needed.
This has been raised several times already.
WOAH HOLD ON YOU'RE NOT SUGGESTING P2W ARE YOU?????? You're about to get flamed by everyone and their grandmother for being correct.
Rogue nerfs have been raised several times as well as price changes to the Zen store. Doesn't mean it's happening.
I expect to see several classes adjusted, Rogue being one of them.
Pretty sure anyone with half a brain or knows how to fully utilize a Rogue, is expecting it too.
Definitely is P2W. Not only P2W, you have to pay a ton to have access to the win. Which I guess is fine, but I'm not spending any more money on the game or recommending it to anyone anymore.
They hid it so cleverly from the first 40 levels or so that I really thought this was going to be a fair game for awhile. The higher you get, the more you find out unfortunately.
That being said, there should be diminishing returns/immunities to CC (by source/type*) for a couple seconds.
* = meaning a Rogue ability that haze a daze/stun effect will have its own "lockout" versus an ability from a Control Wizard.
CWs and Rogues dominate the playing field with their chain CCs (mostly CWs).
Force Choke into Ray of Frost stuns alongside their blink ability and Daily AoE Knockback make them impossible to reach as a Guardian, even with the Knee Breaker slow (which is almost unnoticeable). In PvP you can block for a grand total of 3 seconds before your Guard meter runs out and it takes forever to refill.
Not to mention that blocking doesn't block damage from behind? Whereas blink or roll from CW and TRs will dodge any of your Q/E/R abilities from whatever direction you hit them from, even if your character hits them with it on screen. There's basically a 1/2 second window where they are invincible. Also, I forgot that blocking makes your character slower while their blink gives them improved mobility.
Meh only play one round for the daily so dont really give two ****s.
Cryptic wont and never will balance their PvP, check their other games and prove me wrong.
I am so addicted to the PVP in this game that I havent even bothered with any of the PVE content.
From lower level brackets in PVP I thought the classes that I play were quite weak but as I got to the higher brackets I have noticed that Its just because I havent aquired the better powers or feats.
I have one of each class except TR. And this also isnt sarcasm just incase you guys were wondering.