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Assassin vs. Trickster Rogue?

enderlin50enderlin50 Member Posts: 993 Arc User
edited April 2013 in The Thieves' Den
Whats the real difference between Assassin and Trickster Rogue in 4E? After looking through skills they both appear to essentially do samething. Both utilize shadow magic, and both utilize stealth. Is it possible for both of these to coexist in Neverwinter Online or too similar?
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  • heathenhammer9heathenhammer9 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 144 Bounty Hunter
    edited April 2013
    IMO the closest thing to Assassin we'll see in NWO is a rogue paragon path, Shadow Assassin. Prior to the Assassin class being released in a Dragon magazine, that was the only type of assassin available.

    Based on the classes they started with, and the ones that are rumored to be coming up, it sounds like they are going strictly by the Player Handbooks, so once they finish with the classes in PHB1, maybe we'll see some from 2 and 3.

    TL;DR, I'd love to see material added from the Dragon magazines, but realistically I'm thinking they'll go by the player handbooks.
  • gillrmngillrmn Member Posts: 7,800 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Assassin is a seperate class based on Shadow source.

    Trickster rogue is a recommended lvl 1 build for Rogue class which is based on martial power source.
  • llelowyn13llelowyn13 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I feel like I learned something today. Thanks, Heathen and Gilrimm.
    "A True Friend Stabs You in the Front."
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  • prunetracyprunetracy Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    The major difference is their power source. As a martial class, the Rogue's power comes from training and practice. The Assassin, however, traded a part of their soul to the Shadowfell in exchange for power. This is reflected in their powers, like the fact that the Assassin utilizes poisons.

    Ultimately, they can play similarly, but are different takes on the same idea. The Rogue class has more builds available to go in different directions, however.

    I think the Assassin is too similar to the rogue to be its own class in this game when there are so many other classes and play styles unrepresented to utilize first.
  • quorforgedquorforged Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Trickster Rogue and Assassin are a lot more distinct in 4E PnP. For example, Deft Strike in PnP is just a "move 10' and attack", not a teleport. Neverwinter adds a lot of shadow magic flavor to the Rogues abilities. Assassins in PnP get teleports and shadow magic, not Rogues.
  • enderlin50enderlin50 Member Posts: 993 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    quorforged wrote: »
    Trickster Rogue and Assassin are a lot more distinct in 4E PnP. For example, Deft Strike in PnP is just a "move 10' and attack", not a teleport. Neverwinter adds a lot of shadow magic flavor to the Rogues abilities. Assassins in PnP get teleports and shadow magic, not Rogues.

    So instead of ever adding Assassin they just make Trickster Rogue with a Assassin type Paragon Path
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  • senseijohnsenseijohn Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 90
    edited April 2013
    It's 4E... welcome to cookie cutter.
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