To slow/easily kited

selonw

In PvP a cleric/wizard can easily kite a rogue and theres nothing a rogue can do to catch up except one skill.

Rogues need more cc to keep enemies in place.

sneakycheeses

selonw wrote: »

In PvP a cleric/wizard can easily kite a rogue and theres nothing a rogue can do to catch up except one skill.

Rogues need more cc to keep enemies in place.

I'm level 7 and I already have a stun and a slow. How do they kite you?

manatank

sneakycheeses wrote: »

I'm level 7 and I already have a stun and a slow. How do they kite you?

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zgbam1988

well u use stealth then tele behind them then use stun and then fck em up real good

selonw

Its not a stunn, players can still move

zgbam1988

true its a daze effect but whenever i use it on creeps they just stand still,dunno how it works on pvp havent done that yet.But hey,you can always use cloud of steel when they run:P then stealth get close daze again they run u cloud of steel and so on lol.Will know for sure how that works once i pvp

selonw

Thats pretty much what your doing, although dailyskills doesnt do much damage in pvp, neither on gwf or trickster atleast.

also during that time, the cleric has healed up to max while you have everything on cooldown and tries to run after the cleric that is running at the same speed as you atleast the throwing daggers should slow and be usable while on the run.

teleport yes, but it doesnt stop them from keep on kiting. coupled with that they have very powerful cc to completly stop YOUR movement

zgbam1988

hmm,u got got point there,but later on u get Shadow Strike,Blitz,Impact Shot they are all range skills and try to combine stealth with lashing blade for 50% more dmg that skill alone can prolly reduce wizards hp almost 50% not to mention if u crit,then u have Courage Breaker slow ing their movement speed and att dramaticaly.ITs all how u play,1v1 you cant escape rouge and i think that tele works if ur rooted by cleric,and in 5v5 pvp its all about the stealth and w8 for others to reduce hp of an opponent cuz rouge is not a warrior u cant rush in first in battle

selonw

Thats kinda it, as a rogue you need to finish your enemy fast, but theres so much cc others have that you dont have that hinders you from doing that.

Problems with slow is that all skills in NW requires you to stand still so you already lost alot of ground when your trying to apply it.

trooperofdiscord

Still you have to consider that in most mmos low lvl pvp is rarely balanced since you dont have all your utility. At lvl 29 i was doing pretty much ok in pvp today!!

I think that its nice that for once the rogue class is not a faceroll!!!

heathenhammer9

/summarize thread

I can't faceroll my class and kill everything in 5 seconds, please fix.

papi032

Use impossible to catch with 2 stealth refillers = autoattack people to death. Replace a stealth refiller like bait n switch lets say because it's works only from stealth with smoke bomb.

selonw

It also feels like rogue damage doesnt scale to good. 20+ your heavy hitting skills barely dents another player

selonw

Another skill is the teleport behind enemy skill. Trying to use the skill in PvP to catch up to fleeing enemies, the animation makes you "fly" at the end and you end up landing way behind the enemy, and the kiting starts over again with you basicly doing no damage.

The skill should stun the enemy, or atleast snare.

With all the skills beeing stationary, kiting becomes a huge problem for rogues.

healhamsta

Wait till the CW blows it's cooldowns. (Especially when they attempts to force choke another player.)
Then surprise buttsecks -> Go back to the shadows.

Rinse and repeat for tons of kills & barely any deaths.