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kusig
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Been watching a lot of streams of the game and from what i've seen when you roll your ability stats there always only 2 sets of number to roll between, was wondering if this will be changed for release to make it more randomish or at least more rolls to cycle through?
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I can see how people would want complete freedom in deciding where to place your starting points, but this might also be put in place to help prevent unknowing or casual players from eventually gimping their characters on day 1.
It's not like you would really wanna put any points into Int or Wis if you're playing a Guardian.. right?
Are you saying that it's just TWO preset ability score options to choose from? It's just designed to make it look like real 3d6 rolls?
I hope they change this too, as it does not give the feeling of rolling or being in charge of how you stats are allocated.
I like rolls, but with ablitlity to adjust, be that all stats to just 1 stat.
To be clear, it regards what the ability score system is in detail, which is (from what we can see) 4th Edition Arrays, which is basically preset numbers allocated to your ability scores, and we guess that Cryptic took it further and decided to allocate them for us, as typically assumed to be best for our chosen class.
In the character creation there is a range of about two to four varied arrays which typically keep your primary score around a base of 17 or 18, and your secondaries are countered by either being around 10 to 14, lower if your primary is on the higher number, and also raises or lowers a single non-class ability score based on the same thing, roughly between 10 to 12, which racials modifying these numbers as well.
Every reroll you do is really just switching between one of those preset lists of numbers, so you could do two to four rolls and see the same two to four sets of numbers. It's not true rolling as you would see in PnP D&D (3d6x6), it simply switches between presets of arrays.
The general belief is we don't want this, and it isn't even remotely true to D&D...regardless of the fact that arrays exist in the rulebooks as an optional system (which in my entire life of D&D have never seen anyone use or like the use of, let alone use or like myself), and that point buy would be a better option (one that has proven to work and work reasonably enough in DDO, another MMO).
We don't expect it to change, but the majority seem to be hoping it does...because as it stands, the current arrays system is so generic we won't even remotely feel different from each other, and like most MMO players, and D&D players, we prefer to play our way and choose.
Yes. That's exactly what it is (except that I guess some have more than two).
It's really stupid design to make it look like its a roll. Obfuscation is bad in game design, always.
Although still less stupid than putting actual random stat rolling in an MMO, so they shouldn't do that either.
Actually, you might.
Unlike 4E (and to a slightly lesser extent 3.X), classes don't actually have "primary" stats (as anything other than words in the class description), that add to their attack rolls or whatever. In 4E, a low STR Fighter is simply gimped, because he is more likely to fail at the most important thing in combat, hitting with attacks, and it's essentially impossible to get anything else in return to counterbalance that loss. In 3.X, similar is true of a melee character's attack stat, and a caster's DC stat.
In Neverwinter, each ability score gives you specific, fairly small, bonuses. Intelligence makes your cooldowns shorter. Wisdom makes your control effects more likely to "stick", which Guardians do have. So either of those could conceivably be worth having on a Guardian Fighter, at the expense of Strength.
Ironically, while DDO has point buy, it could actually be switched over to arrays with little real loss, since only a few arrays of ability scores actually make sense for each class. Neverwinter, if switched to point-buy (or even just freely distributable arrays, as arrays actually work in 4E) would gain quite a bit of sorely needed customizability, with very little developer effort.
Though may be a true random roll but that cannot be rello (unless total bonus inferior to -1 or superior 11) as an optional. The roll should be kept one month and cannot be reroll (even on new charater creation, which mean it offers you this month random roll to all new character) to limit abuse. But this can only be an optionnal.
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