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I hope that Cryptic doesn't make cheaper Spider mounts...
garrettrogue
Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 71
Basically I am hoping that when I shell out 200 bucks that I don't see a cheaper replica Spider mount come out later. I want to be one of the original spider mount guys. 
It would be a slap in the face to those that donate I think.
It would be a slap in the face to those that donate I think.
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Agreed. This would disappoint me as well. I don't want to find out that 200 dollars was for stuff that I can later get for a total of 70 bucks.
I feel like this because otherwise this just promotes elitism and and a p2w attitude.
Neverwinter Thieves Guild
Rather they will probably add other armored spyders that look cooler or have different armor skins etc. Just go look at the FW cash mounts.
Neverwinter Thieves Guild
Give them their unarmored spiders... We pay premium for our armored ones!
"Armored Spider Mount Clones" as you comment? I'm fine with them. If they are different, even if it's just the textures, they are not the same to me. Certainly, it'd be quite cheap to do just a simple retexture and put it in the shop, but the Hero one would be still "Unique" and not accesible to those without the pack.
I've payed 189.99€ for the spider, the panther, the background, the clothing,... and to support Cryptic even if all the items of the hero pack end in the shop at any point in time.
In Raiderz, they sold the Black Arrod Mount specifically in their Founder's Pack only and said the Black Arrod Mount will NOT be sold ever in their shop and that they would stop selling the Founder's Pack once the Raiderz open beta began.
What ended up happening was, the Founders Pack sale continued for a short time after the open beta began and then PWE even said they'll continue to sell them for a long while.
This enraged the community because now there was basically nothing special about buying these "exclusive" Founder's Packs. Because of all the complaints, PWE finally decided to stop selling the Founder's Packs.
Shortly after the open beta launch, PWE introduces the WHITE Arrod mount, which looks pretty damn identical to the Black one, except it's white with blue flames.
And just last week, PWE introduced the RED Arrod mount. See the pattern here?
However, I would not particularly mind, especially if the cost was suitably high. I know how much I dislike missing out on things simply because I joined a game too late and the cool pre-launch items are no longer available. I do not think it makes sense from a business perspective or a customer relations perspective to deny people who want these items to be able to get them at a later date.
After all, how long do you think you will really care about the armoured spider mount? A week? A month? Maybe a year, at most! There will be other mounts, some probably cooler, so eventually I do not think most would mind the armoured spider mount being generally available.
Also, as you can tell, I bought a Hero of the North Founder's Pack, so it is not as though I am looking out for myself. I bought the pack for what it is, a way to support Cryptic and get some cool perks, not as a way to be able to stand out with exclusive gear.
Personally I bought the package for the instant access to the foundry. I have come to expect re-skins of existing models to show up in cash shops so that is not a big deal to me. And I fear I cannot personally understand why others are making a big deal out of it if they've played F2P w/Cash shop games before.
St. Augustinus
I agree and feel pretty much the same way (even in games where I make similar investments, such as CO, which I don't intend to make here). If you're really just "supporting" the game it shouldn't matter, plus its a risk early adopters take. I bought a $200 LTS in TSW and the game went B2P for just $30 or less a few months later. And its something that happens in other industries as well, where you can end up getting things like TVs and other electronics much cheaper if you buy them later down the line--even in the video game industry games often reduce their box prices after a while.
I also never really got this "exclusive" entitlement attitude some people have about what they buy in games, and especially about cosmetic things like special mounts, which might be necessary for certain character concepts. We shouldn't have to be expected to be there at launch and ditch ridiculous amounts of cash to get something we may need to realize a character concept, or be prevented from making them because we got in later in the game.
They advertised the items as "exclusive". I am just saying that I would expect it to stay that way and I think others would as well.
Was about to write something of the same thing.
This thread is funny. xD
It is simply idiotic to classify a custom mount as pay to win, but like Stormdragon said over a year ago, some folks will whine "P2W" no matter what. :rolleyes:
I bought it and I don't care. Whatever Cryptic can do to monetize the game so that they can continue to grow their team and pump out new content, I'm in favor for so long that it isn't p2w. If that means coming out with 101 variations of the Spider Mount, so be it.
The value in the pack for me is the priority log-in, the guaranteed beta access, the extra character slots, and the friend beta ticket. The rest is just nice to haves.
Ah yes... the old "slap in the face" line...
Frankly, I wouldn't care if they broke down some of the individual items from the $200 pack and sold them individually at 1/X of the package price where X is the number of items from the package being sold individually. So if they sell the spider mount and the panther individually, they would each cost $100. Of course, if someone were to buy both, they wouldn't get the other perks that come with the package. And after launch some of those perks such as beta access will be rendered moot.
I do not mind the sale of individual components that comprise these packages. Perhaps the art for these elements could be slightly changed so that they can be differentiated between the founder package and the individual element purchase. That way everyone can have a panther and a spider mount if they want it, but the only way to get the exact one founders get would be to have purchased the founders' package.
Maybe the spider has different markings. Maybe the panther has got different colored eyes. Something minor but noticable.
but I play one on the forums...
:P
Yup, I'm as jealous as I was when I consistently supported a cash shop Freeform option for silver (non-subscribers) players option in CO, despite being an LTS'er in the game and Freeform being widely considered by the majority of subscribers in the community an "exclusive" subscriber feature and the one redeeming feature of subscriptions in the game. And about as jealous as I was when they finally did offer such a feature in the cash shop for the ridiculous sum of $50* and I complained about the pricing in the forums despite not needing one being already an LTS'er.
I just don't consider this pack to be "worth" the $200, much less the $549 they claim its worth. Hence, I refuse to buy it despite having spent similar amounts or more in other games (including CO, which is also a game from Cryptic).
*for a single feature for a single newly created character when the typical cost of an entire game is usually just $10 above that and a $300 LTS (just 6 times that price) gives you 16 freeform slots and a host of other features, including potentially infinite Freeform slots, since subscribers get an free slot per each character they take to max level.
a quick glance shows a companion that will fight with you.
a masterwork weapon with enchantment.
a treaure box that delivers a unique weapon wiht enchantment.
Again not saying this is game breaking or play to win but lets not ignore it either.
I said I wanted to say something of the same thing. Of course mounts aren't P2W items unless they have some mechanic that one hits anyone who didn't buy the founders pack. xD
I am agreeing on the fact that the same people who don't like others complaining about the pack and claim to have brought it to support the game, are now complaining they don't want anyone else to have a mount somewhat similar to their own. When they release a recolor of the mounts, a lot of people will want it because they couldn't get it from packs. That will give the company more income to help "support" the game.
LOL so anyone who doesn't want to cough up the money and agree with everything you say are poor and jealous? Nice logic you have there.
Expect to see it in lock boxes from time to time.
And oddly I don't have a problem with that, as long as they aren't like SWTOR and you are practically guaranteed the uber mount if you buy a key, give a chance...but no more than a chance.
That would be Awesome HAHAHA