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Speculation on no beta wipes

barkynbarkyn Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
edited January 2013 in General Discussion (PC)
imo I think (at this time) they wont be wiping our beta toons...if the 20$ packs are reusable and can buy them many times over...they should have waited to release this pack after toons become permanent, imagine the people whos probably going to want to buy these packs each once per toon. and the money lost with angry players when they find out our toons will be wiped. if they are going to wipe toons they should specify...

moving along they are granting head start to (open beta)...usually its a head start for (launch) if they are head starting us in a beta this probably means that they want us to go ahead and start playing before launch itself. meaning open beta just turns into a launch without the wiping of characters before a company would start a head start for a games launch.


now this being said im usually for wiping toons before a launch, but now that they have already released a one time use pack per character (20$ pack) i see no reason the toons we put money in be the characters we get to keep.

the 60$ and 200$ are account unlocks...not the 20$...

lol I dunno im eating lunch...I think more while I eat lol
"Just because im short and stumpy doesnt mean im not fast and nimble. my thirst for treasure keeps me...shall we say...more athletic than most dwarves" Dakoldin Quiverbeard (Dwarven Ranger)
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  • syberghostsyberghost Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 2,474
    edited January 2013
    Early Access and Open Beta are not the same thing. The packs give us early access to beta, and Early Access, which isn't the same thing. It's basically early access to Open Beta, and a head start, that some games call Head Start, but Cryptic (and some other companies) call Early Access.

    I know that's clear as mud, but it's accurate.

    They will undoubtedly wipe after Open Beta. They will not wipe after Early Access.
  • barkynbarkyn Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    syberghost wrote: »
    Early Access and Open Beta are not the same thing. The packs give us early access to beta, and Early Access, which isn't the same thing. It's basically early access to Open Beta, and a head start, that some games call Head Start, but Cryptic (and some other companies) call Early Access.

    I know that's clear as mud, but it's accurate.

    They will undoubtedly wipe after Open Beta. They will not wipe after Early Access.

    then they should have waited to release the 20$ pack sense it is a 1 time use and not account unlocks like the other 2. I know the difference between early access and an open beta. also the 20$ pack doesnt give access to the beta...which is another reason they should have waited...what if someone had 4 characters and bought the 20$ pack for each of them durring weekend betas or the open beta. and BAM character wipe...there goes 80$ worth of 12 slot bags, amulets, ect...that was the point i was trying to make
    "Just because im short and stumpy doesnt mean im not fast and nimble. my thirst for treasure keeps me...shall we say...more athletic than most dwarves" Dakoldin Quiverbeard (Dwarven Ranger)
  • deathssickledeathssickle Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    syberghost wrote: »
    Early Access and Open Beta are not the same thing. The packs give us early access to beta, and Early Access, which isn't the same thing. It's basically early access to Open Beta, and a head start, that some games call Head Start, but Cryptic (and some other companies) call Early Access.

    I know that's clear as mud, but it's accurate.

    They will undoubtedly wipe after Open Beta. They will not wipe after Early Access.

    I thought yesterday they said it was early access to the game before release that is was not early access to open beta, and that they needed to clear things up.(by the way the media about this is insane, almost every site has a different thing in their article wrong)
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  • slambitslambit Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 282 Bounty Hunter
    edited January 2013
    what i think will happen is we can use our pack items in the beta and when they wipe everything before launch, i dont doubt they will do that, they will reset our packs so we get full amounts when they launch the game.

    But it is something that they need to make 100% clear, you make a good point in asking about it :)
  • zylaxxzylaxx Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 591 Bounty Hunter
    edited January 2013
    I have never played a Triple-A MMO that didn't do character wipes at the end of beta. Now if Cryptic decides to do an Open Beta, which I think is likely then theres a small chance they won't wipe those characters but theres almost no chance they will aloow us to keep our closed beta characters.
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  • shiaikashiaika Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Silverstars Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?31751-200-pack-does-not-contain-items-from-60/page4&p=544301&viewfull=1#post544301

    So no wipes for Early Access to "Relased for the rest". Closed Beta to Open Beta? Surely. Open Beta to Early Access? I'd bet on that. Characters not having all the packs' stuff, people having used some of the stuff... yeah, I'd bet on that unless Cryptic announced previously to Open Beta, that those characters won't be wiped.
  • barkynbarkyn Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    slambit wrote: »
    what i think will happen is we can use our pack items in the beta and when they wipe everything before launch, i dont doubt they will do that, they will reset our packs so we get full amounts when they launch the game.

    But it is something that they need to make 100% clear, you make a good point in asking about it :)

    and there is is!

    If there is a beta wipe, do we get to keep any 20$ packs we buy?!

    I would hate to think they wouldnt have an answer for this...being it has to do with our money :)
    "Just because im short and stumpy doesnt mean im not fast and nimble. my thirst for treasure keeps me...shall we say...more athletic than most dwarves" Dakoldin Quiverbeard (Dwarven Ranger)
  • dayfy152dayfy152 Member Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    barkyn wrote: »
    imo I think (at this time) they wont be wiping our beta toons...if the 20$ packs are reusable and can buy them many times over...they should have waited to release this pack after toons become permanent, imagine the people whos probably going to want to buy these packs each once per toon. and the money lost with angry players when they find out our toons will be wiped. if they are going to wipe toons they should specify...

    moving along they are granting head start to (open beta)...usually its a head start for (launch) if they are head starting us in a beta this probably means that they want us to go ahead and start playing before launch itself. meaning open beta just turns into a launch without the wiping of characters before a company would start a head start for a games launch.


    now this being said im usually for wiping toons before a launch, but now that they have already released a one time use pack per character (20$ pack) i see no reason the toons we put money in be the characters we get to keep.

    the 60$ and 200$ are account unlocks...not the 20$...

    lol I dunno im eating lunch...I think more while I eat lol


    PWE might actually wipe them i do get what your sayig and you are right but this happened in RaiderZ sadly they had tech issues and werent even compensated for losing our head start we ended up starting with everyone else for the beta and they did end up wiping out the toons with everything they had but relase came like 1 week after that and beta testers where able to log into the servers about an hour or two earlier to let us reserve our names basically i think we have a 50/50 chance of them being wiped and of them not being wiped
  • shiaikashiaika Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Silverstars Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    *spends whole Open Beta and Early Access in the Foundry just in case*
  • tinbender02tinbender02 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 209 Bounty Hunter
    edited January 2013
    Just to clear things up:

    The Early Access is in regards to launch.

    Hero of the North purchasers will be able to log in to the Live game Five days early.

    Guardian of Neverwinter purchasers will be able to log in to the Live game Three days early.

    the above quote was from an administrator Melanderi in $200 pack does not include....
    For clarification, because I've seen this question pop up occasionally: The various packs will carry over into live launch. 100% guarantee it.

    the above is from administrator pwetrailturtle in charging for beta thread.

    Don't know how to link yet but those two posts seem too answer the questions. It looks like beta will wipe and packs will be there when the game goes live.
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  • deathssickledeathssickle Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    shiaika wrote: »
    http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?31751-200-pack-does-not-contain-items-from-60/page4&p=544301&viewfull=1#post544301

    So no wipes for Early Access to "Relased for the rest". Closed Beta to Open Beta? Surely. Open Beta to Early Access? I'd bet on that. Characters not having all the packs' stuff, people having used some of the stuff... yeah, I'd bet on that unless Cryptic announced previously to Open Beta, that those characters won't be wiped.
    I dont think with Early Access that Open Beta Characters will stay(they shall be wiped)
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  • deathssickledeathssickle Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    tinbender02 wrote: »
    the above quote was from an administrator Melanderi in $200 pack does not include....



    the above is from administrator pwetrailturtle in charging for beta thread.

    Don't know how to link yet but those two posts seem too answer the questions. It looks like beta will wipe and packs will be there when the game goes live.
    Just what I though and tried to tell them
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