test content
What is the Arc Client?
Install Arc

mmorpg.com says the game has a sub and lifetime option

argoyletargoylet Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
edited January 2013 in General Discussion (PC)
http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/634/feature/7089/Hope-Fear-All-at-Once.html#post

If we look at Star Trek Online, another game developed by Cryptic and now published by PWE, we can get a good idea of what monetization will look like in Neverwinter.
First there will be subscriptions, so-called Gold Memberships that come in at a typical old-school subscription price of $14.99 per month. There is also the Lifetime “Founder” status for $199. Score one for budget pricing. No really. Two hundred dollars, even if the game only lasted two years, is a helluva price.


I'm under the impression that an optional sub has never been mentioned, nor a lifetime option. So someone official may want to correct them.
Post edited by argoylet on
«1

Comments

  • nec0enec0e Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    isn't founder's basically lifetime?
  • shiaikashiaika Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Silverstars Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    nec0e wrote: »
    isn't founder's basically lifetime?
    Over time, Cryptic may (pure speculation, don't sue me!!!) add stuff that founders may get for free. But right now, just stuff pack (or so I undestand).
  • lanessar13lanessar13 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Silverstars Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I was going to correct them, but it's the media. There wasn't much homework done on the benefits of the pack, otherwise, this article wouldn't have been written.
  • cmpinpointerrorcmpinpointerror Member, Moonstars, Neverwinter Beta Users, Cryptic Developers, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Founder's Pack Users Posts: 646
    edited January 2013
    This is absolutely not true.

    Neverwinter will be completely free-to-play at launch without any subscription fees or lifetime fees. We're working with MMORPG.com to clarify.
  • iamtruthseekeriamtruthseeker Member, Moonstars, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Also, no payment for authors/users is planned whatsoever for Foundry use.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • darkstarkiriandarkstarkirian Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Also, no payment for authors/users is planned whatsoever for Foundry use.

    That's great no Astral Diamonds needed to get more Foundry slots!
    [SIGPIC]Handle: @kirian_darkstar
    Registered: Oct/2009 , LTS : Feb/2011
    Fleets: Warriors of the Phoenix, Kirian Industries[/SIGPIC]
    Three years and still no Captain Klaa hair...
  • bobcat1313bobcat1313 Member Posts: 1,089 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    How I read it they are talking about STO.
  • mokahmokah Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Also, no payment for authors/users is planned whatsoever for Foundry use.

    Can you elaborate on this at all? How many Foundry slots do players get? How do they get more? Do you have to achieve a certain lvl of rating to gain more slots?
    Mokah - The Grumpy Strumpet
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • ambisinisterrambisinisterr Member, Neverwinter Moderator Posts: 10,462 Community Moderator
    edited January 2013
    We can only discuss what has been publicly released thus far.

    There will be a content slot limit.
    There will be ways to earn more slots.
    There will be a DM level system.
    There will be ways to buy more slots.

    In all honesty we don't know anything more than that.

    Point is that article discussed STO and CO'S marketing system which absolutely is not Neverwinter's marketing system.
    It's not even worth putting them side by side and honestly they shouldn't be.
  • kalizaarkalizaar Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    nec0e wrote: »
    isn't founder's basically lifetime?

    Not really when compared to other lifetime offers in the past. Lifetime offers in the past tend to provide the player with a monthly stipend of whatever currency is used for cash shop purchases. Although 750k Astral Diamonds sounds like a lot I'm willing to bet it doesn't equal $5 a month of in-game purchases for the rest of your life.
  • nec0enec0e Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    yea, the amount of astral is kind of odd without knowing what 500 astral buys you...if anything.
  • deathssickledeathssickle Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Im just hoping I can buy the Hero later after the game release when I have more cash
    I am usually Deaths Crowbar.


    Anyone still searching for guilds you can check out HCG Hardcore Christian Gamers.
    NW FAQ | HCG NW Host Site
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • charsizcharsiz Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    1$ = 1500 Astral Diamonds, you heard it here first!
  • darkstarkiriandarkstarkirian Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    charsiz wrote: »
    1$ = 1500 Astral Diamonds, you heard it here first!
    i just looked at the DEvtracker I saw nothing about this from a Dev/Admin/Mod etc.
    Edit that out before someone says you are violating an NDA.
    [SIGPIC]Handle: @kirian_darkstar
    Registered: Oct/2009 , LTS : Feb/2011
    Fleets: Warriors of the Phoenix, Kirian Industries[/SIGPIC]
    Three years and still no Captain Klaa hair...
  • ambisinisterrambisinisterr Member, Neverwinter Moderator Posts: 10,462 Community Moderator
    edited January 2013
    Erm...there's no way to know the Astral Diamond currency rate.

    Let's not be spreadin' rumors now.
  • syberghostsyberghost Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 2,474
    edited January 2013
    nec0e wrote: »
    yea, the amount of astral is kind of odd without knowing what 500 astral buys you...if anything.

    I don't know how comparable AD will be to Dilithium in STO, but in STO, 750K Dilithium is between $50-$79 of Zen (going by the current and historical exchange rates), and around 93 character/days of grinding (assuming the extra 1k for lifetime subs is left out, which makes it 83 character/days).
  • mastrshadowmastrshadow Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    mokah wrote: »
    Can you elaborate on this at all? How many Foundry slots do players get? How do they get more? Do you have to achieve a certain lvl of rating to gain more slots?

    There is a video from GDC where they touch on monitizing the foundry. They say they wont.
  • logikal01logikal01 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Appreciate the prompt clarification!
  • argoyletargoylet Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Looks like there has been a bit of quiet editing.

    Originally article stated-

    If we look at Star Trek Online, another game developed by Cryptic and now published by PWE, we can get a good idea of what monetization will look like in Neverwinter.
    First there will be subscriptions, so-called Gold Memberships that come in at a typical old-school subscription price of $14.99 per month. There is also the Lifetime “Founder” status for $199. Score one for budget pricing. No really. Two hundred dollars, even if the game only lasted two years, is a helluva price.



    Now it says-

    If we look at Star Trek Online, another game developed by Cryptic and now published by PWE, we can get a good idea of what monetization will look like in Neverwinter. In STO there are subscriptions, so-called Gold Memberships that come in at a typical old-school subscription price of $14.99 per month. There is also the Lifetime “Founder” status for $199. Score one for budget pricing. No really. Two hundred dollars, even if the game only lasted two years, is a helluva price.



    Really not an adequate change, because it still sort of implies, especially with the erroneous Lifetime reference, that NWO has a sub. Also the correction should be public, not a quiet ninja edit.
  • zylaxxzylaxx Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 591 Bounty Hunter
    edited January 2013
    I would take everything MMORPG.com takes with a grain of salt. The site is notorious for its love of all things sandbox and hatred of themepark elements.


    Hate that site with as much impunity as I can muster.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    Character is what a man is in the dark
  • ambisinisterrambisinisterr Member, Neverwinter Moderator Posts: 10,462 Community Moderator
    edited January 2013
    Eh, better than leaving it as it was but sure it could have touched on the fact that I can't count how many times the devs, particularly The Squez, have basically screamed Neverwinter will be marketed completely differently than their previous titles.
  • zylaxxzylaxx Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 591 Bounty Hunter
    edited January 2013
    Eh, better than leaving it as it was but sure it could have touched on the fact that I can't count how many times the devs, particularly The Squez, have basically screamed Neverwinter will be marketed completely differently than their previous titles.


    I have every faith that NWO will be a tru Triple-A title and will not nickle and dime the customers like some of the posters on that site try to think will happen.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    Character is what a man is in the dark
  • warpetwarpet Member Posts: 1,969 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    This is absolutely not true.

    Neverwinter will be completely free-to-play at launch without any subscription fees or lifetime fees. We're working with MMORPG.com to clarify.
    did anyone saw this? why u still even consider that mmorpg was correct after this ?
  • bluesteel8bluesteel8 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    MMORPG is notorious for jumping the gun with misinformation.
    [SIGPIC]

    [/SIGPIC]
    The Older Gamers (25+) - Never too old to play games
  • argoyletargoylet Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    @warpet
    I don't think anyone here was ever in doubt. The problem is that others who aren't as keyed in, are getting bad information from mmorpg.com
  • devoteoftempusdevoteoftempus Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 473 Bounty Hunter
    edited January 2013
    This is absolutely not true.

    Neverwinter will be completely free-to-play at launch without any subscription fees or lifetime fees. We're working with MMORPG.com to clarify.

    They're not saying you have to pay a sub to play, what they're saying is there is a sub option for perks. DDO is a bad example since there are content restrictions, but take The Secret World. The game is B2P with all content available (execpt one story arc) but membership gives you some perks with the store and forget what else but no way does it restrict the player besides that one story arc.
  • devoteoftempusdevoteoftempus Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 473 Bounty Hunter
    edited January 2013
    To drive the point home here is the section, nowhere does it say one has to pay a sub only a comparison to STO which is logical.

    "If we look at Star Trek Online, another game developed by Cryptic and now published by PWE, we can get a good idea of what monetization will look like in Neverwinter. In STO there are subscriptions, so-called Gold Memberships that come in at a typical old-school subscription price of $14.99 per month. There is also the Lifetime “Founder” status for $199. Score one for budget pricing. No really. Two hundred dollars, even if the game only lasted two years, is a helluva price.

    But the real money will be made with the Neverwinter Store, that place where all things cosmetic or account-enhancing will live. Again, with STO, players can purchase ships, crew members and other personnel to enhance their gameplay experience. In addition, players can purchase chest keys, shared stash space and more. The point here is that the things sold in the store do not give a clear advantage to other players. This is actually what players want. To be able to choose exactly how much to spend and where to spend is the ultimate freedom of choice.

    Still, Cryptic and PWE are going to have to tread very carefully around the whole idea of the Neverwinter Store. Hopefully, they will do their research into the more successful RMT stores in other games like Guild Wars 2 or The Secret World."
  • devoteoftempusdevoteoftempus Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 473 Bounty Hunter
    edited January 2013
    zylaxx wrote: »
    I would take everything MMORPG.com takes with a grain of salt. The site is notorious for its love of all things sandbox and hatred of themepark elements.


    Hate that site with as much impunity as I can muster.
    That the forum PvP not the people who actually do the articles, MMORPG.com has always been favorable to Neverwinter unlike most of the community there.
  • ambisinisterrambisinisterr Member, Neverwinter Moderator Posts: 10,462 Community Moderator
    edited January 2013
    They're not saying you have to pay a sub to play, what they're saying is there is a sub option for perks. DDO is a bad example since there are content restrictions, but take The Secret World. The game is B2P with all content available (execpt one story arc) but membership gives you some perks with the store and forget what else but no way does it restrict the player besides that one story arc.

    What Pin said is there is NO SUBSCRIPTION OPTION.
    You can not pay a subscription in Neverwinter. It will be entirely micro-transaction based.
  • markfalconemarkfalcone Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 4
    edited January 2013
    argoylet wrote: »
    http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/634/feature/7089/Hope-Fear-All-at-Once.html#post

    If we look at Star Trek Online, another game developed by Cryptic and now published by PWE, we can get a good idea of what monetization will look like in Neverwinter. In STO there are subscriptions, so-called Gold Memberships that come in at a typical old-school subscription price of $14.99 per month. There is also the Lifetime



    There is no sub and Cryptic themselves had to contact this author with me advising her of this before. Your post was edited to reflect he current article. Posting an inaccurate reply deliberately will be grounds to having your post completely removed. This is a public warning to all users. No more rumor inciting. Thank you.
Sign In or Register to comment.