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Magic Missile.. :S

harkinharkin Member Posts: 135 Arc User
edited February 2013 in The Library
God that spell looks awful. I hope we can get a way for it to shoot more then one bolt at least... And what everyone else been saying, the animation for combat looks like some Martial Arts Class.
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  • inmutableinmutable Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    don't like it either
  • iamtruthseekeriamtruthseeker Member, Moonstars, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Sorry, it's a one target spell in game so there's no way they can do multiple missiles, nor are they redoing the remodeling. What I can say is there are other at wills I saw on the power tree screenshots so it looks like we can replace it down the line. Hmm, I wonder if that's because we can specialize our powers with feat trees or anything....
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  • alsarothalsaroth Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    I hope Larloch's minor drain can replace magic missile (less damage, more heal).
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  • denkasaebadenkasaeba Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    iamtruthseeker wrote: »
    Sorry, it's a one target spell in game so there's no way they can do multiple missiles, nor are they redoing the remodeling. What I can say is there are other at wills I saw on the power tree screenshots so it looks like we can replace it down the line. Hmm, I wonder if that's because we can specialize our powers with feat trees or anything....

    Can you link these screenshots, please?
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  • iamtruthseekeriamtruthseeker Member, Moonstars, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    denkasaeba wrote: »
    Can you link these screenshots, please?

    Actually, if you mean the powers screenshots, I got them from video months ago from links like Gamescon and other stuff. I didn't keep them current when they weren't asked so I will see if I can bring them back...ahh, here's one, starting from the time captured in this link. The GamesCon/ESL I use mainly fior character creation and backgouund but it shows MM and other wizard powers in action rather tthan the "powers screenshots" windows. I'm sure other viewers have their favorite powers screens to show and will gladly delegate that while I have to manager other things, but if I retrieve more screens of this I will post them again here!
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  • denkasaebadenkasaeba Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Thank you, truthseeker. Well, it's a good think they "stole" a lot of power names and wizard features from 4e :D
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  • iamtruthseekeriamtruthseeker Member, Moonstars, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Hehe, yes they did, maybe even a few of them "play" like the powers too :)
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  • harkinharkin Member Posts: 135 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Yeah i hate the way they have buthered my alltime favorite spell in DnD. Now i did accept the lose of Chromatic Orb along time ago. But to reduce the MM spell to a one bolt hit? Im sad. Please tell me we can replace it with something cool like Cloud of Dagger instead. :D
  • iamtruthseekeriamtruthseeker Member, Moonstars, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    harkin wrote: »
    Yeah i hate the way they have buthered my alltime favorite spell in DnD. Now i did accept the lose of Chromatic Orb along time ago. But to reduce the MM spell to a one bolt hit? Im sad. Please tell me we can replace it with something cool like Cloud of Dagger instead. :D

    One hundred percent with you on the Cloud of Daggers, but the public knows D&D wizards by Magic Missiles, and they needed some familiar spell to draw everybody in.


    From what I got from these and other Screenshots, the spells will eventually be replaceable with other swap out powers as you get to be a certain power level, and I saw additonal powers for at-will too, so it looks like yes for replacing at-will powers. Looking at those specialty things and powers, cold seems to be used a lot in the wizard for this game, so maybe it will be there too?
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  • ranncoreranncore Member, Moderators, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 2,508
    edited November 2012
    Wait, no one has mentioned casting a magic missile into the darkness?
  • deathssickledeathssickle Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    ranncore wrote: »
    Wait, no one has mentioned casting a magic missile into the darkness?
    Wait if your a sorcerer of light why do you need to attack the darkness.

    lol I love the 8bit DnD videos


    Seriously though Ive always loved magic missile.
    I was just lookin in my 4.0 PH though never realized it had such a nerf.
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  • harkinharkin Member Posts: 135 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    iamtruthseeker wrote: »
    One hundred percent with you on the Cloud of Daggers, but the public knows D&D wizards by Magic Missiles, and they needed some familiar spell to draw everybody in.


    From what I got from these and other Screenshots, the spells will eventually be replaceable with other swap out powers as you get to be a certain power level, and I saw additonal powers for at-will too, so it looks like yes for replacing at-will powers. Looking at those specialty things and powers, cold seems to be used a lot in the wizard for this game, so maybe it will be there too?

    That's the second thing that "bothers" me, why all the ice\cold spells? I understand they do it for the "controll" as the name applies to the kit of the mage, but i really really hope they add more stuff so we can get some more "personalization" which is basically half the thing about playing a mage. Swapping out spells when we want and need to.
  • ruikesan85ruikesan85 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 108 Bounty Hunter
    edited November 2012
    I'm sure there will be more, they're just showing some of the iconic spells. All the videos and interviews say you'll have several abilities to choose from but only a few hot keyed. The others will be available to hot-swap over to. How exactly that is accomplished I'm not sure as of yet.
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  • iamtruthseekeriamtruthseeker Member, Moonstars, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Don't have an answer yet, this Gazebo is tough!
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  • harkinharkin Member Posts: 135 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Haha, well as someone who loved Champions Online to death. If we could get even a fraction of choice as a mage as you had with powers in that game, im happy. And i bet they have plans to add more abilities and spells down the line anyway.
  • reafmanreafman Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Just an observation.

    MM fired multiple bolts mostly as a way to scale damage. Sure, you could actually break the bolts up to hit multiple targets, but most Wizards I played pnp with never bothered to do so. Using a single bolt visualization is kind of smart, in a way of thinking. As long as the single missile still scales in damage, you've achieved the same thing as multiple bolts, but with a consideration you never had to worry about in pencil & paper games; graphics load. The game looks visually stunning so far. All the graphics are amazing. I'm sure that a half dozen magic missiles wouldn't add much to the load, but, for some players that tiny degree might be the difference between frame rate lag every time the caster casts, and no frame rate issues. Just something to think about.
  • zeoxzzeoxz Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    only multi missile i saw in DnD 4e handbook

    Force Volley Wizard Attack 17
    Silvery missiles spring from your fingertips and streak across the
    battlefield, striking your enemies with staggering force.
    Encounter ✦ Arcane, Force, Implement
    Standard Action Ranged 20
    Targets: One, two, or three creatures
    Attack: Intelligence vs. Reflex, one attack per target
    Special: If you target only one creature with this power, you
    gain a +4 power bonus to the attack roll.
    Hit: 3d6 + Intelligence modifier force damage, and the target
    is dazed until the end of your next turn


    mayb later on they might intro greater magic missile & epic magic missile..(this are multi shots)fingers crossed
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  • princessluneprincesslune Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 32
    edited December 2012
    ranncore wrote: »
    Wait, no one has mentioned casting a magic missile into the darkness?

    *PHEW* thank you!
    now i can sleep.
  • tiima1tiima1 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Just based on the screenshot it looks like it's moving towards a "Diablo 3" style of power swap system, which is fine - right now it looks like there is only one 'path', but I'm sure it will be more fluid once it hits release.

    As for multiple magic missiles and the changes to that power in 4e, yeah. I still always imagine it as multiple missiles on one target, but that's just a graphics thing. D3 has one missile for magic missile too. There are a lot of at-will powers to chose from in the books though, so hopefully the choices there will open up as well!

    Edit:
    Wait, no one has mentioned casting a magic missile into the darkness?

    I facepalmed. :p
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  • aeroth001aeroth001 Member Posts: 420 Bounty Hunter
    edited December 2012
    I just hate 4e
  • surf13surf13 Member Posts: 561 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    aeroth001 wrote: »
    I just hate 4e
    You know where the door is...
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  • tiima1tiima1 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    aeroth001 wrote: »
    I just hate 4e

    So... hard... not... to... troll...
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  • iamtruthseekeriamtruthseeker Member, Moonstars, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Well, if anybody is Playtesting D&D NEXT you can stop complaining about multiple missiles and start complaining on how you get more instead. Not sure who signed up and the info is still confidential so that's it on the details.
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  • tiima1tiima1 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    the Next material is interesting for sure. It makes me feel nostalgic, actually :)
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  • nec0enec0e Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    as someone said the customization level of champions online would be nice...but unlikely, it is the golden standard of mmo customization but rarely feasible
  • hedronlordhedronlord Member Posts: 37 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    was it really that bad?

    I think of the at-wills as auto-attack replacements. Do auto-attacks usually look that good compared to other skills? Really?
  • harkinharkin Member Posts: 135 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    It should look good, you'll be spamming it most of your gametime. :P I for one loved the Eldritch Bolt AA in CO i always ranked it up to rank 2 or 3, since that was my most used ability on my character.
  • aeroth001aeroth001 Member Posts: 420 Bounty Hunter
    edited February 2013
    harkin wrote: »
    It should look good, you'll be spamming it most of your gametime. :P I for one loved the Eldritch Bolt AA in CO i always ranked it up to rank 2 or 3, since that was my most used ability on my character.

    Here I will defend the developers. At graphics even if they make the best graphics out there what they do will never come close to what our imagination created when we were playing D&D.

    It could use a little polish but I'm pretty sure that spell graphic effects will allmost never satisfy this comunity
  • noshmeknoshmek Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 48
    edited February 2013
    Maybe it's just me being a glass half full kind of goblin, but honestly... we're getting an MMO based on Forgotten Realms... the graphics could be of a Magic Muffin and I'd be thrilled.
  • iamtruthseekeriamtruthseeker Member, Moonstars, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    noshmek wrote: »
    Maybe it's just me being a glass half full kind of goblin, but honestly... we're getting an MMO based on Forgotten Realms... the graphics could be of a Magic Muffin and I'd be thrilled.


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