I'm wondering if there is going to be race bonuses. I want to be a Drow or (Dark Elf) warrior / palidan. So i hope it dosent give a negative because of race. Kinda like a Dwarf ranger lol.
i'm looking forward to it as well, i just wish they would explain what the trait does on the races page it's self rather than having to go to the announcement page
I could care less about racial bonuses and stuff. I'm more into the RP aspect (haters gonna hate). And just to prove that it CAN be done and for the sake of "fun", my first character will be a Dwarf Rogue.
I have a feeling I'm going to be seeing a lot of the same roles with regards to race/class.
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denkasaebaMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
I could care less about racial bonuses and stuff. I'm more into the RP aspect (haters gonna hate). And just to prove that it CAN be done and for the sake of "fun", my first character will be a Dwarf Rogue.
I have a feeling I'm going to be seeing a lot of the same roles with regards to race/class.
Oh, actually you can make worse choices. Bonus to Str and Con and Dwarven Resilience makes a very sturdy Brutal Scoundrel. No Dex bonus is bad, but there are surely worse races to pick for a "weird" rogue... for instance Tiefling and Dragonborn (but they're not SO bad either).
Dilige, et quod vis fac (Love, and do what you will)
I like halflings, mostly for RP reasons though and that rarely shows well in computer/video games where min-maxing is always king but I'd still play it for the fun of it. I'm hoping they keep putting out extra races and classes as time goes on. It is f2p so they'll be setting themselves up for it at least, like power sets in Champs. If it looks as good in game as it does so far this could be my new game of choice, I played the life out of NwN. I doubt it'd happen quick or even be near the front page of the list but Hengeyokai would be friggin awesome if they could make it playable.
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iamtruthseekerMember, Moonstars, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited November 2012
Absolutely agree. But I do worry they will make the halfling too wide and stocky nstead of small and nimble. We shall see.
I definitely like the small human over the hobbit look, unfortunately for Next they're going with the chibi/hobbit look. I will house rule that for my games, gnomes are bad enough. :S
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iamtruthseekerMember, Moonstars, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
I'd just watched that a few minutes ago lol. One of his other videos reminds me of that first game I talked about where we wound up in Sigil.
A long time after we got there and a few character swaps later (due to the dm's girlfriend) my character at the time was an Arak'Shee Bard (specialized in diplomacy) that'd followed the other adventurers through the door from ravenloft to Sigil. I heard about the Lady of Pain and how although she was the deity of sigil she didn't like to be bothered. At one point we got in way over our heads and I thought it'd be in our best interest to get help. I rolled like normal for deific intervention and rolled a diplomacy check of 87. The DM described it like I'd just blew an air horn in her ear from the front of a train going through her living room.
Well she appeared in front of us, quite unhappy. She dealt with our trouble but things went from bad to worse because although she helped us she then decided we needed to be killed too. One of the other players, who was absent but we had control of, happened to be in the area and saw the commotion, came to our aid and didn't know anything about the Lady of Pain. He saw that we were in trouble so he leapt to our defense, by leaping at the Lady and swinging full force into her. Understand this was a Goliath with the biggest hammer we could make him have (which was, well, ludicrous size (blame the dm's girlfriend, it was complicated)). The dm said we'd never hit her, she's basically a god here and doesn't even have stats. I rolled a 20......he crapped a brick.
I then rolled and tallied up the damage, around 350 (it was a monkey, don't ask). It took a minute for him to come up with this... As the hammer contacted her square on the mask the whole of Sigil began to quake. A rift sundered the ground and broke off a quarter of the grand city of doors leaving gaping chasms in the roads and buildings crumbled to the ground. As the hammer slowly reversed its path from the bladed lady cracks were seen running the length of her face just as the city itself. "For your transgressions you will not die so easily. No, you are to be locked away in My dungeon." She raised her hand and pillars grew around us as the entire block was teleported with us to an endless expanse of semiexistance in a state of purgatory.
Those particular characters are still there and any time we go to Sigil in any of our games it's got a big chunk of it floating off away from the rest. Good times indeed.
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iamtruthseekerMember, Moonstars, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
I'd just watched that a few minutes ago lol. One of his other videos reminds me of that first game I talked about where we wound up in Sigil.
A long time after we got there and a few character swaps later (due to the dm's girlfriend) my character at the time was an Arak'Shee Bard (specialized in diplomacy) that'd followed the other adventurers through the door from ravenloft to Sigil. I heard about the Lady of Pain and how although she was the deity of sigil she didn't like to be bothered. At one point we got in way over our heads and I thought it'd be in our best interest to get help. I rolled like normal for deific intervention and rolled a diplomacy check of 87. The DM described it like I'd just blew an air horn in her ear from the front of a train going through her living room.
Well she appeared in front of us, quite unhappy. She dealt with our trouble but things went from bad to worse because although she helped us she then decided we needed to be killed too. One of the other players, who was absent but we had control of, happened to be in the area and saw the commotion, came to our aid and didn't know anything about the Lady of Pain. He saw that we were in trouble so he leapt to our defense, by leaping at the Lady and swinging full force into her. Understand this was a Goliath with the biggest hammer we could make him have (which was, well, ludicrous size (blame the dm's girlfriend, it was complicated)). The dm said we'd never hit her, she's basically a god here and doesn't even have stats. I rolled a 20......he crapped a brick.
I then rolled and tallied up the damage, around 350 (it was a monkey, don't ask). It took a minute for him to come up with this... As the hammer contacted her square on the mask the whole of Sigil began to quake. A rift sundered the ground and broke off a quarter of the grand city of doors leaving gaping chasms in the roads and buildings crumbled to the ground. As the hammer slowly reversed its path from the bladed lady cracks were seen running the length of her face just as the city itself. "For your transgressions you will not die so easily. No, you are to be locked away in My dungeon." She raised her hand and pillars grew around us as the entire block was teleported with us to an endless expanse of semiexistance in a state of purgatory.
Those particular characters are still there and any time we go to Sigil in any of our games it's got a big chunk of it floating off away from the rest. Good times indeed.
Another one of my favorite episodes dealing with that animator here. *Funky Music* The Beholder as a Play-ah, OOOOOH YEAHH!
Ahhh yes, my tribute to the lady of pain reposted by Aandre here.
Although only one question stands out, not being 100% sure how high a level you were: how in the multiverse did you roll an 87?!
Oh wait, is this fourth edition? The Golaith threw me, but seeing a Arak'Shee makes me wonder if this was 2nd ed and using percentile instead?
It was 3.5, we used the 3.0 books and monkeyed the stats to sort of retrofit an "as a player" category.
Back in our first setting the dm's girlfriend had been having "special sessions" with the DM and wound up getting several levels worth of xp. She was the first to switch, our exploits in Ravenloft were quite the story. Her character became the Darklord's lover and my character was sworn to kill him. She became very nearly evil and my character became...Batman. It took a session or two of a siege on a fort we'd repaired for the darklord to show up but when he did we started breaking out the awesome. I was an elven ranger with a dabble in wizard for arcane archer. She was a half vistani sorcerer i think, it didn't see alot of combat, she mostly was there for RP.
Well anyway when the darklord showed up and we dealt with the trash she went out for him and I initiated combat, basically the whole-hearted red-in the-eyes sort, we were both getting torn up but there was plenty of the resourceful kind of awesome you only get at tabletop, including blind shots over a 20 ft wall that pegged him in the shoulder as he's monologuing about how pointless fighting him is. He retreated then came back with a 5 year old girl hostage, I make up a curse that I'd spent the time away from game to write so it was perfect, percentile wise I had a 25% shot to make it work by rules even voluntarily failing the corruption...I failed the check, the dm let me reroll, I failed 3 more times, then the dm says "you know what, you pass, that was awesome". The effect was he can no longer touch females with his bare hands or it feels like fire.
So he drops the girl I shoot him a few times and he runs off, i jump down from the wall onto a horse, chase him to a river where I find him and the girlfriend on the opposite side and the bridge floating away. I cast expedious retreat on myself and jump...botching...fall in halfway across and struggle a few rounds while he's laughing at me till I can manage to get off a jump spell at which point I'm able to get a foot hold jump out of the water while shooting him mid air and landing on the side with him. He goes back werewolf form and I pull out my sword.
We go at it and the girl casts darkness on us. All she can do is watch as the sounds of tooth claw and sword go back and forth with scratches howls cuts and rips are the only thing able to penetrate the darkness. Eventually it all goes silent as she sees me drag his dead corpse out of the ebon cloud and drop him in the mud. We stopped there for the night but when we came back the dm rolled up who'd be the new darklord. She had 100 I had 99 and then everything else was something random. As it goes, she got picked and since she'd become a werewolf from earlier she became the new pack leader for the country while my character swore his life to exterminate the lycans. However because of the weird sort of roleplaying we'd done it was decided that my character would never be able to bring himself to actually kill her.
So her character was removed from player control and I thought it best that my character also be, not thinking that I'd be able to continue his mission and help the story at the same time. So we both had to roll up characters and she went crazy, with the help of being in the dm's pants. She was Half-nymph undead construct paladin, perhaps i'm missing a few templates, really crazy and not really following any rules but it didn't matter. It had a really convoluted backstory that I only partially remember, i tried to block it out since it was just an excuse to minmax the <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> out of whatever could (or couldn't) be done all the while still having special sessions for extra levels. So as time went on she kept <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> us over using diplomacy and I decided to make something to counter her, hence an arak'shee (VrGtSF) bard that I actually really liked, including a picture and a 2 page bio.
So I specialized as heavy as I could in diplomacy and we made my friend a goliath combat monkey since both me and the girl would be sub-par in that area. We got a few levels there and went on to sigil where XP came a bit faster, I think I was around 14-16 at the time of the Lady of Pain story. It was hyperspecialized and had items, magic spells, racial bonuses, feats and everything I could legally stack aimed at one thing, keeping the girl from <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> us. It wound up being a fun little contest when me and her wanted very different things from the same people. You'd think it was Gangs of New York in Sigil with two people on opposite sides of the street up on soapboxes alternating the crowds between two extremes.
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iamtruthseekerMember, Moonstars, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
Yeah, we were shooed out of the house a time or twenty when either one needed "personal roleplay". There were also a lot of times when "Remember what we talked about hmmqhmmqhmm" when she was trying to find a reason for her character to do something off the wall. As long as I was having fun I was able to put aside my omgwtfBS is this thoughts.
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iamtruthseekerMember, Moonstars, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
I'm wondering if there is going to be race bonuses. I want to be a Drow or (Dark Elf) warrior / palidan. So i hope it dosent give a negative because of race. Kinda like a Dwarf ranger lol.
romo42Member, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 1Arc User
edited December 2012
I am an old player of d&d.
This Drow / Paladin player kiddie noobs make me puke.
Drow is a race for unimportant people who want to be feared online because of there annoying, boring lifes.
I am an old player of d&d.
This Drow / Paladin player kiddie noobs make me puke.
Drow is a race for unimportant people who want to be feared online because of there annoying, boring lifes.
Wrong. Drow is a race for desperate guys trying to seduce the girls who are into the bad-boy-romantic-vampire/demon fad (which is .... all the girls).
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At this moment the best race for Fighter seems, hands down, Human. But probably Dwarf will be similarly viable.
St. Augustinus
St. Augustinus
I have a feeling I'm going to be seeing a lot of the same roles with regards to race/class.
Oh, actually you can make worse choices. Bonus to Str and Con and Dwarven Resilience makes a very sturdy Brutal Scoundrel. No Dex bonus is bad, but there are surely worse races to pick for a "weird" rogue... for instance Tiefling and Dragonborn (but they're not SO bad either).
St. Augustinus
As long as you have 18 intellect, Wizard works. Wizard is the most race indipendent class in the game
If you want something really bad i'd suggest Dwarf Warlock or Dwarf Cunning Bard.
St. Augustinus
Available at launch, huh? Thanks for the info! >.>
And this might sound a little pompous, but I don't believe in bad characters, just bad players.
The only combination that seems blatantly bad, of all races available, is Eladrin or Halfing Fighter or Cleric. That is bad.
Anyway, i agree: there aren't bad characters, usually.
St. Augustinus
A long time after we got there and a few character swaps later (due to the dm's girlfriend) my character at the time was an Arak'Shee Bard (specialized in diplomacy) that'd followed the other adventurers through the door from ravenloft to Sigil. I heard about the Lady of Pain and how although she was the deity of sigil she didn't like to be bothered. At one point we got in way over our heads and I thought it'd be in our best interest to get help. I rolled like normal for deific intervention and rolled a diplomacy check of 87. The DM described it like I'd just blew an air horn in her ear from the front of a train going through her living room.
Well she appeared in front of us, quite unhappy. She dealt with our trouble but things went from bad to worse because although she helped us she then decided we needed to be killed too. One of the other players, who was absent but we had control of, happened to be in the area and saw the commotion, came to our aid and didn't know anything about the Lady of Pain. He saw that we were in trouble so he leapt to our defense, by leaping at the Lady and swinging full force into her. Understand this was a Goliath with the biggest hammer we could make him have (which was, well, ludicrous size (blame the dm's girlfriend, it was complicated)). The dm said we'd never hit her, she's basically a god here and doesn't even have stats. I rolled a 20......he crapped a brick.
I then rolled and tallied up the damage, around 350 (it was a monkey, don't ask). It took a minute for him to come up with this... As the hammer contacted her square on the mask the whole of Sigil began to quake. A rift sundered the ground and broke off a quarter of the grand city of doors leaving gaping chasms in the roads and buildings crumbled to the ground. As the hammer slowly reversed its path from the bladed lady cracks were seen running the length of her face just as the city itself. "For your transgressions you will not die so easily. No, you are to be locked away in My dungeon." She raised her hand and pillars grew around us as the entire block was teleported with us to an endless expanse of semiexistance in a state of purgatory.
Those particular characters are still there and any time we go to Sigil in any of our games it's got a big chunk of it floating off away from the rest. Good times indeed.
Another one of my favorite episodes dealing with that animator here. *Funky Music* The Beholder as a Play-ah, OOOOOH YEAHH!
Ahhh yes, my tribute to the lady of pain reposted by Aandre here.
Although only one question stands out, not being 100% sure how high a level you were: how in the multiverse did you roll an 87?!
Oh wait, is this fourth edition? The Golaith threw me, but seeing a Arak'Shee makes me wonder if this was 2nd ed and using percentile instead?
Back in our first setting the dm's girlfriend had been having "special sessions" with the DM and wound up getting several levels worth of xp. She was the first to switch, our exploits in Ravenloft were quite the story. Her character became the Darklord's lover and my character was sworn to kill him. She became very nearly evil and my character became...Batman. It took a session or two of a siege on a fort we'd repaired for the darklord to show up but when he did we started breaking out the awesome. I was an elven ranger with a dabble in wizard for arcane archer. She was a half vistani sorcerer i think, it didn't see alot of combat, she mostly was there for RP.
Well anyway when the darklord showed up and we dealt with the trash she went out for him and I initiated combat, basically the whole-hearted red-in the-eyes sort, we were both getting torn up but there was plenty of the resourceful kind of awesome you only get at tabletop, including blind shots over a 20 ft wall that pegged him in the shoulder as he's monologuing about how pointless fighting him is. He retreated then came back with a 5 year old girl hostage, I make up a curse that I'd spent the time away from game to write so it was perfect, percentile wise I had a 25% shot to make it work by rules even voluntarily failing the corruption...I failed the check, the dm let me reroll, I failed 3 more times, then the dm says "you know what, you pass, that was awesome". The effect was he can no longer touch females with his bare hands or it feels like fire.
So he drops the girl I shoot him a few times and he runs off, i jump down from the wall onto a horse, chase him to a river where I find him and the girlfriend on the opposite side and the bridge floating away. I cast expedious retreat on myself and jump...botching...fall in halfway across and struggle a few rounds while he's laughing at me till I can manage to get off a jump spell at which point I'm able to get a foot hold jump out of the water while shooting him mid air and landing on the side with him. He goes back werewolf form and I pull out my sword.
We go at it and the girl casts darkness on us. All she can do is watch as the sounds of tooth claw and sword go back and forth with scratches howls cuts and rips are the only thing able to penetrate the darkness. Eventually it all goes silent as she sees me drag his dead corpse out of the ebon cloud and drop him in the mud. We stopped there for the night but when we came back the dm rolled up who'd be the new darklord. She had 100 I had 99 and then everything else was something random. As it goes, she got picked and since she'd become a werewolf from earlier she became the new pack leader for the country while my character swore his life to exterminate the lycans. However because of the weird sort of roleplaying we'd done it was decided that my character would never be able to bring himself to actually kill her.
So her character was removed from player control and I thought it best that my character also be, not thinking that I'd be able to continue his mission and help the story at the same time. So we both had to roll up characters and she went crazy, with the help of being in the dm's pants. She was Half-nymph undead construct paladin, perhaps i'm missing a few templates, really crazy and not really following any rules but it didn't matter. It had a really convoluted backstory that I only partially remember, i tried to block it out since it was just an excuse to minmax the <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> out of whatever could (or couldn't) be done all the while still having special sessions for extra levels. So as time went on she kept <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> us over using diplomacy and I decided to make something to counter her, hence an arak'shee (VrGtSF) bard that I actually really liked, including a picture and a 2 page bio.
So I specialized as heavy as I could in diplomacy and we made my friend a goliath combat monkey since both me and the girl would be sub-par in that area. We got a few levels there and went on to sigil where XP came a bit faster, I think I was around 14-16 at the time of the Lady of Pain story. It was hyperspecialized and had items, magic spells, racial bonuses, feats and everything I could legally stack aimed at one thing, keeping the girl from <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> us. It wound up being a fun little contest when me and her wanted very different things from the same people. You'd think it was Gangs of New York in Sigil with two people on opposite sides of the street up on soapboxes alternating the crowds between two extremes.
I started laughing when I noticed it! I guess it's why it died
But thanks for explaining that "racial bonus" outcome.
Gee...A Half-Nymph, undead, construct and paladin just to start. She must have been quite a...performer with the DM
Fiona Bauerstone - Devoted Cleric - Dragon Server
This Drow / Paladin player kiddie noobs make me puke.
Drow is a race for unimportant people who want to be feared online because of there annoying, boring lifes.
Wrong. Drow is a race for desperate guys trying to seduce the girls who are into the bad-boy-romantic-vampire/demon fad (which is .... all the girls).
Too bad we won't have Gnomes Was looking forward to bringing my Fighter/Thief Nadbasher back! Ah we'll, I love Drow more then Gnomes anyway.