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Wizard's attack stance is not good.

mrbuttflakesmrbuttflakes Member Posts: 407 Arc User
edited September 2012 in General Discussion (PC)
After watching pretty much all the videos on Neverwinter something really stuck out to me, and that's the wizards attack stance. He walks like a zombie with a corn cob in his butt for one. Next, I'm not sure what the main attack he was using in the video was, but he looked like Gambit from X-men tossing cards from a deck at enemies. I just wanted to comment on that because it's really been bugging me and wondered if anyone else finds this bothersome.
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  • vangaldvangald Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 325 Bounty Hunter
    edited August 2012
    I looked alright to me. Did you expect him to break out in a splayed stance and twirl a staff for no good reason? Not sure what you are expecting here.
  • mrbuttflakesmrbuttflakes Member Posts: 407 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    vangald wrote: »
    I looked alright to me. Did you expect him to break out in a splayed stance and twirl a staff for no good reason? Not sure what you are expecting here.

    That would be a nice little addition. I wouldn't be walking like that if I were a wizard, unless I was a zombie wizard or an MC Hammer Wizard.
  • gillrmngillrmn Member Posts: 7,800 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    As per the trope, wizard should have a long beard and walk very slowly using stick with speed of snail, be unable to see anything clearly without glasses.

    Unless the wizard's name is Tim...
  • tuukkasalonentuukkasalonen Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    gillrmn wrote: »
    As per the trope, wizard should have a long beard and walk very slowly using stick with speed of snail, be unable to see anything clearly without glasses.

    Unless the wizard's name is Tim...

    You can also forget the glasses and slow speed if your talking about Elminster
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  • henzaihenzai Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Silverstars Posts: 154
    edited August 2012
    tuukkasalonen wrote: »
    You can also forget the glasses and slow speed if your talking about Elminster
    I hate Elminster, last time i met him he stole an artifact from me, witch i had righteusly stolen just moments earlier... but thats of topic. I get this MC idea in my head here... Wizard/Monk, just for the fancy moves
  • tuukkasalonentuukkasalonen Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    henzai wrote: »
    I hate Elminster, last time i met him he stole an artifact from me, witch i had righteusly stolen just moments earlier... but thats of topic. I get this MC idea in my head here... Wizard/Monk, just for the fancy moves

    I'm afraid that you cant steal anything righteously, laddy.
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  • henzaihenzai Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Silverstars Posts: 154
    edited August 2012
    Thats a matter of philosophies. And the Changeling Rouge i played at the moment thought you most certainly could ;)
  • tuukkasalonentuukkasalonen Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    henzai wrote: »
    Thats a matter of philosophies. And the Changeling Rouge i played at the moment thought you most certainly could ;)

    oh my you can steal without breaking laws but you most surely cant steal righteously. thats IMPOSSHIBRU!
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  • henzaihenzai Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Silverstars Posts: 154
    edited August 2012
    Two words: Robin Hood. If that ain't righteous theft i don't know what it is xD. Agree to disagree shall we?
  • ryvvikryvvik Member, Moonstars, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 966 Bounty Hunter
    edited August 2012
    Looks fine to me..... Better than running like forrest gump in GW2
  • gillrmngillrmn Member Posts: 7,800 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    tuukkasalonen wrote: »
    oh my you can steal without breaking laws but you most surely cant steal righteously. thats IMPOSSHIBRU!

    One can always righteously steal someone's heart. That would be righteous still.
  • tuukkasalonentuukkasalonen Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    gillrmn wrote: »
    One can always righteously steal someone's heart. That would be righteous still.

    Ahh but that cant be called as "stealing" if we're talking about material objects. Or have you ever heard that someone stole someones heart literally?
    henzai wrote: »
    Two words: Robin Hood. If that ain't righteous theft i don't know what it is xD. Agree to disagree shall we?
    Touch?...
    but wait? he maybe had righteous reason for stealing but he broke the law when he sole so he wasn't righteous thief!

    also he wore tights: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pc1am3KyYgA
    (okay okay maybe i was overdoing it a little)
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  • ausdoerrtausdoerrt Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    What about a paladin who forces some holy artifact out of possession of a mildly-evil force of some ne'er-do-wells? We all know reappropriation is just a fancy term... b:shutup
  • aavariusaavarius Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Silverstars Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    As to the original post, I'm not sure I'd describe it quite that way, but I do get a sense I'm watching the wizard direct a band. I think that's because of how upright the posture of the stance is.
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  • freekimdotcomfreekimdotcom Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 118 Bounty Hunter
    edited August 2012
    I agree with the OP, I think it looks stiff and awkward as hell. But if the majority thinks it looks fine then that's cool, whatever.
  • pilf3rpilf3r Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    tuukkasalonen wrote: »
    oh my you can steal without breaking laws but you most surely cant steal righteously. thats IMPOSSHIBRU!


    For something to be righteous it just needs to follow your moral filter or the morality of your God.

    What is righteous to a goodly person is very different than what is righteous to and evil person ;)

    http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/righteous_1

    and

    http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/morality?q=morality
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  • hazrothhazroth Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 50
    edited August 2012
    mrbuttflakes wrote: »
    After watching pretty much all the videos on Neverwinter something really stuck out to me, and that's the wizards attack stance. He walks like a zombie with a corn cob in his butt for one. Next, I'm not sure what the main attack he was using in the video was, but he looked like Gambit from X-men tossing cards from a deck at enemies. I just wanted to comment on that because it's really been bugging me and wondered if anyone else finds this bothersome.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgJb2N1TmcY

    The wizard doesn't look bad per say. He looks stiff when strafing but you would be too if you were required to focus your upper body on casting spells and the like. Other than that, I think the animations look nice and appropriate.

    P.S. I realize this thread has gotten off topic, I apologize for ruining the fun. :P
  • singularitariansingularitarian Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    I've actually been struck positively by the wizard's animations more than anyone else's. I think it's a considerable improvement over the ways I'm used to seeing magic-users animated.
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  • thedio777thedio777 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 75
    edited August 2012
    1) The animation on that clip does indeed look kind of stiff, but i saw another femal wizard and she was running kind of like the rogue :p

    2) why are they allways making tiefling wizards in cryptic xD?
  • vangaldvangald Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 325 Bounty Hunter
    edited August 2012
    mrbuttflakes wrote: »
    That would be a nice little addition. I wouldn't be walking like that if I were a wizard, unless I was a zombie wizard or an MC Hammer Wizard.

    Hammermancy is the most powerful of all magics.

    *casts Hammer time*
  • tuukkasalonentuukkasalonen Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    pilf3r wrote: »
    For something to be righteous it just needs to follow your moral filter or the morality of your God.

    What is righteous to a goodly person is very different than what is righteous to and evil person ;)

    http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/righteous_1

    and

    http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/morality?q=morality

    Yes but its impossible that everyone thinks it was righteous. 'Cause as you said "evil" characters have different idea of "righteousness" than "good" characters. So its impossible that they both wouldd think that some act is righteous. If you can prove that im wrong with this message then

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  • vangaldvangald Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 325 Bounty Hunter
    edited August 2012
    Well what if both the good alignment people think something destructive is good because doing it will save a bunch of other people. But the bad alignment people think it is good because it is wanton destruction without know about it reducing the risk of others.
  • tuukkasalonentuukkasalonen Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    vangald wrote: »
    Well what if both the good alignment people think something destructive is good because doing it will save a bunch of other people. But the bad alignment people think it is good because it is wanton destruction without know about it reducing the risk of others.

    But that doesn't make it righteous destruction? In my books, righteous and good are different things
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  • gillrmngillrmn Member Posts: 7,800 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    There is no good in this world anyways. Most of the help considered good comes out of pity - when you view yourself as superior to others. People don't help those of whom they feel jealous.

    The world is one big roleplay anyways...
  • stormshadestormshade Member, Banned Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Wouldn't stealing the rod of ultimate destruction from the lich who plans to use it to raise a defenseless city be considered a righteous theft?

    I mean, the lich who intended to do evil with it is probably highly annoyed...

    But the helpless village you just saved is probably very happy to be able to continue its existence...

    Plus, now you have a lich who's going to be constantly trying to get back at your adventuring party! Countless adventures can be born of this!

    Cheers,

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  • vindiconvindicon Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Pfff... amateurs, contemplating about righteousness and stuff...

    You wanna steal something? Then steal it and run. There is no crime unless you get caught, so you won't have to wonder if it was a righteous crime or not unless you walk straight into a guard...

    That's why I don't want good characters in my parties, they waste all their time argueing about their stupid philosophies instead of actually doing anything useful... =___=
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  • deadarmoured87deadarmoured87 Member Posts: 65
    edited August 2012
    I also find the stance a little odd.

    I think the problem is that the hands are always outstretched infront of the character at equal lengths, while the legs swivel around underneath to run in any direction (seemingly independant from the top half of the body).

    It looks like this, traveling in any direction:

    horse-stance05.jpg

    I think it'd be better if when strafing left or right you moved in a southpaw/orthodox stance

    For example: if you were moving to you left, your body would be turned to the left 45 degrees, your right arm out in front, your left arm drawn further back (southpaw)
  • pilf3rpilf3r Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    tuukkasalonen wrote: »
    Yes but its impossible that everyone thinks it was righteous. 'Cause as you said "evil" characters have different idea of "righteousness" than "good" characters. So its impossible that they both wouldd think that some act is righteous. If you can prove that im wrong with this message then

    I fall to the shadows


    That's what I'm saying, righteousness depends on your moral filter period.

    Being that the world is made up of many people with different values and moral "filters" opposite actions can be righteous to opposite groups etc etc.

    For example a righteous act would be very different for a Blackguard ( of the fallen paladin variety) than say a paladin.


    stormshade wrote: »
    Wouldn't stealing the rod of ultimate destruction from the lich who plans to use it to raise a defenseless city be considered a righteous theft?

    I mean, the lich who intended to do evil with it is probably highly annoyed...

    But the helpless village you just saved is probably very happy to be able to continue its existence...

    Plus, now you have a lich who's going to be constantly trying to get back at your adventuring party! Countless adventures can be born of this!

    Cheers,

    Stormshade


    The problem is that you all are confusing a persons actual "actions" with righteousness.

    The action of thievery is neither righteous or not, its YOUR moral filter that dictates whether you PERCEIVE it as righteous.

    It all depends on your point of view or perception so to speak.
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  • mrbuttflakesmrbuttflakes Member Posts: 407 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    If you guys wanted to make a thread about "stealing" I believe there's already a thread for that. YOU may find it righteous to steal my thread, but being the one getting stolen from, I do not. This is about MC Hammer wizard!!! b:laugh
  • vangaldvangald Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 325 Bounty Hunter
    edited August 2012
    Hammerman will save us!
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