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What ideas from other MMO's should Neverwinter take up?
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Right now, I'm quite fascinated by the new Guild Wars 2 game and there is one thing I would love to see also in Neverwinter: Dynamic quests.
What is that? Well, it's something a bit new in mmo games. Instead of finding a guy with a question mark to get a quest you... simply explore. The game provides random encounters with people and events that lead into a quest. For example you drink in a tavern when somebody screams and you need to save the town from bandits, or you explore ancient ruins and find a mysterious painting that starts a quest, or you walk into a bandit group, kill them and find a letter that starts a quest - what's important is that most of this stuff should not be fixed. It should be random encounters - so that people will not explore only what's in the walkthrough on the internet, but explore the whole world.
What is that? Well, it's something a bit new in mmo games. Instead of finding a guy with a question mark to get a quest you... simply explore. The game provides random encounters with people and events that lead into a quest. For example you drink in a tavern when somebody screams and you need to save the town from bandits, or you explore ancient ruins and find a mysterious painting that starts a quest, or you walk into a bandit group, kill them and find a letter that starts a quest - what's important is that most of this stuff should not be fixed. It should be random encounters - so that people will not explore only what's in the walkthrough on the internet, but explore the whole world.
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In another D&D mmo, players who reach level 20 can reincarnate to once again start playing from level 1. And reincarnated characters gain "past life feats" of his/her previous classes. By reincarnating, players become stronger.
Not sure how Neverwinter encourages players who have reached the highest level to keep playing the game. Maybe reincarnation or similar ideas are good solutions.
But if Neverwinter decides to introduce reincarnation system, I hope the reincarnation ritual can be fantastic or magical. The another D&D mmo seems to has a weird interpretation of "reincarnation". In that game, players who want to reincarnate have to be killed by an orc before they can reincarnate. That's too cruel.
Been playing pen and paper since mid 80:s and so tired of the turn based system - let the action in the game.
I really hope for an exploring game -but if i have to stand still with a Ranger and shoot im logging out again. Im used to run and shoot, jump off a cliff with feather fall and rain arrows from above -thats what i want to see for an example.
ygolonar, you mentioned the fighting system. What specifically are you referring to? This can go from the basic attack mouse click to something regarding the activation of attack powers (melee attacks, spells, etc.) If it is a good idea (and able to replicate for this game,) a detailed description could help potential porting.
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I hope when ddo goes to the underdark here soon, will have a chance too have some real dark quest , were we need too use torches.
We have one quest thats close too that in ddo called "Rainbow in the Dark' it's close too being dark. any way thats my 2 cents
Its not close to being dark it is completely in the dark lol, the only reason you can see where to jump or climb etc is because you need to carry along a "staff" you get at the beginning of the quest that gives off light, kind off like a magical torch
Might be fun though if they did add darkvision as race traits to those races that have it like drow for example BUT it would have to be like its meant to be ( you see in black and white when in complete darkness) and they need to put the other side of the coin to this advantage namely:
Light Blindness: Abrupt exposure to bright light (such as sunlight or a daylight spell) blinds drow for 1 round. On subsequent rounds, they are dazzled as long as they remain in the affected area.
http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Elves,_Dark%E2%80%94Drow_%28Race%29
I will end this saying i'm not super familiar with all aspect of 4E as i preferred 3.5e so maybe this has been changed some.
Big fan of lighting conditions, and RitD was one of my favorite DDO missions BTW, even with that lighting aside. (My main being a wizard with certain cube monsters there and disintegration didn't hurt either.)
To everybody:
Stupid question, but does 4th ed state Darkvision is only black and white, regular color spectrum, or something else? I know it was for 3.x versions. I tried looking it up on the Insider glossery and all it listed was--
One of the faults of multi-edition/old time players is (even with great memory when it's not photographic) the rules begin to all blur together when it's not something significantly different. The old Ultravision/Infravision was clear enough, then editions changed from version to version, including what monsters and PC's had and how they differed on when it came to these abilities (same with tremorsense to a limited degree.)
All that written, I think as a computer image "toggle" or "indicator" that darkvision as a B&W and low-light as a dim or muted image would be fantastic.
Not 100% sure ( I did not spend any actual time looking it up), but I believe they may have left it intentionally vague to allow people to decide for themselves how it worked. I am sure many just think of it as being able to see in the dark as if they had normal lighting. A friend of mine once said, way back when, "it is kind of cool for them to give creatures the ability to see in the dark with infravision, but why did they take a scientific approach to a fantasy game where the rules of reality are magical?" I could not answer him.
I see how it is, give credit to the new guy but not the original
I still agree 100%
Apologies, you too....
and the most original of all, Gygax. May he rest in peace and his narrative forevermore be in DDO.
No biggy, just couldnt pass up the oportunity to give ya hell about it
Cryptic should also look around at all the various UIs out there & take notice of the ones that are clunky or broken..... don't use those!
I'm going with game-play (close to 4e as possible) experience before graphics, but both could certainly be tweaked to their best options for most players.
Agreed. We can get flashy graphics anywhere, but 4e gameplay in a computer game is not so easy to come by.
And tell me why we can't have both why does DnD have to equal HAMSTER graphics? Especially nowadays?
I want the whole package not just half of it.
So do I. But I want the game play to be D&D first. No pretty looking not D&D which is every other MMO (save DDO maybe.) We want D&D and decent graphics, as long as it's really D&D of course.
Yeah i see, still can't say the "graphics" have anything to do with how the gameplay is but on the whoel i get the point, i just hope the graphics are not too cartoony. i mean the website design has me a little worried about that though.
Take a look at the banner (up top) and the "toons" on either side of the "Neverwinter"
I hope that isn't the kind of graphics we can expect.
Concerns seconded.
If this is true, and I'm not saying that it is, then the only possible reason that I can think of would be our crappy economic system.
I agree it's best to have both. But, if there has to be a choice to prioritize one or the other, I'm in favor of prioritizing gameplay.
You've... never played 4e, have you? Those avatars pretty much match the art style of the the books. They are exactly the kind of art style that most people who come to the game having only played (or most recently played) DnD pen n paper style will be looking for. And it's a good style. Pleasant to look at, artistically and aesthetically pleasing, and functional.
As far as technical. Don't bork my computer with shaders and the like please. In fact I would suspect that when beta roles around it will probably be a good time for a user system survey to see what kind of hardware the community is using.
That really depends on taste and I don't agree. I never got into the whole DnD miniature wargames thing.
As to the technical part well we are in a period of time where multi-cores is the norm for a gaming pc so ...
I'm with asmodeous on this one. The artwork for 4e is the absolute worst of all the editions IMO. To me it looks like the artist sat down and thought "How can I make this look like it should be aired on Saturday morning?"
I would use the 4e art for advertising (print ads and box art) just for the recognition but use a different style for the gameplay.
I was around when Ruby-Spears did the Sat. A.M. D&D cartoon. That I respect more.
Nothing wrong with different styles for print D&D, but the art would absolutely not work in a computer game graphics setting.
Since I got into Neverwinter because of DDO, I think this would make the game more interesting. I TR my Ranger on that game, and it was fun doing it all over again. Since the characters get additional Stat Points and Feats, it also made the character stronger. I noticed the difference right away when I TR my character, I did more damage, had higher sustain, and I had bonus feats. Ofcourse I knew everything about the quests and bosses so I got to finish them faster. The thing about TR is that it also take longer since you need more XP, additionally they would have to add more quests incase the current ones are not enough. I would like to see Neverwinter do the same, since I loved the TR option in DDO. If they decide to go down this path I'm sure they would find a way to make some bank like DDO and add additional stuff for the TR process, but then again what game does not love making money? Just a reminder that the game it's still on Beta, so if we get enought people or get the topic out of TR maybe they will consider it when the game fully releases. I would love this option on Neverwinter, but then again it might not hapen. Oh by the way, the Orc does not kill you he just takes the Heart of wood and ... well he kinda does kill you, but it's not brutal. lol