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Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 5,050,278 Bounty Hunter
edited May 2013 in General Discussion (PC)
I know that Cryptic is great about character customization, but... in lots of games you can plan only muscular characters, or just fit. I wonder if we will be allowed to play fat character, or really skinny, with some deformities. In other words: not perfect.
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 5,050,278 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2011
    What? Nobody else wants to play an ugly witch-wizard, or a fat veteran fighter? :P
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 5,050,278 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2011
    crytic normally give you sliders on different body parts to set your height and weight to how you want, although im not sure you will get the ability to make a monstrously bulbous blob of a person, but you probably be ale to make a fat fighter.

    as for deformities, i can imagine a missing eye or some scars but again im not sure it will go much past that.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 5,050,278 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2011
    I hope we get the chance. Most of my characters in D&D have been on the portly side. :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 5,050,278 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2011
    Zobmie wrote: »
    I hope we get the chance. Most of my characters in D&D have been on the portly side. :)

    Yep nothing like taking a fat Cleric with you...then offering him up at the first sign of Troll, Ogre or any other Humanoid munching beastie. :D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 5,050,278 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2011
    Cryptic rules at customization. I have not seen anything come close other than maybe star wars galaxies.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 5,050,278 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2011
    Qumi wrote: »
    I know that Cryptic is great about character customization, but... in lots of games you can plan only muscular characters, or just fit. I wonder if we will be allowed to play fat character, or really skinny, with some deformities. In other words: not perfect.

    I want my character to look like a player character, not a player. :D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 5,050,278 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2011
    Sliders do not suffice.

    STO is plagued by that sad issue, as the STO customization is better suited to creating different humanoid species rather than creating different people. If you're making an human, each sex has 1 asian and 1 caucasian-looking template and then sliders.

    ...and I end up thinking, looking at the humans, that they facially look very much the same except that one guy with have darker skin and a beard, another guy will be paler with bloated lips and a big nose. Basically, you can see a family resemblance, and it really irks me.

    If they had more than two base template (Aion, for example, has a LOT in addition to sliders) then your character customization becomes somewhat greater, and then your sliders have even greater value on top of that.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 5,050,278 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2011
    I would like some customization so I can make a semi balding mage with a bit of a beer guy and a beard. Who ever heard of muscular mages unless they were elves. We mages spend hours in lamp lite rooms eating cheese off the wheel and the exercise we get is going to the restroom.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 5,050,278 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2011
    kalidor wrote: »
    I want my character to look like a player character, not a player. :D

    What I don't like is how in WoW my toons forarm was bigger round than my upper leg (200 lb male) or how in DA all the woman had DD....equipment. I like modesty in my toons which a lot of game designers always go for the Mr Universe build or a woman's package is where 90% of her weight is at.

    And please don't go the skimpy female armor route where a guys gaunlets had more armor that an entire female's suit of armor.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 5,050,278 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2011
    I want to see that fabled new hairtech the Devs keep putting as 'long term goal' in the engineering reports.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 5,050,278 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2011
    Saco123 wrote:
    And please don't go the skimpy female armor route where a guys gaunlets had more armor that an entire female's suit of armor.

    What!? Blasphemy! Chainmail bikini is the traditional outfit for female adventurer. Don't fight the tradition. :p

    ...I just realized I've nothing substantial to add to this conversation. Other than that I agree with requested customization features. Sometimes it's nice to play a character that is less than ideal even if I usually don't.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 5,050,278 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2011
    Hm.. yeah, I want to play a Quasimodo-like character as a Paladin! Give me that option!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 5,050,278 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2011
    Personally, I hope the customizer has a TON of freedom. While I agree that the humanoid sliders in STO are somewhat limited, the alien slider is quite the opposite. Maybe NW doesn't need all that, but at least a portion of it would be welcome.
    Saco123 wrote:
    ...please don't go the skimpy female armor route where -
    - quiet, you!
  • averyl123averyl123 Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I noticed that Elven and Half-Elven males are just ugly...most beautiful races of The Realms are so...ugly here. Half-Elven's mandible is like Neanderthal's one...Another thing is Males buttocks...yes I know it can't be a HAMSTER game but maybe a little anatomically corection? Where did they saw a males with wooden plank on their butt? They never forget to make a good female's HAMSTER...Im a girl and I would like to see nice guys as well :D
  • clannamuirclannamuir Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 217 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    averyl123 wrote: »
    I noticed that Elven and Half-Elven males are just ugly...most beautiful races of The Realms are so...ugly here. Half-Elven's mandible is like Neanderthal's one...Another thing is Males buttocks...yes I know it can't be a HAMSTER game but maybe a little anatomically corection? Where did they saw a males with wooden plank on their butt? They never forget to make a good female's HAMSTER...Im a girl and I would like to see nice guys as well :D

    Part of the issue is the base models they use. A low poly count model will not look as good as a medium poly count. Second is the level of graphics card/driver they designed for. Since they probably designed for a mid-level card, so more users could play without lag, they cannot do some the the small fixing tweaks in the textures needed to make a low-poly model look good.

    Another issue is how much customization data is being pushed to the clients. Do you really want to wait for all the on-line players' toon data to be pushed to you or are you willing to accept base models/colors with limited mods so that the needed data to display the toon is small?
  • palelonginuspalelonginus Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    averyl123 wrote: »
    I noticed that Elven and Half-Elven males are just ugly...most beautiful races of The Realms are so...ugly here. Half-Elven's mandible is like Neanderthal's one...

    Half elf males are just hideous, especially from the profile. I don't know what they were thinking. Elf males are slightly better, but still rather ugly. For some reason elf male lips slider is locked so that they always have really thin and cruel looking thin lips. Not pretty. Also, many males have horrible jutting jaws, half orcs and half-elves being the worst. I can understand that half orcs are not supposed to look pretty, but they look just ridiculous.

    Interestingly enough, I was playing with the Foundry, and there are more customisation options there. I managed to create a good looking elf male and a good looking half orc male. The lip slider actually dis something, and there was a slider to adjust that horrible jutting jaw. It is frustrating to know that the engine actually has the potential for better looking characters and we just cannot access them.

    If any developers are reading this, please consider bringing some of those Foundry options to the regular character creation. I understand that some sliders need to be limited to stop people just making mutant freaks, but currently the option are too limited. Especially consider expanding the range of lip fullness slider (particularly on elf males) as well as giving us jaw jut slider.

    (BTW, is there a way to save character looks into a separate file like in Star Trek Online?)
  • palelonginuspalelonginus Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Oh, and could the elf males get a non-hairy skin. They can't grow a beard, it is odd that they have a hairy chest...
  • palelonginuspalelonginus Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    And while we are at it, why is therre no height slider? Why is everyone same height?
  • eyebreaker7eyebreaker7 Member Posts: 621 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    You can adjust your height a little by extending or shortening the legs in the customization tab. There is also a choice between 3 dif size bodys in general as well one of which is a fatter person. One is a fit person and I forget the other one.
    Hope this helps. Enjoy the game :cool:
    I'm gonna rip your head off and make it my puppet! (NwN2)
  • eyebreaker7eyebreaker7 Member Posts: 621 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    You can adjust your height a little by extending or shortening the legs in the customization tab. There is also a choice between 3 dif size bodys in general as well one of which is a fatter person. One is a fit person and I forget the other one.
    Hope this helps. Enjoy the game :cool:
    I'm gonna rip your head off and make it my puppet! (NwN2)
  • eyebreaker7eyebreaker7 Member Posts: 621 Arc User
    edited May 2013
  • palelonginuspalelonginus Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Star Trek had decent character customisation, even though it too had its issues. As Neverwinter is a newer game, I expected customisation to be better than in ST; instead it is much worse. Frankly, that was quite a disappointment.
  • just2sweetjust2sweet Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I know that Cryptic is great about character customization, but... in lots of games you can plan only muscular characters, or just fit. I wonder if we will be allowed to play fat character, or really skinny, with some deformities. In other words: not perfect.

    Na, I play as someone less than perfect in real life. It's not much fun to be honest!
  • palelonginuspalelonginus Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    just2sweet wrote: »
    Na, I play as someone less than perfect in real life. It's not much fun to be honest!

    What about us who already are gorgeous in real life!
  • palelonginuspalelonginus Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I think I'll have to give up on this game. I have tried for two days create a character look I like. It just can't be done. I'm dismayed how bad the character creator is in such a new game.
  • spacedinvaderspacedinvader Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Oh boy, this thread has been necro'd hard...
    M i n e r v a | R e q u i e m
  • jorifice1jorifice1 Member Posts: 1,042 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Star Trek had decent character customisation, even though it too had its issues. As Neverwinter is a newer game, I expected customisation to be better than in ST; instead it is much worse. Frankly, that was quite a disappointment.
    You go back a Generation further, to Champions Online, the Customization increases further. In their next game everybody gets an identical stick figure!

    'Wen considered the nature of time and understood that the universe is, instant by instant, recreated anew. Therefore, he understood, there is in truth no past, only a memory of the past. Blink your eyes, and the world you see next did not exist when you closed them. Therefore, he said, the only appropriate state of the mind is surprise. The only appropriate state of the heart is joy. The sky you see now, you have never seen before. The perfect moment is now. Be glad of it.' Terry Pratchet The Thief Of Time
  • palelonginuspalelonginus Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Most bizarre thing is that there actually are more sliders in the Foundry... they just for some reason did not put them in the game.
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