Can you finally include pvp to Neverwinter?

lunartic666

Just as the title says. Is it possible to do any actions about pvp in near future? As far as i remember the last content added was in mod 17, almost 4 years ago if i'm correct, so it's really long time for online game.
I'm not asking for much, just any dev or mod respond, would be appreciated.

percemer

Hello @lunartic666,

Here is the last statement from our Executive Producer:

I know that there are still definitely some PvP fans out there, but PvP is mostly on the back burner for things that we are looking at updating. It has a much lower engagement. It would take a lot of effort for us to make it more accessible to a large number of players. To tackle that it would require a fairly major feature update. It’s unfortunately not currently on our radar for the current expansion or the next one. We are looking at some quality-of-life changes, improving access by reducing some of the restrictions of the legacy PvP items that players cannot really get because they are locked behind various walls of campaign progression and it’s very difficult to get those. We are however not going to be able to go back, reinvent Neverwinter’s PvP and get tons of players playing it without a substantial feature behind it and that’s not happening in the near future.

Recap of the Q&A with EP Brett Norton - March 2023

lunartic666

Thanks for reply, but i have another question; can we have some temporary solution to (possibly) improve playerbase in pvp? Like getting leaderboards back?
No need for seasons with rewards, just leaderboards. You know, an experiment to see if it's not to late for real fixes.

modlesie

there used to be time when there was a PvP in neverwinter, we got more than 1000 pages of players in Neverwinter pvp, but they just screwed everything up, like they do with what's left of this game

eyceaether

percemer said:

Hello @lunartic666,

Here is the last statement from our Executive Producer:

I know that there are still definitely some PvP fans out there, but PvP is mostly on the back burner for things that we are looking at updating. It has a much lower engagement. It would take a lot of effort for us to make it more accessible to a large number of players. To tackle that it would require a fairly major feature update. It’s unfortunately not currently on our radar for the current expansion or the next one. We are looking at some quality-of-life changes, improving access by reducing some of the restrictions of the legacy PvP items that players cannot really get because they are locked behind various walls of campaign progression and it’s very difficult to get those. We are however not going to be able to go back, reinvent Neverwinter’s PvP and get tons of players playing it without a substantial feature behind it and that’s not happening in the near future.

Recap of the Q&A with EP Brett Norton - March 2023

I just want to say thank you so much for answering the question directly, it really means a lot to get a straight answer. Now when someone asks we can just link them to your response.

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fuxion

In June it was mentioned that PVP will be back ...what happened ???

plasticbat

fuxion#7775 said:

In June it was mentioned that PVP will be back ...what happened ???

Who said PVP will be back in March?

In March,

fuxion

plasticbat said:

fuxion#7775 said:

In June it was mentioned that PVP will be back ...what happened ???

Who said PVP will be back in March?

In March,

Apologies - The repost was in June but comment was in march correct.

plasticbat

fuxion#7775 said:

plasticbat said:

fuxion#7775 said:

In June it was mentioned that PVP will be back ...what happened ???

Who said PVP will be back in March?

In March,

Apologies - The repost was in June but comment was in march correct.

Regardless, they did not say PVP will be back although they did not say outright it wouldn't. In a sense, they implied it would not, at least not in the near future.

fuxion

why cant we have PVP ??? Seriously ..take away overpowered mount powers in PVP and we are already half way there !
Please ...i really dont understand this ... at some point we had thousands of pages with players doing pvp (leaderboard)

many would really like it back cause its different to the consistent ridiculous grind which is killing this game 'tbh

PVP would be a great addition and lure new players ...it would just take a little dedication to set it up so its skill based and not gear based

fuxion

Thousands of players left this game when PVP had no more rewards or leaderboard

plasticbat

Well, many reasons. Let me speculate:
1. There were not thousands of pages in the leaderboard.
2. The thousands of players who left will not return just because of the PVP reward.
3. It will not lure any new players. This PVP is subpar (and that is already a polite way to say it) comparing with others. Adding back reward does not make it decent.
4. They already had hard time to keep the game going and that was before #5.
5. Many dev were layoff recently. Sister gaming companies (from the same parent) were either had layoff or shutdown one by one. One more was shutdown either yesterday or last week.

fuxion

None of the above is an excuse that is in any way valid .. the game offers PVP queue but there is no motivation to join the PVP queue if they wont get a reward so rather then say the game doesnt have pvp .. cause pretending it does have pvp is what is happening right now'.
PVP is dead and whether sub par in your opinion there are still those who enjoy it and enjoy Neverwinter

plasticbat

fuxion#7775 said:

None of the above is an excuse that is in any way valid .. the game offers PVP queue but there is no motivation to join the PVP queue if they wont get a reward so rather then say the game doesnt have pvp .. cause pretending it does have pvp is what is happening right now'.
PVP is dead and whether sub par in your opinion there are still those who enjoy it and enjoy Neverwinter

If they could remove/disable it without costing resource/money to do so, they would have done that.

fuxion

Its much easier to just enable it . with few small changes

hadestemplar

What on earth you all talking about...

Since when Neverwinter online had disabaled pvp? huh? It was never disabled, ever. It was and it is always open for all who want to pvp's.

Sure pvp was kinda abandone by staff, and it's like since last pvp capagn rework..

And it's easy to understand how and why it happened..


For moment pvp's were just another field where player farmed/grinded stuffs required for gear/items refinaments.

Lot of fights were agreed before even they started. How do you like, you q in domination pvp( 5vs 5) and 4 of your party members instantly goes afk.. Whole purpose were just to push friends through leaderboard..
Also it was not new that players used multi clients for same purpose too...

Sure developers added solo q for domination pvp. To counter such posible arrangements who's win and lose... But it didn't take long for players to get around this idea.

Like 10 players in group q to domination pvp in same moment.


So more less, season pvp's was nothing more but a formality... You could even bought postion in leaderboard. And when you have such situation, what the point to expand on it???
What the point to work on pvp if roughly 70% of all pvp's time players do afk, and let someone win ( by agreements before pvp's).


Not mentioned class disbalance which was so obvious and impossible to hide.. It was right in YOUR FACE. So naturally portion of playerbase didn't even bother to paritcipate in pvp's at all..

Siege/guild pvp( 20 vs 20)? It was considered as dead feature before it got in live server ( mod 7).
Due game mechanics and various abilties intereactions usually caused massive game lag spikes and disconnections... THat's why it never expanded and only some guild did GvG fights...
While others used multi clients and bots to farm them for Blood Rubby ( refine ponts) giving item which up till mod 15 was worth of 50k AD.


But even now there are those who do pvp fights.
You all should check out discord server and in game custom chat under same name. There players from various guilds/alliances still do domination, 10 vs 10 and even GvG ( 20 vs 20) fights.. Though mostly for fun, as distraction from repeatable PvE grind.

Roar of the Pack
https://discord.gg/vtz2Xz2X8X

plasticbat

fuxion#7775 said:

Its much easier to just enable it . with few small changes

The easiest is to do nothing.

fuxion

plasticbat said:

fuxion#7775 said:

Its much easier to just enable it . with few small changes

The easiest is to do nothing.

Thanks for the support.

fethiyetours

Thanks for the update