Unbind Tokens

greywynd

What's the point of them if we can't unbind something worthwhile?

trinity706

To be able to say they did "something"? (even though that something is quite limited in it's capacity)

Wasn't even upset after buying a Tiamat's Arcane Globe and finding out it couldn't be unbound LoL. More so quite pleased now because it's currently going for over twice the amount paid.

Thought about suggesting character bound equipment being able to be unbound to account bound, then decided against it because it would go along with "create a problem and sell the solution".

melotai

I have used it a few times, works well on the forgehammer of gondor. I have 10 workshops so I was able to give each a Mythic forgehammer tool with one unbound artifact. Also, unbound a few of the older artifacts that I had worked on and sold them at the AH. (used to work well for Staff of Flowers and the Eye of Lathander and some other of the older artifacts.)

I am hoping they will allow you to unbind food items, scrolls of life and mass life and health stones at some point as those just keep piling up in my inventory. currently have no real use for any of it and I seem to get way more than I actually use. Pretty sure I still have BtC food items from 2019. Health stones kind of the same way as they seem to drop as often as scrolls of life or mass life but I do not do any content that requires stones of health as I have not the IL on my toons for the content where I would use them. (in general any master content)

Actually have plenty of use for scrolls of life but mine never show up as an available item to use so they just sit in my inventory and I refuse to use a scroll of mass life just to revive myself so the stuff pretty much rarely gets used.

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greywynd

It seems more like a case of "we gave you what you asked for. Don't blame us if you can't find anything to use them on."

Melotai, I've gotten so many Eyes over they years that all my characters have at least one. Any new ones tend to tossed out.

rockster

They said that it was too hard to unbind mounts and companions because of how they impact the overall stats of your account, but unfortunately that's exactly what needs to be unbound. If it can be calculated when added, it can be calculated when subtracted. It's just the will to do it is not there.

autumnwitch

For some of us old timers we have some old stuff that we want to either sell of give away. I have a stable of over 30 toons so being able to give them some hand me down stuff is amazing.

What I wish they would let is unbind is appearance items. I have some stuff pre-mod 16 and they just don't suit the character I have them on. (Like some of the ol dragon bone stuff from the dragon zones). I'd love to be able to sell or hell even give them away.

greywynd

rockster#6227 said:

They said that it was too hard to unbind mounts and companions because of how they impact the overall stats of your account, but unfortunately that's exactly what needs to be unbound. If it can be calculated when added, it can be calculated when subtracted. It's just the will to do it is not there.

I can understand that IF the comp/mount was already bound. But in the case of, oh, Elminster's Simulacrum, that comes BtA but hasn't yet been used, should be unbindable.

plasticbat

greywynd said:

rockster#6227 said:

They said that it was too hard to unbind mounts and companions because of how they impact the overall stats of your account, but unfortunately that's exactly what needs to be unbound. If it can be calculated when added, it can be calculated when subtracted. It's just the will to do it is not there.

I can understand that IF the comp/mount was already bound. But in the case of, oh, Elminster's Simulacrum, that comes BtA but hasn't yet been used, should be unbindable.

Hmmm! Elminster's Simulacrum is not bound.

greywynd

I'm aware, thanks. I was trying to think of something else and drew a blank, so grabbed that. I also happen to have one on a character that is bound and flagged as already opened, so there is that, as well.

The point I'm trying to make is that anything not directly nailed to the character that is bound, should be unbindable. I'm not talking about any of the reclaimables (artifacts, enchants, etc) or pulling a mount out of the stable/pasture, or companion out of the bunkhouse.

But how about the weapons from Vallenhas? There is absolutely no reason why those weapons are BoP. Of all the characters I have and all those weapons I've gotten, only my Warlock got the one he could use.

bluffy

I'd be happy if comps & mounts could be unbound from char, but remain bound to account. At least then I can use them.

darthpotater

Rings from MTOS, and other trials should be unbindable. So people can make profit selling them, and cryptic make profit selling unbind tokens. The economy must move, the AH is the best AD sink in the game but if there is nothing to sell, well you know.

The most player activity occurs when people can farm dungeons, everyone that is a veteran in this game knows this. People farmed dungeons like crazy, original castle never, malabog castle, etc. Then binding started to be a trend, and people only farmed new dungeons for themselves. Once they got what they wanted, was over.

TOMM changed this and people farmed it like crazy, selling rings and artifacts. Can someone tell me why this is not the norm? lot of people playing, organizing runs, training, etc. Unbinding tokens was a very good opportunity to make dungeon items sellable with a control on them (tokens) so it could be a win for everyone.

Why this is not the case? My unbinding tokens are taking dust, im not interested in sell old artifacts.

greywynd

bluffy#8585 said:

I'd be happy if comps & mounts could be unbound from char, but remain bound to account. At least then I can use them.

Which are two things that, once bound to a character, messes with things behind the curtain. Something that was pointed out when originally asked for, and explained as to why they can't be unbound.

rockster

in a digital world anything is possible if the will is there.

trinity706

Didn't want to start a new topic (might do so anyway lol).

Can there be an icon added to an artifact's tooltip/inspection window that indicates if it can be unbound? IYKYK

mintmark

Good idea... how many times do I right click to check the menu, then second guess that it's not showing me everything because it's protected, so I unprotect it and do it again, then re-protect it. Especially now that we have artifacts where some can be unbound and some can't...

trinity706

Got Tiamat's Arcane Globe for under 1kk back when it first came out and was disappointed to realize that it couldn't be unbound... Still haven't used it because of that.

Not sure why all non-reclaimable artifacts are not just unbindable by default now.

rclpo758

I came here specifically to provide this feedback.

"Thought about suggesting character bound equipment being able to be unbound to account bound..." trinity706

I think this is valid feedback. When my main character replaces a piece of gear that was difficult to farm, even though I have 8 other characters that can use it, all I can do is convert it to Appearance Library or Refinement Points. Such a waste. Restricting the unbinding to Account level also prevents affecting the economy because it can't be sold on the AH.

jana

I just found out I can unbind bound preservation wards and sell them, I did not know until today they can be unbound, As far as I can tell 1 preservation ward in each spot when refining is all you need and I had a ton of them.

plasticbat

jana#2651 said:

I just found out I can unbind bound preservation wards and sell them, I did not know until today they can be unbound, As far as I can tell 1 preservation ward in each spot when refining is all you need and I had a ton of them.

If you don't fail, you don't even need 1. However, refining can fail and can fail many times.

mintmark

Yes, and depending on what you're refining, you might be protecting three slots, so it can quickly add up.
Using motes helps, but it's reasonably often that it uses the max amount of attempts.

greywynd

Protecting 3 slots eats pres wards like candy. If you have to protect all 3 just use a Coal.