seal of the dragon are useless

orland1n

We only can buy gear to toon with you win the seal os the dragon,before 2 or 3 weeks are this useless,gear can be equiped on 2 classes BUT are bind on char on picked up, why this ??? why cant buy gear with seal of the dragon for another toons we have???? ** sry my english**

plasticbat

1. You also need seal of the dragon to get boons.
2. Each toon can earn its gear.

orland1n

How many seal of dreagon you have and not have what use it ??? i dont now why this change, yes each toon can earn it, but if i have 1500 seal useless i dont see problem to use it to buy gear to another of my toons

plasticbat

orland1n said:

How many seal of dreagon you have and not have what use it ??? i dont now why this change, yes each toon can earn it, but if i have 1500 seal useless i dont see problem to use it to buy gear to another of my toons

Just like the seal in the past, they were exchanged for AD eventually.

orland1n

how i say, useless

stryker80

I do not agree that these seals are useless.

I do, however, agree that the recent change to seals vendors was less than helpful. There were complaints here on the forums of "show me stuff for other classes" letting us buy bound to character equipment, which was useless. Rather than change the bind status to allow us to gear alts, they removed the option to buy for other classes. Booooooooo!

plasticbat

orland1n said:

how i say, useless

For me, it is as useless as the seals before that. Yes, it is useless after the boon.

Before, you may earn seal for gearing yourself up and then may be gearing the alt. After that, it is 'useless' because what you get will be AD.
Now, you earn seal to get the boon and may be gearing yourself up. After that, it is 'useless' because what you get will be AD.

However, for the 9 toon I play and gear to as best as I can, none of them has used the gear from seal of Dragon or seal of North regardless if it is bound to account or character. The gears themselves are also 'useless'. So, after the boon, the seal of Dragon is AD.

rockster

It was a huge mistake to change it so one character on an account cannot use seals to purchase gear for another character on that same account who is another class. You can share lots of different kinds of currency via the shared bank, but we're prevented from doing this with seals which are a very basic everyday currency as well. Double standards. I just read a comment from Trinity on another thread which I 200% agree with, it was this: "It's funny that when it comes to things that can really count (like campaign progression, account bound equipment being available), characters are treated separately and each have to essentially do it themselves, though when it comes to rewards they have to share... "
The Devs are leaving a nasty taste in the mouths of players by doing this type of thing. The direction they're heading in relating to alts is not going to make them many friends. The players who make alts are the ones who spend the most and stay the longest.

trinity706

Part of what is wild is that the dragon seal shirt and pants are BtA on pickup > BtC on equip... What sense does that make? Oh, right, this is Never-MAKES SENSE-winter…

Once again the devs seem to have been focusing on limiting characters on an account from being able to function collectively and keep pushing for them to function separately...

When Mod 24 (Northdark Reaches) was released and seeing that the seal equipment other than the shirt and pants weren’t transferable to other characters, personally decided that PER character; spending at a minimum 5-6 weeks running RTQ’s/ADQ’s simply for seal vendor equipment, completing a 10 week campaign, buying the 2 week head start pack from the Zen market (1500 Zen if not discounted) and or spending over 2 million AD on campaign equipment would be goofy as hell to do (no offense to those that have/will do any of those things on multiple characters).

From Mod 23-25 if all the campaign equipment pieces are purchased for one character (one for each slot, not including Mod 26 enchantments/insignias and including upgrading the Dark Maiden set) the total cost is over 6.1 million AD (6,175,000)… Now multiply that by 2, 4, 9…

The devs seem to feel that it is ok to increase the cost of equipping multiple characters aggressively and exponentially though don’t seem to keep anything even remotely close to that same energy when it comes to multiple characters on an account being able to effectively support each other… Not to mention regardless of what goes on ALL CHARACTERS HAVE TO SHARE A DAILY 100k RAD REFINING ALLOWANCE…

See how at just about every twist and turn players (especially those with multiple characters) are faced with various time gating and cash grab tactics?...

melotai

maybe they just needed a way to get more people to take their alts into random content. I know I never bothered with my alts at all and just stuck with my main and 2 primary dps until the change.

I only did it because all toons where in need of an update on equipment and everything in one of the mods was just better than what any of my toons had equipped.

Because of the change I have taken all of my alts into all randoms. Also, for my paladin never would have done any real tank type stuff at all unless I was forced into it and I somewhat was because I wanted to speed through RDQ and RTQ with that one.

mintmark

plasticbat said:

orland1n said:

how i say, useless

The gears themselves are also 'useless'. So, after the boon, the seal of Dragon is AD.

Perhaps I've missed something obvious... I can't see how to get AD from seals of the dragon.
All the gear is bound and there is no rough AD bag on the Misc tab (like there is for the previous seal).
But now I'm doubting myself and I should check again tonight...

trinity706

plasticbat said:

orland1n said:

how i say, useless

The gears themselves are also 'useless'. So, after the boon, the seal of Dragon is AD.

mintmark said:

Perhaps I've missed something obvious... I can't see how to get AD from seals of the dragon.

What plasticbat is referring to is the "Misc" tab at the seal trader where the previous seal currency (currently Seal of the North) can be traded in for 1k RAD.

plasticbat

mintmark said:

plasticbat said:

orland1n said:

how i say, useless

The gears themselves are also 'useless'. So, after the boon, the seal of Dragon is AD.

Perhaps I've missed something obvious... I can't see how to get AD from seals of the dragon.
All the gear is bound and there is no rough AD bag on the Misc tab (like there is for the previous seal).
But now I'm doubting myself and I should check again tonight...

My mistake. Seal of the Dragon cannot be exchanged to rAD until the new seal arrives.

ksell

plasticbat said:

Seal of the Dragon cannot be exchanged to rAD until the new seal arrives.

Thats actually my problem, cuz only high tier seals cant give AD directly.



This whole topic acyualy started since mod24 went live or even before, and gonna be repeted again in about 2 months, when we get another set of mistakes in first few week of new module.

In short, keep it alive until its gettin fix

irene

Seal of dragon is current random dungeon's top tier. So it doesn't make sense that 1 toon can farm it all for alts. Maybe in the next mod this will change.

It's like asking all maiden's mythic to be farmable for alts. It will shorten the lifespan of the game. When you log in there won't be any players to do your random dungeon or temple of spider. Don't underestimate RPG player's grind efforts. They can do it all in 1 day if the design allows.

trinity706

Previous mods had seal equipment that was account bound and BoE. Since Mod 24 the equipment is BoP for the most part (while the shirt and pants are BoA > BoE) and Seals of the dragon will STILL be the main seal in Mod 26, that's 3 mods with the SAME seal...

BoP seal equipment is trash in part because it sequesters characters on the same account from each other yet with campaign progress, additional characters tend to get a measly few pieces of gold for a number milestones even though they went through the same lengthy progress (10 week campaigns with no way to reduce the progress costs). They can't help each other with the main seal equipment though don't even get respectable rewards for going through the same campaigns...

Players would STILL do RQ's because they want the bonus rAD and the loot from the end chests, stating that there wouldn't be players for RQ's is quite false.