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chracters slots / races

adamoldman#1046 adamoldman
adamoldman#1046
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in General Discussion (PC)
I think the restriction in character races and characters slots at the beginning is unnecessary and bad marketing There should be a slot for each class . There's no reason to restrict them Character slots and races should be fundamentally free

Neverwinter need advantages to compete against other games If devs need more money , maybe should raise the prices on items or / bring new ones

Thank you for listening and understating

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  • plasticbatplasticbat Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 12,408 Arc User
    What do you mean by restriction in character races and character slots? There is no restriction. You mean you don't want to pay.
    *** The game can read your mind. If you want it, you won't get it. If you don't expect to get it, you will. ***
  • fritz#8093 fritz
    fritz#8093
         Member Posts: 439 Arc User
    Given the state of the current ZAX, character slots should be moved into the Bazaar. Don't think races need to he available. 400 ZEN isn't too bad, but you obviously have to wait a long time or use real cash.
  • greywyndgreywynd Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 7,152 Arc User
    Yeah, shame the company needs to make money, isn't it?
    I'm not looking for forgiveness, and I'm way past asking permission. Earth just lost her best defender, so we're here to fight. And if you want to stand in our way, we'll fight you too.
  • fritz#8093 fritz
    fritz#8093
         Member Posts: 439 Arc User
    edited April 2023
    greywynd said:

    Yeah, shame the company needs to make money, isn't it?

    Let's not do this every damn time. Neverwinter's free 2 play model depends on a working ZAX. Currently it's not a free-2-play title. I wouldn't have issues paying for a monthly sub that gives VIP perks, but character slots should be available for AD, especially since they're the main progression path for accounts these days. Everything else is bush league.

    My current recommendation is to build an alt account army with two slots each. I ain't waiting forever to buy slots on accounts. You can very well run a Gold and Invoking farm on multiple accounts. As bonus I got 300+ free keys and 12M AD from the login compensation recently and looks like Jubilee will hand 30 days of VIP for accounts as well. You can then gradually shut down accounts as the ZEN comes in from the ZAX and you're able to buy slots, preferably during a 50% sale.
  • plasticbatplasticbat Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 12,408 Arc User
    fritz#8093 said:

    greywynd said:

    Yeah, shame the company needs to make money, isn't it?

    Let's not do this every damn time. Neverwinter's free 2 play model depends on a working ZAX. Currently it's not a free-2-play title. I wouldn't have issues paying for a monthly sub that gives VIP perks, but character slots should be available for AD, especially since they're the main progression path for accounts these days. Everything else is bush league.

    My current recommendation is to build an alt account army with two slots each. I ain't waiting forever to buy slots on accounts. You can very well run a Gold and Invoking farm on multiple accounts. As bonus I got 300+ free keys and 12M AD from the login compensation recently and looks like Jubilee will hand 30 days of VIP for accounts as well. You can then gradually shut down accounts as the ZEN comes in from the ZAX and you're able to buy slots, preferably during a 50% sale.
    You are talking about $1.25 per character slot (if pay in full price) or $1 if you use a coupon.
    *** The game can read your mind. If you want it, you won't get it. If you don't expect to get it, you will. ***
  • fritz#8093 fritz
    fritz#8093
         Member Posts: 439 Arc User
    edited April 2023
    What difference does the price make? Either you're able to unlock them playing or paying. Currently you can only unlock them paying which means it's not a free-2-play feature. And you need lots of slots to get anywhere in this game.

    I think my ideal concept of monetization would be a sub (10$ per month) for VIP, ZEN for cosmetics, transmutes, fashion, illusions, etc. Gameplay and progression related stuff goes into the Bazaar.
  • plasticbatplasticbat Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 12,408 Arc User
    edited April 2023
    fritz#8093 said:

    What difference does the price make? Either you're able to unlock them playing or paying. Currently you can only unlock them paying which means it's not a free-2-play feature. And you need lots of slots to get anywhere in this game.

    Either you wait for Zax like me or you pay if you can't wait (if you want it in the same account).
    If you want something faster, pay.
    I have no problem to wait and I have tons of character slots. I also have no problem with Zax. Of course, I don't have a problem does not mean it is not a problem for others.
    They never claim extra slots is free-to-play feature.
    *** The game can read your mind. If you want it, you won't get it. If you don't expect to get it, you will. ***
  • fritz#8093 fritz
    fritz#8093
         Member Posts: 439 Arc User
    They don't have to claim anything. Free-2-play means all content and progression can be achieved by not spending anything. You can argue that's the case, it only takes years (literally) to get there. Technically it's true, but it's not reasonable. And that should factor in. Neverwinter is effectively a pay-to-play model.
  • plasticbatplasticbat Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 12,408 Arc User
    edited April 2023
    fritz#8093 said:

    They don't have to claim anything. Free-2-play means all content and progression can be achieved by not spending anything. You can argue that's the case, it only takes years (literally) to get there. Technically it's true, but it's not reasonable. And that should factor in. Neverwinter is effectively a pay-to-play model.

    "Technically, it's true" is what they have aimed for since day 1. The last thing they want is to allow people to do free-to-play easily.
    Post edited by plasticbat on
    *** The game can read your mind. If you want it, you won't get it. If you don't expect to get it, you will. ***
  • greywyndgreywynd Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 7,152 Arc User
    Free to play does not mean you get free access to every little thing that is in the game.
    I'm not looking for forgiveness, and I'm way past asking permission. Earth just lost her best defender, so we're here to fight. And if you want to stand in our way, we'll fight you too.
  • fritz#8093 fritz
    fritz#8093
         Member Posts: 439 Arc User
    greywynd said:

    Free to play does not mean you get free access to every little thing that is in the game.

    Unfortunately, yeah. The most popular and successful games stayed true to the original intent, but the market has shifted in a way that players do no longer get to experience true free-2-play and instead expect to pay for content and progression. Neverwinter and PWE have always been criticized for pushing the free-2-play boundaries beyond what's reasonable, even before the ZAX went mia and pushed the game into a pay-2-play / subscription model.
  • greywyndgreywynd Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 7,152 Arc User
    Except that they didn't.
    I'm not looking for forgiveness, and I'm way past asking permission. Earth just lost her best defender, so we're here to fight. And if you want to stand in our way, we'll fight you too.
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