PVP Is Completely Dead On Both PS4 and XBOX and Needs Help To Bring It Back.

trgluestickz

Xbox PVP died as soon as PVP seasons were removed and has stayed dead ever since.

PVP On PS4 remained alive for a little while after PVP seasons were taken out, but it died too a couple weeks later and has stayed dead.

On PC, the removal of PVP seasons resulted in PVP temporarily dieing out here too, but there was a huge community effort here to bring it back to life, which so far has been successful. The good news is that the PC PVP community has come back to life in a much less toxic healthier form than when seasons were a thing, kick voting is pretty much dead, flaming is much rarer, and the people here all playing PVP for its own sake, they don't do it for rewards. We are also doing a wider variety of PVP types than was possible to do when seasons were a thing, including manually balanced private 5vs5, tournaments, solo que, 1vs1s, and even occasional private gauntlgrym matches happen now. The PVP community on PC is smaller than it used to be when seasons were a thing and isn't able to pop as many matches as before, but PVP does still happen daily here. Some more good news is that the item level and amount of gear required to have a good time in PVP and be useful to your team has also been reduced significantly, this is because of the item level scaling system in PVP combined with private 5vs5s happening every other day now, the teams are being manually balanced by experienced players. With proper guidance on how to setup a good PVP build, it is now possible to PVP at only 29k IL, though you do still need a few specific fancy items in order for these builds to function well. The private 5vs5s, 1vs1s, and tournaments also now have broken item ban lists that the organizers enforce.

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It is possible to bring PVP back on all 3 platforms via community efforts. But I won't sugarcoat the amount of work it took to get PVP back on PC without any dev help. To bring PVP back to life on a platform using only community efforts, it requires at least 3 people with a lot of free time on their hands and a lot of PVP experience. It requires those 3 people to setup the infrastructure (discord and chat channel), recruit people to that infrastructure, and consistently organize/host PVP events really often, at least every other day. You also need to spam messages a lot to make sure people are aware of your events. It also requires you to go the extra mile to meet as many individual player's needs left and right as possible. The first few weeks of startup were hellish when I did this on PC, I was basically working a job for free, but if you stick to it long enough, it does stabilize and it does get better.

The devs need to chip in on bringing back PVP too, especially if nobody on consoles is willing to be a dedicated unpaid pack mule for an extended period of time.

I am considering extending a 6vs6s coaching project I'm working on to consoles, where experienced PVPers from any platform can coach teams in streamed PVP matches. This effectively outsources the shotcalling to players outside the match, which takes a lot of pressure off of the people inside the match and makes the directions clearer, which also leads to people picking up good rotating faster and having more fun.

However, that coaching project only can be applied to already alive PVP, I can't do the groundwork to bring matches back on consoles for them since I can't play on consoles.

trgluestickz

As a minor correction, there has been a little bit of private PVP on consoles after seasons were taken out, but its rare.