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highlyunstable
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I LOVE Neverwinter, and have played it since Mod 2. The greatest thrill I personally got was...
1.) I could play a variety of different characters AND get them all strong enough to play "all" content/Dungeons.
2.) I could not only see, but feel the progression towards being a "GOD" like toon.
3.) Playing this game was "Fun and Relaxing" after a hard day of work.
4.) My guild could train our guildmates in ToMM. Superstorm and Heatwave now kills most of them as our healers are not strong enough, which killed off all training. I would plan my entire weekend around this as I LOVED to train and run ToMM.
Those 4, for me personally are gone the way of the Foundry and "OLD" Sharandar as of the Update and Mod 20.
GIVE ME A REASON why I should "invest" in this game and not other games that other players are now playing.
I have 2 days left on my VIP rank 11.... and thus far no plans to renew. Looking for a Dev to tell me why I should, and how they are working on making this game great once again.
1.) I could play a variety of different characters AND get them all strong enough to play "all" content/Dungeons.
2.) I could not only see, but feel the progression towards being a "GOD" like toon.
3.) Playing this game was "Fun and Relaxing" after a hard day of work.
4.) My guild could train our guildmates in ToMM. Superstorm and Heatwave now kills most of them as our healers are not strong enough, which killed off all training. I would plan my entire weekend around this as I LOVED to train and run ToMM.
Those 4, for me personally are gone the way of the Foundry and "OLD" Sharandar as of the Update and Mod 20.
GIVE ME A REASON why I should "invest" in this game and not other games that other players are now playing.
I have 2 days left on my VIP rank 11.... and thus far no plans to renew. Looking for a Dev to tell me why I should, and how they are working on making this game great once again.
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If you don't care about new content or endgame trials, just slap any random gear and comps on and run scaled content. Doesn't matter what you have on as long as you have lower total il for the content.
There's nothing worth buying even if you're in the mood to buy!
Xael De Armadeon: DC
Xane De Armadeon: CW
Zen De Armadeon: OP
Zohar De Armadeon: TR
Chrion De Armadeon: SW
Gosti Big Belly: GWF
Barney McRustbucket: GF
Lt. Thackeray: HR
Lucius De Armadeon: BD
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Still you need to know war is your point in game, you wana be best in your class as dmg deler or best tank or heler, or you just wana have fun? ;D my personal point was be strongest hunter in game ;D
Loved the fact that I had an end game goal to chase with a clear path to get there. That clear path doesn't exist anymore. Sure I can bounce around my stats and %s and make things work well but I can't put into words to someone else how to get there and personally to sit down with a new toon I have 0 direction. Add gear, hope for the best -_-
I think the only point is disagree with is the fact that alts are very useful now. Even with no mythic pets/mounts they work well in many areas. My HR was probably my weakest toon(I have 1 of each class + + +) and he can do new campaigns with ease now.
Im pretty sure if you prepare the fight you wont have problems surviving. Is just that the stuff that used to work, need some tweaks.
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I am levelling up my mounts and companions and happy to pay nothing to enjoy the game and community of our Alliance. That should worry the owners of the business tbh.
1. You don't have to buy Coal wards anymore because enchantment and runestone upgrades no longer matter since barely qualifying for a zone will get you through it faster due to the scaling. Upgrading artifacts to highest level can easily be done using Pres wards.
2. Unless pull a good pet from dungeon chest you already have anything you want would want from the Zen store. I've pulled almost all of my best pets from chests with the exception of maybe 3 from the store. The Siege guy is one of the better ones for DPS IMO and I did buy him.
3. Most of the mounts in the Zen store are mediocre at best with maybe one or two exceptions.
4. Collars do help some, but you will never be able to upgrade to highest levels without botting dungeons 24/7 for a week or more straight because the drop rate for the refinement on them is absolutely horrible and I always reroll until I run out of chances. Hmmm.... maybe add those stupid things to the zen market.
5. Lockbox keys - Drop rate for legendary and mythic mounts are through the roof on lockboxes and the rest of the stuff with the exception of a few of the pets is now either useless or in the case of SH vouchers, not enough to warrant spending real life $$. These are the reasons I say useless. If a person has VIP it's easy to just bank the trade bars and wait to get mount and companion upgrade tokens. Also there are other sources for them like end chests. Refinement is so abundant in drops from kills why is it even in the lockboxes anymore. Runestones and normal enchantments are next to useless for item level and stats since the rework so useless. Last but not least...Reroll tokens. I have more of the things then I can could ever use since I get 3 daily on each toon. Yeah they are BTC but so what. For the love of all things holy why are they now there in a lockbox. If people need them and don't have VIP put them in the Zen store or for sale for AD's. That would at least get rid of some of the AD's in the game.
It's like in grocery store, you buy bread not investing in it
Now VIP and zen in general is optional game feature. No one was standing behind you and poke in back, telling you buy zen, get VIP, or any other item/service from zen store.
EIther you grind up to get stuffs, or you pick shortcut, for which you pay.. </div>
Now lets look yo each part of your comment.
Now who's holding you back, not getting all your alts strong enough to play all content/dungeons??
Due combat changes bonding runestones got removed, so I assume your toons where only good as long due stat creep. And due that your toons could walk over any dungeon without need to know mechanics.
The thing is now it's real character building, not what it where prior changes..
Again, question who's hold you back not to create own unique/ultimate build. With which you would walk through game as like god?
Other thing, what the point to have goodly toon?
Why simply not add dungeon > empty room an chest, no we skip combat immitation, just get in and claim reward. ( sorry for sarcasm).
In mod 15, at that time end game content ( CODG) the boss fight by average lasted ~5s.
And players started BEG devs to give them a real challenge. Entire alliances left game cuz they where so boredd.
So I assume your need to have "godly" toon is just so you mock other players.. ( I could use other wordings but due rules replaced them).
Yes it was relaxing.. Here is clip from one streamer which clearly showed how relaxed you could be in this game..
https://clips.twitch.tv/TangibleAntsyAlmondStrawBeary
Again question, whos hold back to not train?
“The masses have never thirsted after truth. Whoever can supply them with illusions is easily their master; whoever attempts to destroy their illusions is always their victim.
Gustave Le Bon.
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If it's literally worth running everything including your ToMM these issues would be much less severe in my opinion. The new content most of the time alone just isn't enough, simply because it's impossible to resonate with everyone.
I personally still play such content 1 or 2 hours like every other day or during weekends, even if I only lose AD due to rerolls for fun and to relax. But I can definitely see how that isn't enough for a lot of people. Trials are harder to organize unfortunately, this has always been an issue for people without a huge endgame guild, alliance or friends though.
Or to help them to get through content. We pretty much everyone who wanted through IC and previous endgame dungeons, even if they were underprepared for it. In Tomm people were pulled from training run groups, since at least 2 or 3 DPS were "godly" enough this wasn't really a problem. Being god also means to give. It's always nice to have a successful run under your belt, even if their character wasn't quite punching above their weight yet. Good tanks and healers also had an easier time to turn the table or make up for a lack of DPS. Personally I had a paladin build that didn't sacrifice too much and had somewhat decent DPS, but with the current "build diversity" it's simply not viable anymore. Of course many also ran companions which were slightly overperforming, but that was still one "godly" tank or healer more to fill the REQ which usually popped around at least 10x faster for (single) DPS and up to 10x for a DPS plus healer or tank from my experience.
That's the other side of it.
To buy stuff to develop toons atm is too expensive, plys tomm and zariel that many like are boring as... For me putting Lomm as the last nice new stuff i played...
My play tim dropped from 1 or 2 hpurs each day to 1or 2 a week...
New dung could be fun but not incluned to put all my stuff in pets that will be nerfed later just for this dung in 1 toon...
And then when players get in dungeon on their own, then they all rage quit cuz no one know mechanics, no one even know how play game. All get used to get in dungeon > /follow_ group, and claim rewards.
And then you have forum full of complains that run with pugs is dissaster. It is in such way, cuz lot of players where tought to play in this way( follow top player who clear dungeon for group).
Combat changes brough Neverwinter to it's original combat version.. And this clearly show that most players lack combat experience. They all get used for easy mode gameplay. And when they get in harder situation they start panic and rage.
Got in pug group, after first fail in second boss fight,((IC), party start quiting. Or like via random dungeon q we got in CR and party quiting in very start.. Same about ToNG. Most players get used, either they OWNING dungeons. If they don't, then they ragequit.
As for that now we lack diversity.. thats is biggest lie.
With current combat I can play how I want. I want go close range? I can go, I want stay as long rage I can do that too.
Current system gives more freedom in creativity than before.. Only ones who are clueless about it, would say that we lack diversity.. You can go as dps/heal hybrid what you could not do before..
Even tanks. YOu have no idea that with certain builds you can make paladin a good dps.. Not in ToMM or zariel. But in other content rather well dps..
“The masses have never thirsted after truth. Whoever can supply them with illusions is easily their master; whoever attempts to destroy their illusions is always their victim.
Gustave Le Bon.
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1.) "INVEST" means I am buying something that will/should last... as in, Artifacts, mounts, companions, runestones, enchantments. BREAD is "consumed" my companions/mounts/enchants are NOT consumed. FACT.
2.) I play this game, unlike you, to actually get more Powerful. Isn't this why we "want" better gear, mounts, companions???
To be a "God" is what a lot of us work towards, as some will tell you, it Benefits MY GUILD that I can help them complete ToMM/ZCM/LoMM etc. If no one had very powerful toons, completing a lot of content would not be possible. FACT.
3.) What is stopping me from having an ALt not be a "hard carry" through ToMM/ZCM/VOS is AD. it would take almost 50 Million AD to get my Hunter to the Level of my Warlock. YES I DID THE MATH... it would take that.
4.) I have NEVER just relied on pure power, nor could you for End Game content. You HAVE to know the mechanics or you will NOT succeed. Sure, I carry a lot of players through ToMM/ZCM because they are still learning the Mechanics, but... it you die alot, and have a group with LOW DPS, you will NEVER complete anything. you NEED Strong players.. FACT.
5.) it is obvious that you don't play any end game content. Have you tried to get a group of weak Healers and Tanks through ToMM or Zarial??? It cannot be done...Period. What is the sense of just getting them though P1 with no hope to get to P3 or P4??? I have DPS/Healers and Tanks that have seen P3 a few months ago, but now, we cannot get through P1 without most have 3 or 4 death stacks. FACT. Now, most of them do not want to waste their time just doing P1 over, and over, and over and over.
6.) Being able to quickly run some dungeons IS NEEDED to a lot of us as..... some of us have a "life" and cannot spend hours and hours and hours trying to just get one completion. We want to get into the game, gets some chest, AD, whatever, and then log off. I love this game, but it is NOT MY LIFE... I want to play, but am limited on time. If I played "your way" there would be no reason to play at all except to just run in circles in PE... oh boy, so much fun!!!!
“The masses have never thirsted after truth. Whoever can supply them with illusions is easily their master; whoever attempts to destroy their illusions is always their victim.
Gustave Le Bon.
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Especially when the rewards from the new campaign are beyond less than lackluster. I don't want transmutes, boon points don't really mean anything anymore as they don't give il, and the stats they give are pretty low. Aditionally the ad rewards should be claimable on all toons that make it there just like Undermountain, not turn into a lowly 5 gp, of which I have gobs of anyhow and nothing worthwhile to spend it on...
Now Hadestemplar, the point I am making is.... I once put money into this game, so that I could play multiple characters at a high level. I did NOT buy a level 70 and then put on all the BiS gear etc... I actually played them from level 1 and learned "HOW" to play them well. I get tired of playing just one character.... it is comparable to, IMO, eating the same thing every night for a year. Sooner or later you will get tired of it. Lots of us want to play different characters but yet, still do the content of our main, BUT..... it is just to costly now, both time and money wise.
Yes, prior to this update, all I had to do was throw on my R15 Bondings to the next toon I wanted to play and bam... I could run all the hard stuff but... I had acquired all the gear/weapons/enchants the hard way by grinding for them. THAT made me want to play AND spend money on this game.
Imagine if a Steak restaurant did this same business move as Cryptic.... No matter what size you ordered your steak ( 6oz/8oz/12oz/18oz) they always gave you the 6oz at the 18oz price. Why the heck would you bother spending money at that place when the restaurant next door has the same food for cheaper???
This is my only complaint... no matter how much time or money I put into this game, I will always have a mediocre Toon, and what is so wrong with having a "Epic-Godlike" Toon????? Why is it you and Cryptic sees that as a bad thing?? Not to mention the scaling argument.
Choices is what makes life and gaming awesome. The more choices, the better. Right now, unless you are rich, or, have no life and can play all day long every day, you are "restricted" to playing ONE character only at a decently high level. Just saying.
My 3 'mains' are between 41-45k and the other 6 are between 28-33k. It is very time consuming gearing up more than one and always feels like a 'work-in-progress'. At times I've had to spend a few weeks focusing resources on just one character to boost it past some 'plateau' so it can run specific content - but then I feel bored with it as I've spent so much extra time on it xD
Xael De Armadeon: DC
Xane De Armadeon: CW
Zen De Armadeon: OP
Zohar De Armadeon: TR
Chrion De Armadeon: SW
Gosti Big Belly: GWF
Barney McRustbucket: GF
Lt. Thackeray: HR
Lucius De Armadeon: BD
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