Experience of a horrified lvl 80 wiz

dragnipura

Reading about all the changes, I figured I will do a test run on the preview server to experience the changes first-hand. Please do realise I am a casual player; I have some BIS but not everything. For me it is more the experience of playing than aiming for the endgame dungeons.
Boy am I disappointed.

First, I am a lvl 80 wizard. That class has been in a bad spot for a long, long time. Which is strange because it is one of the principal base classes and should be on par with the others. The class is just not loved by the developers which is sad and a bad work attitude. But many threads have been written about this.

After importing my character and applying the same layout (as far as possible) I was shocked. Every main stat I have went down, e.g., my power was reduced from 119,287 to 23.932 (80%). Accuracy from 78,218 to 26.060 (47.3%). That horrified me.

I figured I play a short campaign quest (Reptilian Extraction, Acquisitions Incorporated) to experience the new situation. On the legacy server it is a breeze. However, it felt like I was levelling all over again on the preview server. I feel so, so weak. The damage output of my character is horrible.

If this is how it is going to be, I am going to leave the game. On would expect that the overhaul at least provides some advantages to players, but I really do not see any for me at all. In my opinion these changes aren’t thought through, only designed to have players invest more money and remove all fun from the game.

Just my 2 cents.

googoots

Just watched Northside's stream from yesterday. Ivy wizard's damage was terrible. THIS IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH. We Wizards have been asking for our class to be fixed for a looooong time now, and not a SINGLE word from the developers or acknowledgement.
I'm mad, and I'm not one to loose my temper easily. If the update drops and our class is still in this state, I'm gone.

eladonwarps

Comparing old numbers to new ones isn't that helpful because the whole scale is reworked. But I do agree with you. I see most combat from low level to high taking 3 to 5 times longer than current live, and nowhere are the rewards worth the time. It takes so much investment to offset that that it's nauseating to play.

The one thing I like is the percentage display, even if I still don't understand the "other sources" yet. But if the enemy defensive stats and/or HP are not adjusted significantly across the entire game, I'm not staying either.

mangodajango

I haven't played once since trying my hunter on PTR. What the hell is the point, they are taking me down to 20% of the damage I was doing on live.

elderislt

googoots said:

Just watched Northside's stream from yesterday. Ivy wizard's damage was terrible. THIS IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH. We Wizards have been asking for our class to be fixed for a looooong time now, and not a SINGLE word from the developers or acknowledgement.
I'm mad, and I'm not one to loose my temper easily. If the update drops and our class is still in this state, I'm gone.

how wizard do dmg ???
mob have 100% hp , i go fast and do 40 % dmg, another dps do 40% and for wizard left only 20% dmg to make its becose if you wana have highd demage numbers in paingiver you need ruch and do so much dmg as you can.
another thing— i can do 200k dmg in 1 sec, wizard need like 4 +- 3 sec to make this 200k dmg.
+ cost time to spell, its take time for wizard cast spell, then my hunter need only 1 sec to cast encounter and do dmg,
+ so with wizard is alll gud just harder do dmg becose of cast tiem

midsummer

elderislt#1066 said:

googoots said:

Just watched Northside's stream from yesterday. Ivy wizard's damage was terrible. THIS IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH. We Wizards have been asking for our class to be fixed for a looooong time now, and not a SINGLE word from the developers or acknowledgement.
I'm mad, and I'm not one to loose my temper easily. If the update drops and our class is still in this state, I'm gone.

how wizard do dmg ???
mob have 100% hp , i go fast and do 40 % dmg, another dps do 40% and for wizard left only 20% dmg to make its becose if you wana have highd demage numbers in paingiver you need ruch and do so much dmg as you can.
another thing— i can do 200k dmg in 1 sec, wizard need like 4 +- 3 sec to make this 200k dmg.
+ cost time to spell, its take time for wizard cast spell, then my hunter need only 1 sec to cast encounter and do dmg,
+ so with wizard is alll gud just harder do dmg becose of cast tiem

May be correct when running with you, however from what i see on my screen, tells me my numbers are much smaller ie: 1200 -2400 at a time. just did a run with 1 other person and was still 2.5 mil less then them in the master of the hunt.

midsummer

midsummer#6434 said:

elderislt#1066 said:

googoots said:

Just watched Northside's stream from yesterday. Ivy wizard's damage was terrible. THIS IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH. We Wizards have been asking for our class to be fixed for a looooong time now, and not a SINGLE word from the developers or acknowledgement.
I'm mad, and I'm not one to loose my temper easily. If the update drops and our class is still in this state, I'm gone.

how wizard do dmg ???
mob have 100% hp , i go fast and do 40 % dmg, another dps do 40% and for wizard left only 20% dmg to make its becose if you wana have highd demage numbers in paingiver you need ruch and do so much dmg as you can.
another thing— i can do 200k dmg in 1 sec, wizard need like 4 +- 3 sec to make this 200k dmg.
+ cost time to spell, its take time for wizard cast spell, then my hunter need only 1 sec to cast encounter and do dmg,
+ so with wizard is alll gud just harder do dmg becose of cast tiem

May be correct when running with you, however from what i see on my screen, tells me my numbers are much smaller ie: 1200 -2400 at a time. just did a run with 1 other person and was still 2.5 mil less then them in the master of the hunt.

and additionally the OP wasn't running with you.

elderislt

midsummer#6434 said:

elderislt#1066 said:

googoots said:

Just watched Northside's stream from yesterday. Ivy wizard's damage was terrible. THIS IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH. We Wizards have been asking for our class to be fixed for a looooong time now, and not a SINGLE word from the developers or acknowledgement.
I'm mad, and I'm not one to loose my temper easily. If the update drops and our class is still in this state, I'm gone.

how wizard do dmg ???
mob have 100% hp , i go fast and do 40 % dmg, another dps do 40% and for wizard left only 20% dmg to make its becose if you wana have highd demage numbers in paingiver you need ruch and do so much dmg as you can.
another thing— i can do 200k dmg in 1 sec, wizard need like 4 +- 3 sec to make this 200k dmg.
+ cost time to spell, its take time for wizard cast spell, then my hunter need only 1 sec to cast encounter and do dmg,
+ so with wizard is alll gud just harder do dmg becose of cast tiem

May be correct when running with you, however from what i see on my screen, tells me my numbers are much smaller ie: 1200 -2400 at a time. just did a run with 1 other person and was still 2.5 mil less then them in the master of the hunt.

stilll keep inf mind , on previe % is important to make dmg

midsummer

elderislt#1066 said:

midsummer#6434 said:

elderislt#1066 said:

googoots said:

Just watched Northside's stream from yesterday. Ivy wizard's damage was terrible. THIS IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH. We Wizards have been asking for our class to be fixed for a looooong time now, and not a SINGLE word from the developers or acknowledgement.
I'm mad, and I'm not one to loose my temper easily. If the update drops and our class is still in this state, I'm gone.

how wizard do dmg ???
mob have 100% hp , i go fast and do 40 % dmg, another dps do 40% and for wizard left only 20% dmg to make its becose if you wana have highd demage numbers in paingiver you need ruch and do so much dmg as you can.
another thing— i can do 200k dmg in 1 sec, wizard need like 4 +- 3 sec to make this 200k dmg.
+ cost time to spell, its take time for wizard cast spell, then my hunter need only 1 sec to cast encounter and do dmg,
+ so with wizard is alll gud just harder do dmg becose of cast tiem

May be correct when running with you, however from what i see on my screen, tells me my numbers are much smaller ie: 1200 -2400 at a time. just did a run with 1 other person and was still 2.5 mil less then them in the master of the hunt.

stilll keep inf mind , on previe % is important to make dmg

Keep in mind i am not a beginner player either ... and not playing with garbage gear or companions.... i will say it again the Wiz is broken ... very broken

quipaunas

elderislt#1066 said:

googoots said:

Just watched Northside's stream from yesterday. Ivy wizard's damage was terrible. THIS IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH. We Wizards have been asking for our class to be fixed for a looooong time now, and not a SINGLE word from the developers or acknowledgement.
I'm mad, and I'm not one to loose my temper easily. If the update drops and our class is still in this state, I'm gone.

how wizard do dmg ???
mob have 100% hp , i go fast and do 40 % dmg, another dps do 40% and for wizard left only 20% dmg to make its becose if you wana have highd demage numbers in paingiver you need ruch and do so much dmg as you can.
another thing— i can do 200k dmg in 1 sec, wizard need like 4 +- 3 sec to make this 200k dmg.
+ cost time to spell, its take time for wizard cast spell, then my hunter need only 1 sec to cast encounter and do dmg,
+ so with wizard is alll gud just harder do dmg becose of cast tiem

elderislt is correct, Wizards/Thaumaturge have to wait for casting time (fireball is 1.5 sec), then wait for ticks to kick in (smolder/rimfire), then chill stacks to get shatter, to build up damage... and then the cooldown time is 13-18 seconds for encounters. So often when in a group, things are dead before my fireball goes out. At least we should get feats to speed up chill stacks and/or the ability to grown smolder/rimfire damage over time so maybe in very long fights, we can contribute some damage.