Refining fail ?

finalfantasyac7

Has refining been nerfed because upgrading from R12 to R13 enchantment with 3% chance for success didn't took me more than 30 p.wards few mods ago and now i wasted more than 100 p.wards with no success.

jeremytheman232

I never used coal wards besides weap and armor enchs. I sold some enchs anf got lower ones and i cant get the new 1s up. Very annoying. Struggled to go from 10 to 12 took a few hundred wards then i gave up ill buy them at 13 cheaper

sandukutupu

PC player here, hello XB1.

My DC last week blew through 40 preservation wards on a 10% upgrade. I have tested the random and found it is "streaky", like scratch off tickets. Think of it like this; You have a roll of 250 tickets, odds printed on the back say 1 in 6 is a winner. So they print 42 winners on the roll, but they are in clusters. This means you could go through a lot of losers before you hit the cluster.

I ran a simple test about a year ago upgrading 60% chance refinements. You have to run a lot to see the clusters but they do exist. Anything with a 3% or 1% chance I would buy a coalescent ward to do that.

poisd2strike

I used in the low 40's Pres wards to upgrade an Artifact from Epic to Legendary (10%) the last time I upgraded to Legendary. Last night, I upgraded an Artifact from Legendary to Mythic (5%) and only used 4 Pres Wards. RNG is RNG.

autumnwitch

poisd2strike#7598 said:

I used in the low 40's Pres wards to upgrade an Artifact from Epic to Legendary (10%) the last time I upgraded to Legendary. Last night, I upgraded an Artifact from Legendary to Mythic (5%) and only used 4 Pres Wards. RNG is RNG.

At ten percent you have a 1 in 10 chance to get it. Four Pres Wards is within what you would expect.

That being said, I had a 60% chance in an enchant upgrade and gave up after 30 wards the other day.

Today I went through 11 skill kits to open a box that said 75%. That means three out of four times I would expect to get it. It also means one in four times I won't. If you do the maths there its a 1 in over 4 MILLION chance that I would not miss it that many times. Please, Neverwinter RNG is not real RNG it's slot machine RNG lol

athrogate

I dont count the pres wards when refining as it leads to frustration and me getting pissed and upset with the game along with me always stating I would never in a million years pay actual money to buy any type of ward. In the past I have always gone with the logic that if 3% use Pres wards and use Coal wards for 1%. However, due to recent frustration with refining upgrades I have updated logic to 5% pres wards and coal wars for both 1% and 3%. I now have less anger issues and seem to be more relaxed

poisd2strike

autumnwitch said:

poisd2strike#7598 said:

I used in the low 40's Pres wards to upgrade an Artifact from Epic to Legendary (10%) the last time I upgraded to Legendary. Last night, I upgraded an Artifact from Legendary to Mythic (5%) and only used 4 Pres Wards. RNG is RNG.

At ten percent you have a 1 in 10 chance to get it. Four Pres Wards is within what you would expect.

That being said, I had a 60% chance in an enchant upgrade and gave up after 30 wards the other day.

Today I went through 11 skill kits to open a box that said 75%. That means three out of four times I would expect to get it. It also means one in four times I won't. If you do the maths there its a 1 in over 4 MILLION chance that I would not miss it that many times. Please, Neverwinter RNG is not real RNG it's slot machine RNG lol

Going to Legendary (10%) took over 40 Pres Wards. Going to Mythic (5%) took only 4.