Show of hands...

kvet

Who expects to complete Storming the Castle next week now that it can't be completed via a private queue? Just curious...

adinosii

No private queues will basically mean that nobody will bother with this quest..... one less thing to do.

rifter1969

Well there goes another one.

durgan

Let's see now. Do a public one, which is where the pvp'ers gank people in normal builds? What FUN! Seriously, of all the things to do, they decided to fix the one thing what wasn't broken. More fool I, for having supported this game financially, when all they've done in the past month is take away the things worth doing.

mynaam

They always imply they do not have the resources to fix things fast but have resources for something like this.

Sadly i cannot see many do this again. It is a shame since it was a nice way for people to be introduced to pvp in a safe controlled environment.

bjbrunt

mynaam said:

They always imply they do not have the resources to fix things fast but have resources for something like this.

Sadly i cannot see many do this again. It is a shame since it was a nice way for people to be introduced to pvp in a safe controlled environment.

It is still an introduction to pvp in a safe controlled environment, it just doesn't provide the rewards that have been given up until now. I'm not a pvp'er, so I most likely won't be running this unless I am extremely bored, or if someone wants to run it to get a feel for it because they want to try it "for real".

It may take longer to run, but not likely if you get put in with players who have pvp builds/loadouts. They won't have much trouble taking out the average group rather quickly.

stormhowler

Sorry, meant to post this in a different forum. As to the OP, nope, probably never again, as it has become useless afaic.

minotaur2857

Another thing to do gone, most PvE players want nothing to do with the bunch of smacktalking 12 year olds (at least by behaviour) that seem to frequent PvP. Private queues were the way round this.

The only changes they seem to want to make are the ones that say "spend moar real money", rather than things like the calendar fix that are actually important to the players.

All this will do is encourage people to do is to lose afk unless the other side is doing this

snotty

well, this is one way to deal with the lag issue that stopped everyone from running 20v20 STC in the first place. Pretty smart I must say, instead of fixing the lag issue they just made it so no one will want to run it. Problem solved.

cdnbison

durgan#5731 said:

Let's see now. Do a public one, which is where the pvp'ers gank people in normal builds? What FUN! Seriously, of all the things to do, they decided to fix the one thing what wasn't broken. More fool I, for having supported this game financially, when all they've done in the past month is take away the things worth doing.

As opposed to having one person sit on the other team while you basically coast to a 5k RP, 4500 rAD, and a weekly worth of campaing currency? If it's so terrible to not get handed an easy in win Siege, don't do it. If it's as lopsided as you say, it'll be over quickly, and you'll still get the same rewards.

instynctive

StC has been a weekly guild activity for us. Sure sometimes we'd do it the "easy" way, but we also ran it for real... and it was more fun than a random PvP queue.

It provided us with a great deal of camaraderie and community-building (after StC, we'd run big SH HEs, RAQs, whatever), and it was a fun time.

But thanks for taking that away.

jade1280

Yes i do feel personally victimized by Regina Johne's

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checkmatein3

For me, Stronghold Seige is reverting back to its position in my weekly priority as it had before it had rewards of the kind now, which is to say, I will ignore it. I am happy I used it for the easy refine points, Astral Diamonds, and Campaign currency up until now, and that I don't care enough to complain about losing the opportunity to grind out the same rewards in meaningless PvP.

reg1981

So we're back to the old way of timing queue pops like when edemo came out. Wait for the queue to pop and if it pops for both leaders they tell their groups to accept... But this does make it so you must have full groups premade ready to go.

demonmonger

Wait what... who said this is going away

greywynd

It isn't going away. It can no longer be done privately.

talifeexpectancy

I dunno how busy SH seige is on PC, but on console it will still essentially be a private qeue simply by forming a q group then telling everyone to qeue public after leaving the q group, as SH seige is completely dead anyway (even by low pop pvp standards). Then just pick a team to win. And before you say it, no this wouldnt be an exploit. You are playing within the confines of the qeue system and arent glitching anything.

What a bone headed, transparent AF change for cryptic to make. #KeepLosing #DontBuyZen

earlgreybeard

#SHS4U

custom channel
bring your guildies and alliance friends!

gazes at shoes momentarily..

MY HR is a psychic elf, told me he saw this in a dream.

bruce55

I didn't do it for the ad or rp, mainly did it on alts for much needed influence for the guild. Almost everything they are doing in the new mod affects guilds neg. making ad harder to get, and people will be spending all their excess campaign currency on ad instead of donating to guild coffer.

callumf

bruce55 said:

I didn't do it for the ad or rp, mainly did it on alts for much needed influence for the guild. Almost everything they are doing in the new mod affects guilds neg. making ad harder to get, and people will be spending all their excess campaign currency on ad instead of donating to guild coffer.

Wait... you will be able to swap excess campaign currency for Astral Diamonds?

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plasticbat

callumf#9018 said:

bruce55 said:

I didn't do it for the ad or rp, mainly did it on alts for much needed influence for the guild. Almost everything they are doing in the new mod affects guilds neg. making ad harder to get, and people will be spending all their excess campaign currency on ad instead of donating to guild coffer.

Wait... you will be able to swap excess campaign currency for Astral Diamonds?

Yes. You can use some to buy gear to salvage. Don't bother with black ice though because what you buy using black ice will be salvaged back to less black ice.

rifter1969

plasticbat said:

callumf#9018 said:

bruce55 said:

I didn't do it for the ad or rp, mainly did it on alts for much needed influence for the guild. Almost everything they are doing in the new mod affects guilds neg. making ad harder to get, and people will be spending all their excess campaign currency on ad instead of donating to guild coffer.

Wait... you will be able to swap excess campaign currency for Astral Diamonds?

Yes. You can use some to buy gear to salvage. Don't bother with black ice though because what you buy using black ice will be salvaged back to less black ice.

I thought it was a "sack" of ADs... like what the Seal of the Adventurer vendor has?

plasticbat

rifter1969 said:

plasticbat said:

callumf#9018 said:

bruce55 said:

I didn't do it for the ad or rp, mainly did it on alts for much needed influence for the guild. Almost everything they are doing in the new mod affects guilds neg. making ad harder to get, and people will be spending all their excess campaign currency on ad instead of donating to guild coffer.

Wait... you will be able to swap excess campaign currency for Astral Diamonds?

Yes. You can use some to buy gear to salvage. Don't bother with black ice though because what you buy using black ice will be salvaged back to less black ice.

I thought it was a "sack" of ADs... like what the Seal of the Adventurer vendor has?

That too but I think salvage is a better deal (if salvage is possible). Of course, in mod 15, salvage will be removed. Hence, salvage is moot for the next mod.

rifter1969

Yeah, because i looked on preview, and saw the campaign store items for those AD exchanges... but those aren't on live just yet, and i think they will roll out with mod15.

callumf

plasticbat said:

callumf#9018 said:

bruce55 said:

I didn't do it for the ad or rp, mainly did it on alts for much needed influence for the guild. Almost everything they are doing in the new mod affects guilds neg. making ad harder to get, and people will be spending all their excess campaign currency on ad instead of donating to guild coffer.

Wait... you will be able to swap excess campaign currency for Astral Diamonds?

Yes. You can use some to buy gear to salvage. Don't bother with black ice though because what you buy using black ice will be salvaged back to less black ice.

@plasticbat I have been around a couple of years now and I must be missing something - what can you get which is salavageable from campaign currency other than Barovian Coins into Armour?

I'm not being picky or aggressive, just cant see how this works for, say Dread Ring campaign currency

kvet

callumf#9018 said:

@plasticbat I have been around a couple of years now and I must be missing something - what can you get which is salavageable from campaign currency other than Barovian Coins into Armour?

I'm not being picky or aggressive, just cant see how this works for, say Dread Ring campaign currency

Nothing from Dread Ring, Sharandar, or ToD/Wod, and River District the campaign store stuff isn't salvageable and the Maze Engine stuff is for transmutes, and EE doesn't have a store. However, SKT stuff is, IWD (for black ice...), Underdark, Chult, and Ravenloft all have salvageable options you can get in the campaign store.

callumf

kvet said:

callumf#9018 said:

@plasticbat I have been around a couple of years now and I must be missing something - what can you get which is salavageable from campaign currency other than Barovian Coins into Armour?

I'm not being picky or aggressive, just cant see how this works for, say Dread Ring campaign currency

Nothing from Dread Ring, Sharandar, or ToD/Wod, and River District the campaign store stuff isn't salvageable and the Maze Engine stuff is for transmutes, and EE doesn't have a store. However, SKT stuff is, IWD (for black ice...), Underdark, Chult, and Ravenloft all have salvageable options you can get in the campaign store.

Thanks amigo nice one

I hadnt thought of SKT/Underdark/IWD stuff in that way at all. Never occured to me!

plasticbat

callumf#9018 said:

kvet said:

callumf#9018 said:

@plasticbat I have been around a couple of years now and I must be missing something - what can you get which is salavageable from campaign currency other than Barovian Coins into Armour?

I'm not being picky or aggressive, just cant see how this works for, say Dread Ring campaign currency

Nothing from Dread Ring, Sharandar, or ToD/Wod, and River District the campaign store stuff isn't salvageable and the Maze Engine stuff is for transmutes, and EE doesn't have a store. However, SKT stuff is, IWD (for black ice...), Underdark, Chult, and Ravenloft all have salvageable options you can get in the campaign store.

Thanks amigo nice one

I hadnt thought of SKT/Underdark/IWD stuff in that way at all. Never occured to me!

SKT gear needs restore (I believe). Hence, it is not feasible. You can get ring though.
IWD gives a 'salvageable' but you cannot get rAD by salvaging them. What you get is raw Black Ice. i.e. You use a big amount of refined black ice to buy the gear. What you salvage back is a tiny amount of rough Black ice. Hence, pointless.
Underdark, Chult and Ravenloft are feasible.
SH store also has something but it may not be worthwhile. Fang -> seal -> gear -> salvage is still feasible.

mynaam

bjbrunt#4365 said:

mynaam said:

They always imply they do not have the resources to fix things fast but have resources for something like this.

Sadly i cannot see many do this again. It is a shame since it was a nice way for people to be introduced to pvp in a safe controlled environment.

It is still an introduction to pvp in a safe controlled environment, it just doesn't provide the rewards that have been given up until now. I'm not a pvp'er, so I most likely won't be running this unless I am extremely bored, or if someone wants to run it to get a feel for it because they want to try it "for real".

It may take longer to run, but not likely if you get put in with players who have pvp builds/loadouts. They won't have much trouble taking out the average group rather quickly.

As public there is no chance to get in, it takes hours to pop and well only safe if you live in a dinosaur's lair