Class changing token - will we see one of them?

justmarionette

Hello everyone,
I have a question about class changing.
Badly remember that at the beginning of the game release with OP appearance, there was "Class changing tokens"
The question is - will we see them again? >:)
(The main reason for such a question in the boring and endless farming for nothing in end-game content?
I mean players usually need a few weeks or a month to get almost everything they want, then everyone supposes to run same dunges and campaign)

p.s. I love this game and make really good friends here, but we are tired and don't want to leave this game!

helric9

This is the worst idea ever

justmarionette

> @helric9 said:
> This is the worst idea ever

Why so?

zephyriah

justmarionette#6941 said:

Hello everyone,
I have a question about class changing.
Badly remember that at the beginning of the game release with OP appearance, there was "Class changing tokens"
The question is - will we see them again? >:)
(The main reason for such a question in the boring and endless farming for nothing in end-game content?
I mean players usually need a few weeks or a month to get almost everything they want, then everyone supposes to run same dunges and campaign)

p.s. I love this game and make really good friends here, but we are tired and don't want to leave this game!

You remember incorrectly. There have never been class changing tokens and I suspect it is unlikely there ever will.

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wintersmoke

justmarionette#6941 said:

Hello everyone,
I have a question about class changing.
Badly remember that at the beginning of the game release with OP appearance, there was "Class changing tokens"
The question is - will we see them again? >:)
(The main reason for such a question in the boring and endless farming for nothing in end-game content?
I mean players usually need a few weeks or a month to get almost everything they want, then everyone supposes to run same dunges and campaign)

p.s. I love this game and make really good friends here, but we are tired and don't want to leave this game!

Start a new toon. Don't mail him any "helpful" item. Boredom solved.

frogwalloper

Are you thinking of the race reroll token, perhaps?
Which is pretty expensive, I think. It's a lot cheaper to purchase a pair of character slots and start new classes.
And it's a lot more fun. You get to play all the beginning content again.

justmarionette

Guys, thnx for replies but do u really understand what does it mean?
spend another year to create a toon..
no way

kreatyve

There has never been a "class changing token" nor will there ever be. Due to how the equipment system is in Neverwinter, you would have to get all new gear anyway. If you want to play a different class, your only choice is to make a new character. They added the Patron Token system to save some of the headache of the campaigns. You can send enchants over to the new character. You would just need new gear and more RP for artifacts and whatnot.

wintersmoke

justmarionette#6941 said:

Guys, thnx for replies but do u really understand what does it mean?
spend another year to create a toon..
no way

Many players, myself included have multiple characters.

justmarionette

C'mon guys, do you ever try to understand what I'm talking about, no?

kreatyve

justmarionette#6941 said:

C'mon guys, do you ever try to understand what I'm talking about, no?

We are trying to understand, unless you aren't explaining it very well, with a game like Neverwinter, it's just not possible at all.

Are you talking about respecing? Where you basically reset all your powers and feats and paragon path?

thefiresidecat

I don't see why this is impossible. all gear has equivalents across all classes. levelling up a toon is a long boring process. I don't see why they couldn't introduce a class change token. that switches everything to that class. it's not just boons and stuff. mounts and companions are difficult to obtain and level. sometimes people do all that and then find they really would rather be maining on another class. the sheer grind of that plus the difficulty of fine tuning means you're going to get some people just leaving out of boredom instead of continuing on. at this stage of the lifecycle of a game like this you might expect some concessions to keep the long haulers amused. I really don't find this to be a ridiculous thought process

rafaelda

justmarionette#6941 said:

C'mon guys, do you ever try to understand what I'm talking about, no?

is not that hard to have multitoons, there are really cheap weapons sets atm like the wootz ones and the armor from hunts can gear an alt in no time,

For some campaing is good to have the Patronage tokens (like Maze Engine) for others like Underdark or Dread Ring i dont think is worth

The hardset part of have more than one toons is Refining your Belt/cape and artifacts, you will spend a lot of RP there and the Enchantments
but if you plan on abandone one toon, you can just send all your runes and AD to the new toon...
is not hard to hit 13k on many toons, farming for many runes is the hard part (and top mounts but that i never had)


belive me i have 5 toons
GWF 14,4k
GF 13,9k
CW13.1k
HR 13,6k
OP 12.9k

Another option is, to buy Campaing completion tokens for a new toon... (hit 70 can be done in 2 weekends)
i wouldnt do that because it poil the fun and the "training time" for that class...


PS the new mod will turn even more easy to start a new toon ...

justmarionette

> @thefiresidecat:
That's what I'm talking about!
Yes, it can be done, even if all loot will be erased, it's ok. Lore info, titels, campaigns, boons - thoth are imho eats 70% of all time in game.
And no, I don't need over 9000 toons with every classes.
Plus BTW - does any1 really care about lore? Every answer here in which guys try 2 tells me start a new one, I'm pretty sure, no one even knows about why dwarfs cannot be clerics, or why hr mustn't choose his/her God?
P.s.
I just need a new lifecycle for my toon (like my wife needs same for her own toon)

mebengalsfan

kreatyve said:

There has never been a "class changing token" nor will there ever be. Due to how the equipment system is in Neverwinter, you would have to get all new gear anyway. If you want to play a different class, your only choice is to make a new character. They added the Patron Token system to save some of the headache of the campaigns. You can send enchants over to the new character. You would just need new gear and more RP for artifacts and whatnot.

The class change token should happen. The excuse of the gear is not acceptable given that most players can use seals to buy the gear they do need for their class or use non-class specific gear, like hunt gear, to fill in the void of the class specific gear until said player can acquire the gear. The same can be applied to the weapons. It also would be on the player to resolve these issues before changing classes, it should not fall on the devs shoulders to ensure the player has what is needed to switch classes.

I played other games where players can do this and it was always on the player to resolve the gear issue if they changed class, not a dev issue.

Also most of the 480 gear is not class specific and most players are using that gear so there is that as well. The only issue I see is the weapon and the teak weapons are super cheap to purchase and can be a filler until the player can acquire better weapon set.

From a business stand point, there are reason why not to do this and why to do this. The first reason why not to is the lose of revenue from players forgoing building up another character. That loss of revenue will hurt the bottom line. However, not having a class change token also can hurt the game as players who only want to play one character will get bored and leave the game.

Given where the game is today, I think it might be in the company best interest to introduce this product. This is not the first post talking about a class change token. It would be another revenue stream. Another way to ensure this product is used by only a select group of players is limit it to players who have less than X characters on the character screen. So if a player has more than 2 character, this Zen item is not available to them, but the player only has two characters this item is available to them. This way, players who truly only play one or maybe two characters can use this token to swap class to experience more of NWO than what they have as their current class.

These are just my thoughts on this issue and possible solutions so the product can be added to the zen store.

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greywynd

justmarionette#6941 said:

I'm pretty sure, no one even knows about why dwarfs cannot be clerics...

My dwarven cleric is laughing at this comment.

trevor

justmarionette#6941 said:

Hello everyone,
I have a question about class changing.
Badly remember that at the beginning of the game release with OP appearance, there was "Class changing tokens"
The question is - will we see them again? >:)
(The main reason for such a question in the boring and endless farming for nothing in end-game content?
I mean players usually need a few weeks or a month to get almost everything they want, then everyone supposes to run same dunges and campaign)

p.s. I love this game and make really good friends here, but we are tired and don't want to leave this game!

thats what alt toons are for