Flames of Empowerment good?

manipulos

I was looking at this class feature last night on my SW alt and it looked pretty good at least for single target, but I don't see it listed on any builds I've looked at so is it broken or maybe does not work like the tooltip says? Do DoT ticks from Hellish Rebuke add stacks?

schietindebux

It works since fix in mod 13 and i run that feature sice FoE is active 100% in dungeons.

jaime4312

> @schietindebux said:
> It works since fix in mod 13 and i run that feature sice FoE is active 100% in dungeons.

> @schietindebux said:
> It works since fix in mod 13 and i run that feature sice FoE is active 100% in dungeons.

What was broken about the feature itself pre mod 13? Or do you mean the artifact weapon boost (1% extra debuff per stack)?

schietindebux

I thought we spoke about that offhand feature FoE, my fault.
I run FoE most of the time, except runnig solo trasmobs- NPNM and ACC most of the time, but solo bosses NPNM+FoE again.

jaime4312

All good! My guess was right, after all.

manipulos

schietindebux said:

I thought we spoke about that offhand feature FoE, my fault.

I run FoE most of the time, except runnig solo trasmobs- NPNM and ACC most of the time, but solo bosses NPNM+FoE again.

This makes sense to me, thank you.

xs13red

Hellish rebuke ticks from single hit. Second hit does not add second set of ticks. Try HR then another at will then refresh HR after rotation.

jaime4312

> @xs13red said:
> Hellish rebuke ticks from single hit. Second hit does not add second set of ticks. Try HR then another at will then refresh HR after rotation.

We already know that.

manipulos

jaime4312#3760 said:

> @xs13red said:

> Hellish rebuke ticks from single hit. Second hit does not add second set of ticks. Try HR then another at will then refresh HR after rotation.



We already know that.

I figured hitting the same target twice with HR would just refresh the dot but confirmation of that is fine. I was thinking if HR dot ticks procced it then it could be worth slotting, but this is just an alt that I run Stronghold quests and other easy stuff with so I'll stick with NPNM and ACC.

A buddy runs a templock and he uses the Prince of Hell class feature, but I was looking at it and thinking is this necessary at higher item levels? I don't know what the sweet spot is for lifesteal for a templock though. This seemed like a good alternative for boss fights.

xs13red

Try shadow walk. Lifesteal deflect and speed. NPNM is not good, better options. I have about 30% lifesteal.

manipulos

xs13red said:

Try shadow walk. Lifesteal deflect and speed. NPNM is not good, better options. I have about 30% lifesteal.

Interesting, I'll check it out. I don't normally have issues with him dying, just just that his dps is low in comparison to my other alts. I have a CW, GWF, HR, and SW that are all low-geared alts for running this easy stuff and the SW is definitely the weakest in terms of damage, followed by the CW but his loadouts are broken and won't switch so he is stuck right now on MoF Thaum.

duckntroll

For an SW alt? Why do you care about DPS?
Just go for party utility with Hellbringer Temptation, with PillarOfPower and what-ever (depends on what you like and context).

Slot ShadowWalk not for LifeSteal but for speed running.
If your SW is too low level, slot PrinceOfHell for ArmorPenetration.
Otherwise it's FoE or ACC.

(Generally don't slot NPNM as it's a loss of DPS except if mobs die fast enought --> meaning that you are high level enought to know what you are doing)

manipulos

duckntroll said:

For an SW alt? Why do you care about DPS?
Just go for party utility with Hellbringer Temptation, with PillarOfPower and what-ever (depends on what you like and context).

Slot ShadowWalk not for LifeSteal but for speed running.
If your SW is too low level, slot PrinceOfHell for ArmorPenetration.
Otherwise it's FoE or ACC.

(Generally don't slot NPNM as it's a loss of DPS except if mobs die fast enought --> meaning that you are high level enought to know what you are doing)

I play him solo for Stronghold quests to feed the mimic, Omu patrols for maps for chance at ring, Fane for chance at ring, etc.

NPNM and ACC worked pretty well last night in Omu patrols. I ran Fane and switched ACC for FoE and I honestly couldn't tell a difference. *shrug*

duckntroll

No major distinction between ACC and FoE?

Multiple possibilities

• Do you spam fast enought to keep the 3 stack of the FoE buff?
  
• Do you have enough Arpen? Cuz with the Fury Feat [Infernal Wrath] it grant 5% on foes burning with LesserCurse.
  
• Is your weapon power consistent with the feat?
  • For ACC it's 5% crititcal severity (good if it work)
    
  • For FoE it's +1% per stack
    

manipulos

I'm sure it's just the character, he is pretty weak, around 11k ilvl with junk companions and cast-off gear. He only hits 11k due to three nice rings and r13 bondings on a Lillend, just so I can swap them around on my weaker alts so I don't have to invest much into them.

duckntroll

manipulos said:

r13 bondings on a Lillend

Sigh... Even my main doesn't have that...

In your place, given your 11K toon can survive the Fane I'would not give more though and just enjoyfarm.
(It's not like 11K is enough to enter Tong or Cradle.)

manipulos

duckntroll said:

manipulos said:

r13 bondings on a Lillend

Sigh... Even my main doesn't have that...

In your place, given your 11K toon can survive the Fane I'would not give more though and just enjoyfarm.
(It's not like 11K is enough to enter Tong or Cradle.)

I just have 1 set of bondings that I trade between characters using my shared bank spaces and VIP bank summon from anywhere. It only takes 1 gold each to unslot them so I never run out of gold doing it.

schietindebux

NPNM grants combat advantage on crit.
I run NPNM going solo 100% all the time since: one crit aoe grants CA , by that I get a multipler > 1.4 ...nothing any classfeature might spend. If your critchance is 0%

For second slot (solo) ACC is fine (fury espec.) since every proc of Lesser Curse guaranties the dot from capstone

In dungeons NPNM is wasted most if the time so you pick FoE for sure and seither ACC as fury or shadowwalk for speed deflect LS or prince of hell if missing arp.
Depends on your equip/stats prince if hell is 8% LS and 8% RI.