I would strongly sugest your dev team double check the kutlass scale drop from the kutlass hunt while you guys are at it. There have been player reports of it potentially being bugged as well.
No, the Kutlass scale drops just fine....I had posted a thread about it, and someone suggested tht in order to get the Kutlass scale you had to deal the killing blow. I personally find that unlikely, but at any rate, I did the next Kutlass kill solo, and the scale dropped just fine (and yes, I hav the chain active and in my inventory.
So, Kutlass is OK - the drop rate is just a bit low.
Done about 10 kutlass (some solo) and 15 folly, no scale from either on my TR, got both quickly on my GF/GWF.
"killed the Tyrant" should be read as "has the Chult Lore entry about The Tyrant" ("The Lost City of Omu: The Tyrant"). So between now and when the fix goes live (probably next week), get in on a Tyrant kill and you'll get a Bile Drenched Scale.
I am having the same problem with the Kutlass' Bloody Scale. Can you verify it is also working correctly for that drop?
I've killed about 20 of these bad boys (as the lure placer, and about 10 of these as the solo hunter) over two main characters over a period of 3-4 weeks and haven't gotten a drop on either one. They both had the Chain of Scales already, restored to the 2nd tier. I had the scales from Ras Nsi and the Tarnished Mind Whisperer drop prior to doing Fane, so I'm concerned it is also affected in Kutlass.
> @vordayn said: > "killed the Tyrant" should be read as "has the Chult Lore entry about The Tyrant" ("The Lost City of Omu: The Tyrant"). So between now and when the fix goes live (probably next week), get in on a Tyrant kill and you'll get a Bile Drenched Scale. > > I am having the same problem with the Kutlass' Bloody Scale. Can you verify it is also working correctly for that drop? > > I've killed about 20 of these bad boys (as the lure placer, and about 10 of these as the solo hunter) over two main characters over a period of 3-4 weeks and haven't gotten a drop on either one. They both had the Chain of Scales already, restored to the 2nd tier. I had the scales from Ras Nsi and the Tarnished Mind Whisperer drop prior to doing Fane, so I'm concerned it is also affected in Kutlass.
I can confirm the kutlass scale works. I had gotten one while having a rank 2 chain and after having previously been in a party with someone else that got one.
I can confirm the kutlass scale works. I had gotten one while having a rank 2 chain and after having previously been in a party with someone else that got one.
It works, it’s just a lowish RNG drop chance.
Did you also have the Ras Nsi and Tarnished Mind Whisperer's scale in your pack too though? Those scales restore the Chain after the Kutlass one, so I don't know if having one or both of these two scales prevents a lower level scale from dropping. I have both in my pack, I don't know which one of them dropped first however, and both mains are in the same situation.
@miasmat, does having more advanced scales prevent the previous ones from dropping??
> @vordayn said: > I can confirm the kutlass scale works. I had gotten one while having a rank 2 chain and after having previously been in a party with someone else that got one. > > > > It works, it’s just a lowish RNG drop chance. > > Did you also have the Ras Nsi and Tarnished Mind Whisperer's scale in your pack too though? Those scales restore the Chain after the Kutlass one, so I don't know if having these two scales prevents a lower level scale from dropping. I have both in my pack, I don't know which one of them dropped first however, and both mains are in the same situation. > > @miasmat, does having more advanced scales prevent the previous ones from dropping??
I had the ras nsi scale but not the tarnished. I also had a soulmonger ampule if that matters.
I can confirm the kutlass scale works. I had gotten one while having a rank 2 chain and after having previously been in a party with someone else that got one.
It works, it’s just a lowish RNG drop chance.
Did you also have the Ras Nsi and Tarnished Mind Whisperer's scale in your pack too though? Those scales restore the Chain after the Kutlass one, so I don't know if having one or both of these two scales prevents a lower level scale from dropping. I have both in my pack, I don't know which one of them dropped first however, and both mains are in the same situation.
@miasmat, does having more advanced scales prevent the previous ones from dropping??
I had both on my character when the Kutlass dropped for me. Took me about 16 summons, did them all solo.
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adinosiiMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 4,294Arc User
I had both scales..got Kutlass' on, I think, my 8th attempt.
I can confirm the kutlass scale works. I had gotten one while having a rank 2 chain and after having previously been in a party with someone else that got one.
It works, it’s just a lowish RNG drop chance.
Did you also have the Ras Nsi and Tarnished Mind Whisperer's scale in your pack too though? Those scales restore the Chain after the Kutlass one, so I don't know if having one or both of these two scales prevents a lower level scale from dropping. I have both in my pack, I don't know which one of them dropped first however, and both mains are in the same situation.
@miasmat, does having more advanced scales prevent the previous ones from dropping??
I had both on my character when the Kutlass dropped for me. Took me about 16 summons, did them all solo.
OK, so I gave it another shot since you guys' feedback says it does drop.
I don't know if this is a work around or is just good RNG following a bad spell: but I put my Chain of Scales, and both the Ras Nsi and Tarnished Mind Whisperer's scale into my bank, and Kutlass' scale dropped on the 3rd attempt for my CW, and on the 2nd attempt for my DC.
RNG works in funny ways.
But if you were like me and had both scales on you, it won't hurt to try and put all the items into your bank while you hunt Kutlass. Whatever it is, I'm am free from hunting! Hoorah!
Now just to offload these 9 or so Horn of the Ape I picked up ...
I'll be actively campaigning against anyone ever spending money in this game until devs start doing their jobs correctly. Including the loss of the large amounts of money I invested in the game myself only to be disappointed by a complete lack of support or reasonable resolution in a timely manner. Hire someone that knows what they are doing.
Killed Tyrant several times post-patch, no one in the group received a scale. It appears to have been a one-time offer for those who killed before the patch. Not sure new drop rate or if the patch actually fixed the problem, though the reward for those who killed previously was a good gesture. I am still of the position that the lure dropper should automatically receive a scale if they haven't already as just making the Tyrant lure is a significant accomplishment. Doing so would also make the event more social as those who have already completed it would be more likely to let someone else have a chance.
Killed Tyrant several times post-patch, no one in the group received a scale. It appears to have been a one-time offer for those who killed before the patch. Not sure new drop rate or if the patch actually fixed the problem, though the reward for those who killed previously was a good gesture. I am still of the position that the lure dropper should automatically receive a scale if they haven't already as just making the Tyrant lure is a significant accomplishment. Doing so would also make the event more social as those who have already completed it would be more likely to let someone else have a chance.
Only the invoker receive the scale. If he has already received one, no more scales will come.
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In each of the 4 kills post-patch, the lure user did not previously have the scale and did not receive a scale. It's not automatic. For several guild members who killed the Tyrant pre-patch, but did not use the lure, they received a scale on patch day.
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adinosiiMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 4,294Arc User
it is a bit unfair, yes. considering the effort/expenses required to make a lure, the drop chance should really be 100%.
This is also because people that just participated in a kill pre-patch got the scale, even if they did not place a lure...but people that place the lure after thd patch have only a chance of getting it.
Did Tyrant 5mins ago noone in the party got the scale...that really suc...s Always the same Cryptic said they fixed things and they are still broken...
The Bile Drenched Scale has been changed to drop 100% of the time from the Tyrant hunt if the player qualifies for it.
İ can kill never drop me again i can buy 2 million ad rot flesh ppl before killed droped next patch %100 bile drenched i want tomorrow backpack bile drenched !
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This is totally UNFAIR ; some people who have only participate to tyrant before patch have the scale
Yeah, this will be a 100% drop rate for anyone qualifies with tomorrow's patch.
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Did Tyrant 5mins ago noone in the party got the scale...that really suc...s Always the same Cryptic said they fixed things and they are still broken...
The Bile Drenched Scale had never been a 100% drop rate item. We did a fix to an issue with the drop where a player couldn't receive it at all when they still needed it, but a change in the drop rate was not part of that fix and was never intended to be part of that fix. We also never said that it was changed to a 100% drop rate when that fix went live.
With the upcoming change it will now be a 100% drop rate if the person qualifies for it. To avoid future confusion, this does not mean everyone in a group will get the scale, there is at most 1 Bile Drenched Scale per kill.
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adinosiiMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 4,294Arc User
Well, this is a good fix. It was rather unfair that those who even just participated in the hunt before the first patch got the scale automatically, but those who dropped the lure afterwards only had "a chance".
considering the effort/expenses required to make a lure, the drop chance should really be 100%.
So, I'm happy. There might be a handful of people who placed their first Tyrant lure between the first and second patch and did not get the scale, but I don't know if anything can be done about that.
Anyhow, thanks for the fix.
Now if you could only fix the Omu trophy drop rate (which seems to be the same as in Soshenstar, but there we get 2 rare mobs spawning, instead of just one, so double chances)
@noworries For me it sounds pretty unfair cause ppl in between the 2 patches get nothing. In the long run the Bile is the only valuable drop and what does that mean : 1 Bile per kill... the caster which did all that awful-time-consuming-rng-bs farming have a 20% chance to get it if he does the Tyrant in a 5 man group? Its a automatic drop b.o.c like the other Scales right so u have to solo the Tyrant to get it for sure?
You guys working hard at keeping player frustrated...only one carrot after another...farming rotten flesh is in my opinion the most time consuming and disapointing thing u ever implemented over the last 5 years...so what u offer for our time if not the scale is a 100% drop for the owner of the lure? Maybe in your hometown u can buy lifetime in the next super market around the corner but were I life I really have to think about if I want waste time for a rank 3 hunt over and over again.
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Did Tyrant 5mins ago noone in the party got the scale...that really suc...s Always the same Cryptic said they fixed things and they are still broken...
The Bile Drenched Scale had never been a 100% drop rate item. We did a fix to an issue with the drop where a player couldn't receive it at all when they still needed it, but a change in the drop rate was not part of that fix and was never intended to be part of that fix. We also never said that it was changed to a 100% drop rate when that fix went live.
With the upcoming change it will now be a 100% drop rate if the person qualifies for it. To avoid future confusion, this does not mean everyone in a group will get the scale, there is at most 1 Bile Drenched Scale per kill.
Thanks for the clarifacation, however, its still a little unclear. Your statement could mean one of 2 things:
#1) Only the lure owner gets the scale and it has a 100% chance to drop.
#2) 1 scale drops each hunt but it could drop for anyone in the party.
I'm hoping you went with the former since the latter would incentivize players to solo the hunt instead of taking people with them. The latter would also mean that the lure owner may not get his scale after being mislead by the patch notes into thinking he would get a guarenteed scale, everyone would still be in the habit of taking people with them so this would happen to a lot of people before news spread.
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I had two people in my party getting the scale the other day, none of them placed the lure
Could it be that they just didnt realize that they had it from when they gave it out with the first fix were everyone got one and though they got it from the current hunt?
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I've killed about 20 of these bad boys (as the lure placer, and about 10 of these as the solo hunter) over two main characters over a period of 3-4 weeks and haven't gotten a drop on either one. They both had the Chain of Scales already, restored to the 2nd tier. I had the scales from Ras Nsi and the Tarnished Mind Whisperer drop prior to doing Fane, so I'm concerned it is also affected in Kutlass.
> "killed the Tyrant" should be read as "has the Chult Lore entry about The Tyrant" ("The Lost City of Omu: The Tyrant"). So between now and when the fix goes live (probably next week), get in on a Tyrant kill and you'll get a Bile Drenched Scale.
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> I am having the same problem with the Kutlass' Bloody Scale. Can you verify it is also working correctly for that drop?
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> I've killed about 20 of these bad boys (as the lure placer, and about 10 of these as the solo hunter) over two main characters over a period of 3-4 weeks and haven't gotten a drop on either one. They both had the Chain of Scales already, restored to the 2nd tier. I had the scales from Ras Nsi and the Tarnished Mind Whisperer drop prior to doing Fane, so I'm concerned it is also affected in Kutlass.
I can confirm the kutlass scale works. I had gotten one while having a rank 2 chain and after having previously been in a party with someone else that got one.
It works, it’s just a lowish RNG drop chance.
@miasmat, does having more advanced scales prevent the previous ones from dropping??
> I can confirm the kutlass scale works. I had gotten one while having a rank 2 chain and after having previously been in a party with someone else that got one.
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> It works, it’s just a lowish RNG drop chance.
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> Did you also have the Ras Nsi and Tarnished Mind Whisperer's scale in your pack too though? Those scales restore the Chain after the Kutlass one, so I don't know if having these two scales prevents a lower level scale from dropping. I have both in my pack, I don't know which one of them dropped first however, and both mains are in the same situation.
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> @miasmat, does having more advanced scales prevent the previous ones from dropping??
I had the ras nsi scale but not the tarnished. I also had a soulmonger ampule if that matters.
I don't know if this is a work around or is just good RNG following a bad spell: but I put my Chain of Scales, and both the Ras Nsi and Tarnished Mind Whisperer's scale into my bank, and Kutlass' scale dropped on the 3rd attempt for my CW, and on the 2nd attempt for my DC.
RNG works in funny ways.
But if you were like me and had both scales on you, it won't hurt to try and put all the items into your bank while you hunt Kutlass. Whatever it is, I'm am free from hunting! Hoorah!
Now just to offload these 9 or so Horn of the Ape I picked up ...
Eleonore - CW Mof Renegade 17.5k
Harlgard le Vieux - OP Prot 18.3k
Valrik - DC AC 18.2k
Furiela - SW Temp 18.1k
This is also because people that just participated in a kill pre-patch got the scale, even if they did not place a lure...but people that place the lure after thd patch have only a chance of getting it.
We made tyrant 2times with guildmates
No drop bile drenched scale !
This is totally UNFAIR ; some people who have only participate to tyrant before patch have the scale
İ can kill never drop me again i can buy 2 million ad rot flesh ppl before killed droped next patch %100 bile drenched i want tomorrow backpack bile drenched !
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With the upcoming change it will now be a 100% drop rate if the person qualifies for it. To avoid future confusion, this does not mean everyone in a group will get the scale, there is at most 1 Bile Drenched Scale per kill.
So, as I said above... So, I'm happy. There might be a handful of people who placed their first Tyrant lure between the first and second patch and did not get the scale, but I don't know if anything can be done about that.
Anyhow, thanks for the fix.
Now if you could only fix the Omu trophy drop rate (which seems to be the same as in Soshenstar, but there we get 2 rare mobs spawning, instead of just one, so double chances)
For me it sounds pretty unfair cause ppl in between the 2 patches get nothing.
In the long run the Bile is the only valuable drop and what does that mean : 1 Bile per kill... the caster which did all that awful-time-consuming-rng-bs farming have a 20% chance to get it if he does the Tyrant in a 5 man group? Its a automatic drop b.o.c like the other Scales right so u have to solo the Tyrant to get it for sure?
You guys working hard at keeping player frustrated...only one carrot after another...farming rotten flesh is in my opinion the most time consuming and disapointing thing u ever implemented over the last 5 years...so what u offer for our time if not the scale is a 100% drop for the owner of the lure? Maybe in your hometown u can buy lifetime in the next super market around the corner but were I life I really have to think about if I want waste time for a rank 3 hunt over and over again.
#1) Only the lure owner gets the scale and it has a 100% chance to drop.
#2) 1 scale drops each hunt but it could drop for anyone in the party.
I'm hoping you went with the former since the latter would incentivize players to solo the hunt instead of taking people with them. The latter would also mean that the lure owner may not get his scale after being mislead by the patch notes into thinking he would get a guarenteed scale, everyone would still be in the habit of taking people with them so this would happen to a lot of people before news spread.
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