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Hey Devs: Manual on how to easily fix warlock damage

dramatik4real#2334 dramatik4real Member Posts: 10 Arc User
edited November 2017 in The Nine Hells
(PS4 Mod 12) I'm a maxed out 16k5 SW (just need Primal gear) who can't even compete in dps with GF's OP's or any DPS class 2k il less than me (slightly exaggerating). I've mained an SW since day 1 in mod 9 and have played for over a year with what seems like billions of AD in my toon. After giving up on being a DPS SW, I've decided to put on a skirt and try out a no-damage Temptation but healing on my SW is just not for me. I'm gonna give my opinion of how I would fix the SW DPS class.

Step 1: Stop trying to make the SW a healer/buffer. Healing should be an option not a requirement for us SW's
Step 2: Increase the DoT tick rate x2 or x3 (make it tick much faster) <-- 6 slow DoT ticks do nothing to mobs already dead (killed by GWF lol)
Step 3: More up front initial burst damage and less damage for DoT <-- Currently the big damage is on the back-end and ^^
Step 4: Make powers cast instantly like Fiery Bolt and BoH <-- Dead mobs don't wait for ridiculous 3 second casting delays like Harrowstorm
Step 5: Fix broken feats and scale with increased power <-- * I believe/hope this is being addressed in mod 13 *
Step 6: Make encounters and daily powers stack on each other <-- On dummies I notice some powers cancel previous powers (ex. BoH cancels TC)
Step 7: Less party buffs and more self buffs <-- It's MY Pillar of Power darnit! Make the freakin GWF buff me for once ;)

Just the thoughts of an SW hungering for decent to respectable damage output. My goal is to be able to do T9G and not get completely embarrassed by my contributions. I get invited to T9G (cuz I'm 16k5 il) to do damage and never once have I been asked to switch to healing. I have not been kicked at Orcus yet but I have volunteered to step out when I see I'm 3rd in dps over the two DC's lol (for real i cry). I figure leaving the group is the best support role for an SW at this point.

I've respect'd my toon many times trying this build and that build, this rotation and that rotation but the result is the same. I finally realize that I've tried it all and it might be time to just take a step back from this game. If any BIG BAD UGLY (maybe not ugly) SW can help me off the 'Lack of Damage' cliff I would love some advice/help. Until then I'll be in Chult trying to earn my first piece of Primal gear at the rate of 10-20 seals a day.

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  • schietindebuxschietindebux Member Posts: 4,292 Arc User
    edited November 2017
    bellkazi said:

    (PS4 Mod 12) I'm a maxed out 16k5 SW (just need Primal gear) who can't even compete in dps with GF's

    slightly exaggerating

    Just a little bit.
    Lol. But we can be good :D
    That song did not even start.
    My eyes are so bad. I am still training on my GF...he wears the stones my warlock used to do.
    Combat Sup+SWW
    Villains menace+survivor wraps, Tensor in between, Blocking5x to proc capstone+SWW.
    ITF into KC , pop Crystal into 3x Griffon + 2 At wills + Crescendo ?
    What prevents Orcus attacking the GF even though he is "locked in" from Knights Chalange?

    A warlock can try same but will struggel simply because he does not have compareable multiplier/selfbuffs towards his damage, lower basedamage.
    Basedamage from Griffon Wrath selfbuffed x >5 from feats and powers (ITF not includet) on top of factor >30 from open buffs and equip on top of debuffs. A GWF might be able to do similar stuff.
    Debuffs are by far the smallest factor in this calculation.
    That new artifact is not the biggest part of overpowered stuff, but it fits in the powercreep this game is tortured by for so many mods now.
    Well done, good timing for sure and cheers Cryptic, for that special experience of math...
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  • dramatik4real#2334 dramatik4real Member Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited November 2017
    @etelgrin

    Thank you. I've pasted my comments over there.

    Edit: I think my post was removed.
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  • naoqueroforumnaoqueroforum Member Posts: 225 Arc User
    bellkazi said:

    (PS4 Mod 12) I'm a maxed out 16k5 SW (just need Primal gear) who can't even compete in dps with GF's

    slightly exaggerating

    Just a little bit.
    Awesome video. It's cool and kinda funny. Makes you want to switch to a dps class. Or to one of those buffers. Good synergy and timing. The sad thing about it is that for some reason devs don't like that and they would probably work on nerfing something so that people can't do that (until they figure another new way to do it).
    You know what's even funnier about that? Even if you could make a warlock with 200 feat points, with both paragons active at the same time, with perma PoP, perma max sparks, zero CD on our long cast time encounters, auto WC cast after a soul scorch, CDless OBC procing even on crits, all artifacts powers and all class features active at the same time, I still doubt a sw would do a similar job.

    I really wish SW be brought up to a similar dps level of GF, but what we will probably get is that GF will be brought down to sw level :( .
  • rjc9000rjc9000 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,405 Arc User
    edited December 2017

    bellkazi said:

    (PS4 Mod 12) I'm a maxed out 16k5 SW (just need Primal gear) who can't even compete in dps with GF's

    slightly exaggerating

    Just a little bit.
    Lol. But we can be good :D
    That song did not even start.
    My eyes are so bad. I am still training on my GF...he wears the stones my warlock used to do.
    Combat Sup+SWW
    Villains menace+survivor wraps, Tensor in between, Blocking5x to proc capstone+SWW.
    ITF into KC , pop Crystal into 3x Griffon + 2 At wills + Crescendo ?
    What prevents Orcus attacking the GF even though he is "locked in" from Knights Chalange?

    A warlock can try same but will struggel simply because he does not have compareable multiplier/selfbuffs towards his damage, lower basedamage.
    Basedamage from Griffon Wrath selfbuffed x >5 from feats and powers (ITF not includet) on top of factor >30 from open buffs and equip on top of debuffs. A GWF might be able to do similar stuff.
    Debuffs are by far the smallest factor in this calculation.
    That new artifact is not the biggest part of overpowered stuff, but it fits in the powercreep this game is tortured by for so many mods now.
    Well done, good timing for sure and cheers Cryptic, for that special experience of math...
    Crytpic Studios, teaching 8th grade arithmetic better than any other textbook.

    :trollface:

    bellkazi said:

    (PS4 Mod 12) I'm a maxed out 16k5 SW (just need Primal gear) who can't even compete in dps with GF's

    slightly exaggerating

    Just a little bit.
    Awesome video. It's cool and kinda funny. Makes you want to switch to a dps class. Or to one of those buffers. Good synergy and timing. The sad thing about it is that for some reason devs don't like that and they would probably work on nerfing something so that people can't do that (until they figure another new way to do it).
    You know what's even funnier about that? Even if you could make a warlock with 200 feat points, with both paragons active at the same time, with perma PoP, perma max sparks, zero CD on our long cast time encounters, auto WC cast after a soul scorch, CDless OBC procing even on crits, all artifacts powers and all class features active at the same time, I still doubt a sw would do a similar job.

    I really wish SW be brought up to a similar dps level of GF, but what we will probably get is that GF will be brought down to sw level :( .
    We've waited for... I dunno, 2.5, 3 modules now ever since the butthurt GWF brigade began crying about their poor epeen status being shattered.

    If TR and SW are any indication, DPS GF won't get adjusted till possibly Mod25.

    Extra irony points: if GF as a whole gets a full rework before TR and/or SW.
    :trollface:

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  • mamalion1234mamalion1234 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 3,415 Arc User

    And as you waiting for fixes what about this guy in a non meta party ( cw renegade-cw dps-1 dc-op) in a typical fbi run we burned hati in 1:40 with sw top the charts?


    and here you can see there is nothing weird with the effectiveness.
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