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[Info/Bugs] Stronghold PvE Overload Marks

nevertwinevertwi Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 80 Arc User
edited January 2018 in PvE Discussion

Overview:

  • Ward marks
  • Slayer marks
  • Working marks overview
  • External references

Ward overloads

The wards don`t give damage reduction like the tooltips states, instead they reduce the incoming damage itself. To test the wards there was a need to use a fixed damage attack of an enemy. In this case it was the evokers "ice storm" used.

Two examples without any ward:

17:11:10:23:47:46.0::Evoker,C[818 Thayan_Elite_Evokerredwizard],,*,Player A,P[100833786@7290507 Player A@test],Ice Storm,Pn.Jtl2st1,Physical,,0,0
17:11:10:23:47:47.0::Evoker,C[818 Thayan_Elite_Evokerredwizard],,*,Player A,P[100833786@7290507 Player A@test],Ice Storm,Pn.Jtl2st1,Physical,,1314.69,4730.64
17:11:10:23:47:48.0::Evoker,C[818 Thayan_Elite_Evokerredwizard],,*,Player A,P[100833786@7290507 Player A@test],Ice Storm,Pn.Jtl2st1,Physical,,2250.92,9461.28
17:11:10:23:47:48.0::Evoker,C[818 Thayan_Elite_Evokerredwizard],,*,Player A,P[100833786@7290507 Player A@test],Ice Storm,Pn.Jtl2st1,Physical,Dodge,2539.71,14191.9
17:11:10:23:47:49.0::Evoker,C[818 Thayan_Elite_Evokerredwizard],,*,Player A,P[100833786@7290507 Player A@test],Ice Storm,Pn.Jtl2st1,Physical,,6015.65,18922.6
17:11:10:23:47:50.0::Evoker,C[818 Thayan_Elite_Evokerredwizard],,*,Player A,P[100833786@7290507 Player A@test],Ice Storm,Pn.Jtl2st1,Physical,,6573.43,23653.2

17:11:10:23:48:10.0::Evoker,C[818 Thayan_Elite_Evokerredwizard],,*,Player A,P[100833786@7290507 Player A@test],Ice Storm,Pn.Jtl2st1,Physical,,0,0
17:11:10:23:48:10.0::Evoker,C[818 Thayan_Elite_Evokerredwizard],,*,Player A,P[100833786@7290507 Player A@test],Ice Storm,Pn.Jtl2st1,Physical,,1314.69,4730.64
17:11:10:23:48:11.0::Evoker,C[818 Thayan_Elite_Evokerredwizard],,*,Player A,P[100833786@7290507 Player A@test],Ice Storm,Pn.Jtl2st1,Physical,Critical|Dodge,2116.42,11826.6
17:11:10:23:48:12.0::Evoker,C[818 Thayan_Elite_Evokerredwizard],,*,Player A,P[100833786@7290507 Player A@test],Ice Storm,Pn.Jtl2st1,Physical,,4511.73,14191.9
17:11:10:23:48:13.0::Evoker,C[818 Thayan_Elite_Evokerredwizard],,*,Player A,P[100833786@7290507 Player A@test],Ice Storm,Pn.Jtl2st1,Physical,Dodge,2629.37,18922.6
17:11:10:23:48:14.0::Evoker,C[818 Thayan_Elite_Evokerredwizard],,*,Player A,P[100833786@7290507 Player A@test],Ice Storm,Pn.Jtl2st1,Physical,,5627.3,23653.2

Additional note: The The difference in the third hit in both combatlogs show that the crit severity of normal mobs is just 25%.



The ward debuff can applied through 2 ways:
  1. The appropriate mob type attacks the owner of the ward.
  2. The owner of the ward applies through a buff or heal the ward for 10 seconds to an other player and the appropriate mob type attacks the other player.
The debuff works how the following states:
  • The debuff applies the damage reduction to all. Not just to the person with the ward.
  • The ward debuffs hold for 5 seconds.
  • The attack triggering the ward is not debuffed:

    The attack triggeriing the debuff: Compare with the non debuff numbers showed before.
    17:11:11:00:26:18.0::Evoker,C[818 Thayan_Elite_Evokerredwizard],,*,Player A,P[100833786@7290507 Player A@test],Ice Storm,Pn.Jtl2st1,Physical,,4730.57,18922.6
    The next attack
    17:11:11:00:26:19.0::Evoker,C[818 Thayan_Elite_Evokerredwizard],,*,Player A,P[100833786@7290507 Player A@test],Ice Storm,Pn.Jtl2st1,Physical,,4718.73,22470.5

  • Just one debuff can be applied. This is the stronger debuff. It does not make a difference if the debuff is triggered from Player 1 or Player 2. Stacking 2 wards.
    Example:
    Using one rank 1 and one rank ward reduces the incoming damage just by taking the rank 2 ward. This applies too when using two rank 2 wards:
    17:11:11:00:33:01.0::Evoker,C[1635 Thayan_Elite_Evokerredwizard],,*,Player A,P[100833786@7290507 Player A@test],Ice Storm,Pn.Jtl2st1,Physical,,1105.41,3973.74
    17:11:11:00:33:02.0::Evoker,C[1635 Thayan_Elite_Evokerredwizard],,*,Player A,P[100833786@7290507 Player A@test],Ice Storm,Pn.Jtl2st1,Physical,Critical,2366.16,9934.34
    17:11:11:00:33:03.0::Evoker,C[1635 Thayan_Elite_Evokerredwizard],,*,Player A,P[100833786@7290507 Player A@test],Ice Storm,Pn.Jtl2st1,Physical,,2384.24,11921.2
    17:11:11:00:33:04.0::Evoker,C[1635 Thayan_Elite_Evokerredwizard],,*,Player A,P[100833786@7290507 Player A@test],Ice Storm,Pn.Jtl2st1,Physical,Critical,3973.74,19868.7
    17:11:11:00:33:04.0::Evoker,C[1635 Thayan_Elite_Evokerredwizard],,*,Player A,P[100833786@7290507 Player A@test],Ice Storm,Pn.Jtl2st1,Physical,Dodge,3160.9,19868.7

  • The rank 1 ward reduces the incoming damage by 5%:

    17:11:10:23:52:32.0::Evoker,C[818 Thayan_Elite_Evokerredwizard],,*,Player A,P[100833786@7290507 Player A@test],Ice Storm,Pn.Jtl2st1,Physical,Critical,0,0
    17:11:10:23:52:33.0::Evoker,C[818 Thayan_Elite_Evokerredwizard],,*,Player A,P[100833786@7290507 Player A@test],Ice Storm,Pn.Jtl2st1,Physical,,898.821,4494.11
    17:11:10:23:52:34.0::Evoker,C[818 Thayan_Elite_Evokerredwizard],,*,Player A,P[100833786@7290507 Player A@test],Ice Storm,Pn.Jtl2st1,Physical,,1797.64,8988.21
    17:11:10:23:52:34.0::Evoker,C[818 Thayan_Elite_Evokerredwizard],,*,Player A,P[100833786@7290507 Player A@test],Ice Storm,Pn.Jtl2st1,Physical,Dodge,2262.81,13482.3
    17:11:10:23:52:35.0::Evoker,C[818 Thayan_Elite_Evokerredwizard],,*,Player A,P[100833786@7290507 Player A@test],Ice Storm,Pn.Jtl2st1,Physical,,5315.11,17976.4
    17:11:10:23:52:36.0::Evoker,C[818 Thayan_Elite_Evokerredwizard],,*,Player A,P[100833786@7290507 Player A@test],Ice Storm,Pn.Jtl2st1,Physical,,5745.07,22470.5

  • The rank 2 ward reduces the incoming damage by 10%:

    17:11:10:23:56:05.0::Evoker,C[818 Thayan_Elite_Evokerredwizard],,*,Player A,P[100833786@7290507 Player A@test],Ice Storm,Pn.Jtl2st1,Physical,,0,0
    17:11:10:23:56:06.0::Evoker,C[818 Thayan_Elite_Evokerredwizard],,*,Player A,P[100833786@7290507 Player A@test],Ice Storm,Pn.Jtl2st1,Physical,Dodge,805.071,4730.64
    17:11:10:23:56:07.0::Evoker,C[818 Thayan_Elite_Evokerredwizard],,*,Player A,P[100833786@7290507 Player A@test],Ice Storm,Pn.Jtl2st1,Physical,,2557.65,8515.15
    17:11:10:23:56:07.0::Evoker,C[818 Thayan_Elite_Evokerredwizard],,*,Player A,P[100833786@7290507 Player A@test],Ice Storm,Pn.Jtl2st1,Physical,,3325.56,12772.7
    17:11:10:23:56:08.0::Evoker,C[818 Thayan_Elite_Evokerredwizard],,*,Player A,P[100833786@7290507 Player A@test],Ice Storm,Pn.Jtl2st1,Physical,,3752.87,17030.3
    17:11:10:23:56:09.0::Evoker,C[818 Thayan_Elite_Evokerredwizard],,*,Player A,P[100833786@7290507 Player A@test],Ice Storm,Pn.Jtl2st1,Physical,,4257.57,21287.9

  • It is possible to wear a slayer and a ward. They do not exclude each others. Here a thayan slayer rank 1 and a thayan ward rank 2 is used:

    17:11:11:00:13:03.0::Player A,P[100833786@7290507 Player A@test],,*,Evoker,C[818 Thayan_Elite_Evokerredwizard],Sure Strike,Pn.P4ekhr,Physical,Critical,6604.6,7790.08
    17:11:11:00:13:03.0::Player A,P[100833786@7290507 Player A@test],,*,Evoker,C[818 Thayan_Elite_Evokerredwizard],Lightning Weapon,Pn.Qap58c,Physical,Critical,2659.59,3136.97
    17:11:11:00:13:03.0::Player A,P[100833786@7290507 Player A@test],,*,Evoker,C[818 Thayan_Elite_Evokerredwizard],Mark of the Thayan Slayer, Rank 1,Pn.Tqssju,Physical,,330.23,389.504
    17:11:11:00:13:11.0::Evoker,C[818 Thayan_Elite_Evokerredwizard],,*,Player A,P[100833786@7290507 Player A@test],Ice Storm,Pn.Jtl2st1,Physical,,0,0
    17:11:11:00:13:13.0::Evoker,C[818 Thayan_Elite_Evokerredwizard],,*,Player A,P[100833786@7290507 Player A@test],Ice Storm,Pn.Jtl2st1,Physical,Dodge,1304.1,7947.47
    17:11:11:00:13:14.0::Evoker,C[818 Thayan_Elite_Evokerredwizard],,*,Player A,P[100833786@7290507 Player A@test],Ice Storm,Pn.Jtl2st1,Physical,,3435.45,11921.2
    17:11:11:00:13:14.0::Evoker,C[818 Thayan_Elite_Evokerredwizard],,*,Player A,P[100833786@7290507 Player A@test],Ice Storm,Pn.Jtl2st1,Physical,,3944.8,15894.9
    17:11:11:00:13:15.0::Evoker,C[818 Thayan_Elite_Evokerredwizard],,*,Player A,P[100833786@7290507 Player A@test],Ice Storm,Pn.Jtl2st1,Physical,,4136.25,19868.7




Post edited by nevertwi on

Comments

  • nevertwinevertwi Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 80 Arc User
    edited September 2018
    • The sh boon, which increases the damage reduction, works, but the value seems odd:
      Using a thayan ward rank 2 and the stronghold boon "Enhance overload: Ward" rank 10 reduces the incoming damage to 84% instead of an expected value of 81% = 0.9*0.9.

      17:11:11:00:08:34.0::Evoker,C[818 Thayan_Elite_Evokerredwizard],,*,Player A,P[100833786@7290507 Player A@test],Ice Storm,Pn.Jtl2st1,Physical,Dodge,696.128,3973.74
      17:11:11:00:08:35.0::Evoker,C[818 Thayan_Elite_Evokerredwizard],,*,Player A,P[100833786@7290507 Player A@test],Ice Storm,Pn.Jtl2st1,Physical,Dodge,1392.26,7947.47
      17:11:11:00:08:36.0::Evoker,C[818 Thayan_Elite_Evokerredwizard],,*,Player A,P[100833786@7290507 Player A@test],Ice Storm,Pn.Jtl2st1,Physical,Dodge,1849.96,11921.2
      17:11:11:00:08:37.0::Evoker,C[818 Thayan_Elite_Evokerredwizard],,*,Player A,P[100833786@7290507 Player A@test],Ice Storm,Pn.Jtl2st1,Physical,,4297.43,15894.9
      17:11:11:00:08:37.0::Evoker,C[818 Thayan_Elite_Evokerredwizard],,*,Player A,P[100833786@7290507 Player A@test],Ice Storm,Pn.Jtl2st1,Physical,,4577.04,19868.7

      To show how damage reduction normally works:
      Compared to the 20% stated feytouched (not going to show that feytouched enchantement reduces the incoming damage by 20%, but it is working) + one thayan ward rank 1 decreases the incoming damage by 24% = 0.8*0.95:

      17:11:11:17:10:01.0::Evoker,C[978 Thayan_Elite_Evokerredwizard],,*,Player A,P[100833786@7290507 Player A@test],Ice Storm,Pn.Jtl2st1,Physical,,0,0
      17:11:11:17:10:01.0::Player A,P[100833786@7290507 Player A@test],,*,Evoker,C[978 Thayan_Elite_Evokerredwizard],Feytouched Weapon,Pn.5o678c,Physical,Critical,476.124,485.741
      17:11:11:17:10:01.0::Player A,P[100833786@7290507 Player A@test],,*,Evoker,C[978 Thayan_Elite_Evokerredwizard],Feytouched Weapon,Pn.5o678c,Physical,Critical,643.25,547.248
      17:11:11:17:10:02.0::Evoker,C[978 Thayan_Elite_Evokerredwizard],,*,Player A,P[100833786@7290507 Player A@test],Ice Storm,Pn.Jtl2st1,Physical,,898.821,4494.11
      17:11:11:17:10:02.0::Evoker,C[978 Thayan_Elite_Evokerredwizard],,*,Player A,P[100833786@7290507 Player A@test],Ice Storm,Pn.Jtl2st1,SpeedRunning,Immune,0,0
      17:11:11:17:10:02.0::Evoker,C[978 Thayan_Elite_Evokerredwizard],,*,Player A,P[100833786@7290507 Player A@test],Ice Storm,Pn.Jtl2st1,SpeedRunning,Immune,0,0
      17:11:11:17:10:03.0::Evoker,C[978 Thayan_Elite_Evokerredwizard],,*,Player A,P[100833786@7290507 Player A@test],Ice Storm,Pn.Jtl2st1,Physical,,1438.11,7190.57
      17:11:11:17:10:03.0::Evoker,C[978 Thayan_Elite_Evokerredwizard],,*,Player A,P[100833786@7290507 Player A@test],Ice Storm,Pn.Jtl2st1,Physical,,2157.17,10785.9
      17:11:11:17:10:04.0::Evoker,C[978 Thayan_Elite_Evokerredwizard],,*,Player A,P[100833786@7290507 Player A@test],Ice Storm,Pn.Jtl2st1,Physical,Dodge,1438.11,14381.1
      17:11:11:17:10:05.0::Evoker,C[978 Thayan_Elite_Evokerredwizard],,*,Player A,P[100833786@7290507 Player A@test],Ice Storm,Pn.Jtl2st1,Physical,Dodge,1797.64,17976.4

    Slayer overloads

    • In general the slayer rank 1 hits for another 5% of the buffed and premitigrated damage of the triggering attack:
      17:11:10:23:10:22.0::Player A,P[100833786@7290507 Player A@test],,*,Evoker,C[376 Thayan_Elite_Evokerredwizard],Sure Strike,Pn.P4ekhr,Physical,,549.4,671.784
      17:11:10:23:10:22.0::Player A,P[100833786@7290507 Player A@test],,*,Evoker,C[376 Thayan_Elite_Evokerredwizard],Mark of the Thayan Slayer, Rank 1,Pn.Tqssju,Physical,,27.47,33.5892

    • In general the slayer rank 2 hits for another 10% of the buffed and premitigrated damage of the triggering attack.
      [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Sure Strike deals 5979 (7206) Physical Damage to Runewielder.
      [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Lightning Weapon deals 3059 (3687) Lightning Damage to Runewielder.
      [Combat (Self)] Your Mark of the Giant Slayer, Rank 2 deals 598 (721) Physical Damage to Runewielder.

    • The slayer overloads do not work on additional triggered attacks like the lightning weapon enchantement. See last log.
    • The slayer overloads do not work on utility attacks like the doohickey.
    • Slayer marks rank 1 do not work with slayer marks rank 2 of the same type. Just the rank 2 will be inflicting damage. No combat log provided, but the 5% entry would be missing.
    • Some enemies are from several types, such that 2 different slayer marks are working on them.

      [Combat (Self)] Your Sure Strike deals 560 Physical Damage to Dread Protector.
      [Combat (Self)] Your Mark of the Thayan Slayer, Rank 1 deals 28 Physical Damage to Dread Protector.
      [Combat (Self)] Your Mark of the Undead Slayer, Rank 1 deals 28 Physical Damage to Dread Protector.

    • In dungeons like fbi the effectivness is reduced by 1/4.

      FBI giant slayer rank 1:
      [Combat (Self)] Your Sure Strike deals 1676 (2850) Physical Damage to Beastmaster.
      [Combat (Self)] Your Mark of the Giant Slayer, Rank 1 deals 63 (107) Physical Damage to Beastmaster.
      FBI giant slayer rank 2:
      [Combat (Self)] Your Sure Strike deals 3293 (5699) Physical Damage to Beastmaster.
      [Combat (Self)] Your Mark of the Giant Slayer, Rank 2 deals 247 (427) Physical Damage to Beastmaster.

    • The sh boon for slayer overloads is working. It increases the hit of the slayer hit by 10%, so it is at best a 1% damage increase. Example:
      Thayan slayer rank 1 with stronghold boon "Enhance overload: Slayer" rank 10 hits together for 5,5% basedamage.

      17:11:11:00:16:37.0::Player A,P[100833786@7290507 Player A@test],,*,Evoker,C[818 Thayan_Elite_Evokerredwizard],Sure Strike,Pn.P4ekhr,Physical,Critical,6732.46,7940.89
      17:11:11:00:16:37.0::Player A,P[100833786@7290507 Player A@test],,*,Evoker,C[818 Thayan_Elite_Evokerredwizard],Lightning Weapon,Pn.Qap58c,Physical,Critical,3113.71,3672.6
      17:11:11:00:16:37.0::Player A,P[100833786@7290507 Player A@test],,*,Evoker,C[818 Thayan_Elite_Evokerredwizard],Mark of the Thayan Slayer, Rank 1,Pn.Tqssju,Physical,,370.285,436.749
      17:11:11:00:16:37.0::Player A,P[100833786@7290507 Player A@test],,*,Evoker,C[818 Thayan_Elite_Evokerredwizard],Lightning Burst,Pn.Fgmzi91,Physical,,569.958,672.261

    • "Enhance overload: Slayer" boon just gets better than other stronghold boons when you have +900% Power =~ 360000 Power and 750% crit severity, and then just if your damage does not come in great potions from additionally hits like the lightning enchantement.
    Post edited by nevertwi on
  • nevertwinevertwi Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 80 Arc User

    External references

  • thefabricantthefabricant Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 5,248 Arc User
    Great work.
    Our Imaginary Friends are better than yours.
  • UnknownUnknown
    edited March 2018
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  • midental#5256 midental
    midental#5256
         Member Posts: 136 Arc User
    Some news with mod 14?
  • nevertwinevertwi Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 80 Arc User
    edited June 2018
    midental#5256 said:

    Some news with mod 14?

    Retested all slayer marks on the described enemy types and they still are not working.

    Additionally found out, that all non working slayer marks are working as the dragon slayer mark rank 2. The wrong mapped marks don't stack with each other, nor with the intended dragon slayer mark rank 2. But the wrong mapped slayer marks are stacking with the dragon slayer mark rank 1. Instead they "just" cancel the usage of their own slayer type marks rank 1. The wrong mapped marks all produce a log message like the following when used with a dragon slayer rank 1:

    [Combat (Self)] Your Sure Strike deals 533 Physical Damage to Venfithar.
    [Combat (Self)] Your Mark of the Dragon Slayer, Rank 1 deals 27 Physical Damage to Venfithar.
    [Combat (Self)] Your Mark of the Dragon Slayer, Rank 2 deals 53 Physical Damage to Venfithar.

    Taking another look, all those non working marks are listed as the last rank 2 overload slayer marks in the stronghold shop too.

    And found out, that some enemies are from several types:

    [Combat (Self)] Your Sure Strike deals 560 Physical Damage to Dread Protector.
    [Combat (Self)] Your Mark of the Thayan Slayer, Rank 1 deals 28 Physical Damage to Dread Protector.
    [Combat (Self)] Your Mark of the Undead Slayer, Rank 1 deals 28 Physical Damage to Dread Protector.


    Added all three informations to the initial post.
    Post edited by nevertwi on
  • niszdog#4897 niszdog
    niszdog#4897
         Member Posts: 23 Arc User
    Can you test if the undead slayer rings from Chult are properly functioning. Someone on ps4 was saying that they only give the buff for 20seconds.
  • nevertwinevertwi Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 80 Arc User
    niszdog#4897 said:

    Can you test if the undead slayer rings from Chult are properly functioning. Someone on ps4 was saying that they only give the buff for 20seconds.

    A bit Offtopic: There is no buff icon provided and to my understanding the +x% dmg against undead work on a "per hit" basis.

    I gave a GWF a Ring of Undead Slayer +4 and the Vistani Ring of Dark. Then the gwf challenged a rotter in Dread Ring for ~40secs.

    Formula for SS-hits: (Approximated GWFs Lvl 70 Basedamage+Weapondamage)*SS Skillkoefficient*SS SkillRankCoefficient*Strength*1286 Power*5% vs Undead*4% vs Undead
    (173.31+1000)*1*0.43*1.1*(1+((0.1/3990.80444)*1286))*1.05*1.04=625.562

    Cleaned log:

    18:06:30:23:04:21.9::GWF,P[1009@729 GWF@test],,*,Rotter,C[602 Zombie_Minion_Rotter_Dreadring],Sure Strike,Pn.P4ekhr,Physical,,625.562,0
    18:06:30:23:04:22.2::Rotter,C[602 Zombie_Minion_Rotter_Dreadring],,*,GWF,P[1009@729 GWF@test],Slam,Pn.Mfz3so1,Physical,,3388.64,4448.83
    18:06:30:23:04:24.9::GWF,P[1009@729 GWF@test],,*,Rotter,C[602 Zombie_Minion_Rotter_Dreadring],Sure Strike,Pn.P4ekhr,Physical,,625.562,0
    18:06:30:23:04:25.5::GWF,P[1009@729 GWF@test],,*,Rotter,C[602 Zombie_Minion_Rotter_Dreadring],Sure Strike,Pn.P4ekhr,Physical,,625.562,0
    18:06:30:23:04:27.6::GWF,P[1009@729 GWF@test],,*,Rotter,C[602 Zombie_Minion_Rotter_Dreadring],Sure Strike,Pn.P4ekhr,Physical,,625.562,0
    18:06:30:23:04:29.4::Rotter,C[602 Zombie_Minion_Rotter_Dreadring],,*,GWF,P[1009@729 GWF@test],Slam,Pn.Mfz3so1,Physical,,3456.7,4538.17
    18:06:30:23:04:30.8::GWF,P[1009@729 GWF@test],,*,Rotter,C[602 Zombie_Minion_Rotter_Dreadring],Sure Strike,Pn.P4ekhr,Physical,,625.562,0
    18:06:30:23:04:33.7::GWF,P[1009@729 GWF@test],,*,Rotter,C[602 Zombie_Minion_Rotter_Dreadring],Sure Strike,Pn.P4ekhr,Physical,,625.562,0
    18:06:30:23:04:36.1::Rotter,C[602 Zombie_Minion_Rotter_Dreadring],,*,GWF,P[1009@729 GWF@test],Slam,Pn.Mfz3so1,Physical,,3240.55,4254.41
    18:06:30:23:04:38.0::GWF,P[1009@729 GWF@test],,*,Rotter,C[602 Zombie_Minion_Rotter_Dreadring],Sure Strike,Pn.P4ekhr,Physical,,625.562,0
    18:06:30:23:04:39.2::Rotter,C[602 Zombie_Minion_Rotter_Dreadring],,*,GWF,P[1009@729 GWF@test],Slam,Pn.Mfz3so1,Physical,,3363.89,4416.33
    18:06:30:23:04:40.7::GWF,P[1009@729 GWF@test],,*,Rotter,C[602 Zombie_Minion_Rotter_Dreadring],Sure Strike,Pn.P4ekhr,Physical,,625.562,0
    18:06:30:23:04:42.2::Rotter,C[602 Zombie_Minion_Rotter_Dreadring],,*,GWF,P[1009@729 GWF@test],Slam,Pn.Mfz3so1,Physical,,3271.3,4294.77
    18:06:30:23:04:44.0::GWF,P[1009@729 GWF@test],,*,Rotter,C[602 Zombie_Minion_Rotter_Dreadring],Sure Strike,Pn.P4ekhr,Physical,,625.562,0
    18:06:30:23:04:46.0::Rotter,C[602 Zombie_Minion_Rotter_Dreadring],,*,GWF,P[1009@729 GWF@test],Slam,Pn.Mfz3so1,Physical,,3470.71,4556.56
    18:06:30:23:04:47.3::GWF,P[1009@729 GWF@test],,*,Rotter,C[602 Zombie_Minion_Rotter_Dreadring],Sure Strike,Pn.P4ekhr,Physical,,625.562,0
    18:06:30:23:04:49.5::Rotter,C[602 Zombie_Minion_Rotter_Dreadring],,*,GWF,P[1009@729 GWF@test],Slam,Pn.Mfz3so1,Physical,,3325.95,4366.52
    18:06:30:23:04:52.2::GWF,P[1009@729 GWF@test],,*,Rotter,C[602 Zombie_Minion_Rotter_Dreadring],Sure Strike,Pn.P4ekhr,Physical,,625.562,0
    18:06:30:23:04:53.2::Rotter,C[602 Zombie_Minion_Rotter_Dreadring],,*,GWF,P[1009@729 GWF@test],Slam,Pn.Mfz3so1,Physical,,3311.06,4346.98
    18:06:30:23:04:53.9::GWF,P[1009@729 GWF@test],,*,Rotter,C[602 Zombie_Minion_Rotter_Dreadring],Sure Strike,Pn.P4ekhr,Physical,,625.562,0
    18:06:30:23:04:55.9::GWF,P[1009@729 GWF@test],,*,Rotter,C[602 Zombie_Minion_Rotter_Dreadring],Sure Strike,Pn.P4ekhr,Physical,,625.562,0
    18:06:30:23:04:56.4::GWF,P[1009@729 GWF@test],,*,Rotter,C[602 Zombie_Minion_Rotter_Dreadring],Sure Strike,Pn.P4ekhr,Physical,,625.562,0
    18:06:30:23:04:57.2::Rotter,C[602 Zombie_Minion_Rotter_Dreadring],,*,GWF,P[1009@729 GWF@test],Slam,Pn.Mfz3so1,Physical,,3374.82,4430.68
    18:06:30:23:04:58.3::GWF,P[1009@729 GWF@test],,*,Rotter,C[602 Zombie_Minion_Rotter_Dreadring],Sure Strike,Pn.P4ekhr,Physical,,625.562,0
    18:06:30:23:05:00.0::Rotter,C[602 Zombie_Minion_Rotter_Dreadring],,*,GWF,P[1009@729 GWF@test],Slam,Pn.Mfz3so1,Physical,,3475.13,4562.37
    18:06:30:23:05:00.0::GWF,P[1009@729 GWF@test],,*,Rotter,C[602 Zombie_Minion_Rotter_Dreadring],Sure Strike,Pn.P4ekhr,Physical,,625.562,0
    18:06:30:23:05:01.7::GWF,P[1009@729 GWF@test],,*,Rotter,C[602 Zombie_Minion_Rotter_Dreadring],Sure Strike,Pn.P4ekhr,Physical,,625.562,0
    18:06:30:23:05:03.5::Rotter,C[602 Zombie_Minion_Rotter_Dreadring],,*,GWF,P[1009@729 GWF@test],Slam,Pn.Mfz3so1,Physical,,3301.03,4333.81

    Result: There is no "only for 20 seconds uptime".
  • niszdog#4897 niszdog
    niszdog#4897
         Member Posts: 23 Arc User
    Ty so much for verifying that for me. I thought it seemed odd. Do you know if the old mod 13 undead Slayer +5 works with the new mod 14 ring?
  • nevertwinevertwi Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 80 Arc User
    niszdog#4897 said:

    Ty so much for verifying that for me. I thought it seemed odd. Do you know if the old mod 13 undead Slayer +5 works with the new mod 14 ring?

    Unfortunately i never got the Undead Slayer +5 Ring and currently have no plan trying to get it. Maybe someone else is able to test that.
  • thefabricantthefabricant Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 5,248 Arc User
    edited July 2018
    Would you happen to have a more detailed spreadsheet showing which enemies have been tested and which have not that you would be willing to share? For anyone who is interested in adding to this test, it would be useful information.
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  • nevertwinevertwi Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 80 Arc User
    edited July 2018
    thefabricant said:

    Would you happen to have a more detailed spreadsheet showing which enemies have been tested and which have not that you would be willing to share? For anyone who is interested in adding to this test, it would be useful information.

    I have not made a spreadsheet and just tried to test one example enemy for every mark. These mobs are already posted on post #3. To shorten the travelling way to retest them i started to use more mobs out of Dread Ring and FBI. The mobs then are:
    Overload Mark | zone of tested npc | npc
    Mark of the Troll Slayer | Sharandar | War Troll
    Mark of the Fey Slayer | Sharandar | Witherer and Powrie
    Mark of the Giant Slayer | Fangbreaker Island | Beastmaster or any other giant
    Mark of the Orc Slayer | Fangbreaker Island | Some orc
    Mark of the Lycantrophe Slayer | Vellosk | Scavenger
    Mark of the Undead Slayer | Dread Ring | Rotter and Dread Warrior
    Mark of the Demon Slayer | Dread Ring | Shrieking Cultist
    Mark of the Elemental Slayer | Dread Ring | Fire Elemental
    Mark of the Thayan Slayer | Dread Ring | Evoker and Dread Warrior
    Mark of the Dragon Slayer | Rothe Valley | Venfithar
    the not working Fey Slayer rank 2 | All above | All above
    the others not working marks | Rothe Valley | Venfithar
    I did not want to test every mob, but if i ever would do i probably would go killing all enemies in every map and logging them with the combatlog. After that a little program should write out all the enemies names and which slayer mark work on them. Of couse this is faster when others would do that too with different marks. Especially for dungeons, since every member could take 2 slayer marks and after 1 run all data would be there [- and even more data since that are some good times to test on which bosses the batiri works and if yuan ti slayer rings work on Ras Nsi. I know for sure that in gwd batiri did not work on boss #1 and #2 and just on ethraniev marrowslake]. However the number of players on preview is very slim.
  • karvarekarvare Member Posts: 264 Arc User
    Thank you for this, it is extremely useful.
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