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Loyal companion gear

manipulosmanipulos Member Posts: 235 Arc User
in Player Feedback (PC)
Please bring back a way to earn loyal companion gear, it's just so much better than what we have instead.

If you are not going to bring it back then why leave it in the game? That loyal avenger gear is looking really good for the new mod with more armor pen needed, but at 6-8mil a pop or more on the auction house it's not very attainable for most new players (or returning players like myself).

Someone tell me if I'm figuring this wrong:

Loyal Avenger ring: 1739 total stats
652 Power
652 Crit
435 Armpen

Adorable Bites ring: 869 total stats
521 Power
348 Crit

Fierce companion ring +4: 902 total stats (I think these numbers are right, I don't have one to double-check)
541 Crit
361 Power

Come on man...that's just a ridiculous difference. if you have the best NON-loyal companion gear you are losing 837 X 3 = 2,511 x 300% with 3 rank 12 bondings and a legendary companion = 7,533 stat points. I know they don't all have the same configuration of enchantment slots, I'm just talking about raw stats here.

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  • pteriaspterias Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 661 Arc User
    With Item Levels, gear stats, and enemy DR% going up next Mod, Loyal gear wouldn't be as crazy overpowered as it used to be. Add them back in, seriously!
  • wintersmokewintersmoke Member Posts: 1,641 Arc User
    manipulos said:

    Please bring back a way to earn loyal companion gear, it's just so much better than what we have instead.

    If you are not going to bring it back then why leave it in the game? That loyal avenger gear is looking really good for the new mod with more armor pen needed, but at 6-8mil a pop or more on the auction house it's not very attainable for most new players (or returning players like myself).

    Someone tell me if I'm figuring this wrong:

    Loyal Avenger ring: 1739 total stats
    652 Power
    652 Crit
    435 Armpen

    Adorable Bites ring: 869 total stats
    521 Power
    348 Crit

    Fierce companion ring +4: 902 total stats (I think these numbers are right, I don't have one to double-check)
    541 Crit
    361 Power

    Come on man...that's just a ridiculous difference. if you have the best NON-loyal companion gear you are losing 837 X 3 = 2,511 x 300% with 3 rank 12 bondings and a legendary companion = 7,533 stat points. I know they don't all have the same configuration of enchantment slots, I'm just talking about raw stats here.

    I'm sorry to say, this is not going to happen. The dev's have said that the companion gear is the replacement for the Loyal Gear. TBH, they probably would have tried a nerf to a gear they consider to be OP, except there was already a lot of bad feelings about the closing of the Gateway.

  • blur#5900 blur
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         Member Posts: 490 Arc User
    edited July 2017
    Yes the base stats of Loyal Avenger are superior but it has only 1 offense slot. Mod12 aside, Loyal Avenger was not the best gear you could get because ArPen wasnt needed that much and Adorable bites/Fierce +4/Greater Dod allowed you to focus on power and crit and thanks to 2 offense slots you were able to get more of those stats from them than from Loyal Avenger. Players were able to have enough ArPen without a single LA gear on companion.

    Sure now in the incoming mod12 ArPen is needed more and LA gear would make it more easy but i think it can be done with Bold +4 as well. I would like LA gear back as well but seems like we aint getting it.
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  • pitshadepitshade Member Posts: 5,665 Arc User
    Given how they threw the designer of the Loyal Gear under the bus on a livestream - saying something to the effect that he wasn't even a Cryptic Employee - I'd say they have Zero intentions of bringing it back. Maybe even less.
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  • artifleurartifleur Member Posts: 642 Arc User
    The IG +4 gear is pretty good and I'd be glad to get a set of it myself but the way the drop rate was designed this could easily take over 2000 gold IG runs, if not more.
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  • hammbo1969hammbo1969 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 165 Arc User
    I've got bits of Loyal gear floating on several alts which I'd like to use on one. Would be nice to have them made BtA. Could be a reward for sticking with this game since beta, despite it being HAMSTER.
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  • mightyerikssonmightyeriksson Member Posts: 842 Arc User
    As others have said, with mod 12, the Loyal Avenger items would be a perfect addition, sacrificing one offensive slot for a defensive (compared to IG+4 gear), but getting some armor-penetration would greatly increase our options for building characters.

    Also, due to loyal having one offense+defense slot, the powercreep wouldn't be increased noticeably from that gear.

    And as a bonus, it would be nice for console players to get Loyal gear, since we have never had access to it at all...
  • manipulosmanipulos Member Posts: 235 Arc User
    Companion gear from IG is a total fail from my perspective, developers could scrap it and replace it with a chance at loyal gear (Bound to Account) on gold completion and players would be very happy. There would be hundreds of instances of IG maps running the first month after this change releases! I've ran IG "only" ~60 times and I've been "lucky" enough to get four +4 drops, but 3 of them had HPs which don't even transfer. I ran it again last night with a friend for the first time in probably a month, finished gold and received a +1 green item of course.

    For those of you commenting to the effect of "the devs will never bring it back" didn't you learn how to ask for things when you were a kid? :p

    If the devs don't want Loyal gear around any more then WHY IS IT STILL IN THE GAME? There are several pages of Loyal gear for sale on the AH at any given time. When I came back to the game about 4 months ago I noticed all my old level 60 set gear (HV, HP, AoW etc.) on my characters no longer had a set bonus because the devs didn't want those set bonuses in game anymore I was told.

    I know there are bad feelings about the the Gateway and this Loyal gear is tied to that, but let's move past that and make your players happy and bring back a very popular set of items. You've given us these bonding runestones and tons of cool companions to use so we already love our little Pokemon. :D
  • urabaskurabask Member Posts: 2,923 Arc User
    edited July 2017
    pitshade said:

    Given how they threw the designer of the Loyal Gear under the bus on a livestream - saying something to the effect that he wasn't even a Cryptic Employee - I'd say they have Zero intentions of bringing it back. Maybe even less.

    Lets be honest, the only reason Cryptic won't bring back loyal is because you don't have to slot as many R12s on it as you do IG gear. It's not OP, it's just cheaper to use (at least at the prices on the AH before they cut off the supply).
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