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Best Legendary Mount for Combat HR

arcadeus#1794 arcadeus Member Posts: 10 Arc User
Hey all. I was wondering what the best legendary mount would be for a combat speced HR. For example I am a 14350 HR with 83% (goes as far as 93 with various boons kicking in but only briefly) crit chance and 145 crit severity. My power is approx 40-45k when my companion procs.

should i go for 4k power or crit?

My thoughts are that 4k power adds about 10% to damage output, while 4k crit gives me 10% greater crit chance.

When i do crit, i increase dammage by 145%, so i am thinking .1 x 145 = 14.5% damage increase.... but not everything crits.... does everything get affected by power increase?

I am very interested to hear what your thoughts are.

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  • arcadeus#1794 arcadeus Member Posts: 10 Arc User
    i should mention that i am SW with TC/GW/PG rotation
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  • jonkocajonkoca Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,586 Arc User
    edited June 2017
    PVE tensers disk, pvp lion. Crit you can get easily to 100% without needing a 4k mount bonus, power is always a good thing to stack, but the attack powers from tensers and the lion are irreplaceable.

    Tbh. though, and it's your money I guess, but you sure you don't want to just donate it to the poor pr something..? You don't need a legendary mount to succeed in this game, unless you're into bis pre made pvp.
    No idea what my toon is now.
  • mattmonroemattmonroe Member Posts: 56 Arc User
    Tensers. The 4K recovery will knock ~2 seconds off your encounter cool downs which is huge for combat specs.
  • teucer#3019 teucer Member Posts: 198 Arc User
    I agree, Tenser.
    The Legendary Outlaws
  • jonkocajonkoca Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,586 Arc User
    Don't stack recovery !!!

    Look, trash mobs, everything is dead before you've used three encounters. No recovery needed.

    Bosses, you have a D.C. buffing your cooldowns, no recovery needed.

    Solo, who cares.

    PvP, you should have the lion anyway.

    Recovery is a wasted stat for combat and trapper. Stack crit to 90% plus, then stack power. End of story.
    No idea what my toon is now.
  • mattmonroemattmonroe Member Posts: 56 Arc User
    Recovery is not a wasted stat for Combat at end-game. I'm not saying you should stack it in the place of other stats. Obviously get to 100% crit chance, and 61% RI, and get your power up. But recovery is SUPER helpful for combat. The 2 seconds off cooldowns that the Tensers 4k recovery gives you is a huge DPS boost for FBI and end-game content. Yeah, sometimes you have a DC buffing your cooldowns, but plant growth is the most important encounter for Combat HRs and the cool down is at least 19 seconds, even with a DC it's around 11. I'll take 2 seconds off that any day, as an extra 2 seconds over the course of a MSVA or FBI run adds a lot of DPS.
  • jonkocajonkoca Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,586 Arc User
    edited June 2017
    I must just have really good DCs. In Fbi and mSVA, I literally am never short of an encounter. I think I have maybe 3k recovery..?
    No idea what my toon is now.
  • teucer#3019 teucer Member Posts: 198 Arc User
    Would rather have to use only one range and switch back to melee. Playing against others top level makes the Lion moot. If the Lion is used against you, one or two hits removes that HP boost so I have not yet opened my Leg pack.
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  • arcadeus#1794 arcadeus Member Posts: 10 Arc User
    Jonkoca do you actually play a combat spec HR? Not asking to flame but I am wondering.

    Some of your comments dont add up. Getting 100 crit for a combat spec is no easy thing. We have very little in terms of feats that add to crit chance, mainly just boons and not alot of those... if we take gambit and i would seriously wonder about the player who doesnt, we lose 10 percent right off the bat...

    I stack only Azures, with 70% of them R12, the rest R11, my companion, con artist, has R12 Brutals w/R12 bondings.. i sit at about 83% crit chance... it moves up but not for long periods... i would say my average crit on a long fight is probably around 87-88%...

    flurry is key so i get the recovery thing...

    and with GW and PG in my rotation and the amount of dps those add it makes perfect sense... i run AOP w/ offhand bonus and BS for class features, so no switching to ranged except to approach with a LS.
  • mattmonroemattmonroe Member Posts: 56 Arc User
    edited June 2017
    Getting to 100% crit on a combat spec HR is definitely not easy. It's certainly doable. I stay at about 95% on mine (on purpose), however I'm very much BiS. I couldn't crack 95% until I was at 4k (in the old IL format) I'm at 16.1 right now.
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  • arcadeus#1794 arcadeus Member Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited June 2017

    I hit 101% Crit chance on combat

    for how long? And how are you doing it? Gear score?

    Mine will go up to as high as 103 but for seconds and only once every few minutes.
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  • jonkocajonkoca Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,586 Arc User
    Pet with double offence slot and loyal avenger gear, boons, r12 azures etc. Spike crit is about 32k. Power around 70k. I'm pretty much bis.

    And seriously yes, I play combat. You do not need to stack recovery.
    No idea what my toon is now.
  • teucer#3019 teucer Member Posts: 198 Arc User
    edited June 2017
    Adding recovery makes it possible to stay in melee, we don't do that much work with range. I find it amusing peeps mentioning their gear score, does not apply to this subject.

    I'll crack open my Leg pack tonight and play with the Lion.
    The Legendary Outlaws
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  • rhadamathysrhadamathys Member Posts: 310 Arc User
    I like imp rage drake for the 4k CS. I keep my Crit Chance at 99% (boons kick it to 101, but only for short times and whatevs) and that helps ensure I'm there. I'm also combat so I lose 10% CC...thus it makes it super important...I used to be trapper, but frankly love combat way more now even though trapper does more dps....as a trapper you don't need rage drake, you can get 99% without it. In that case, go with 4k power. Keep in mind, you wont be 14k forever, plan for max and adjust along the way.

    I'm a firm believer in the max CC based on my group comp/etc. A lot of your style should depend on how/who you normally play with.

    Also, I suggest getting away from the sudden rings. Rising is better, imo, for more consistent damage. but better than that is the dod/bites/etc rings. I'd much rather 475 all the time rather than 4k bursts or building up via rising.

    For those who are curious, I run brutals in all offense, vicious in all def, I have 1 black ice and 1 azure and rest brutals on my companion. But I'm not running the new armor but will have it this week, once I do, that'll most likely change my need for the azure on my comp, we'll see though.
    Ney - HR (max item level)
    The Legendary Outlaws

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  • rhadamathysrhadamathys Member Posts: 310 Arc User

    Recovery is not a wasted stat for Combat at end-game. I'm not saying you should stack it in the place of other stats. Obviously get to 100% crit chance, and 61% RI, and get your power up. But recovery is SUPER helpful for combat. The 2 seconds off cooldowns that the Tensers 4k recovery gives you is a huge DPS boost for FBI and end-game content. Yeah, sometimes you have a DC buffing your cooldowns, but plant growth is the most important encounter for Combat HRs and the cool down is at least 19 seconds, even with a DC it's around 11. I'll take 2 seconds off that any day, as an extra 2 seconds over the course of a MSVA or FBI run adds a lot of DPS.

    well said, I'd point out a few other things, shifting lowers your cooldowns. Recovery helps with stamina regen, thus you get a double whammy with it. I'm around 8k fully proc'd which gets my stam regen to 50% and that doesn't include split strike's bonus to stam regen or glad guile. Add in Slasher's Mark and you can really cool down fast solo or in group.
    Ney - HR (max item level)
    The Legendary Outlaws

    Preferences:
    PvE and PvP - Pathfinder Combat
  • dmcewendmcewen Member Posts: 279 Arc User
    I don't think recovery has anything to do with stamina regen, unless the changed something recently. Recovery gives AP gain and recharge speed increase. The 4K recovery from the disk doesn't change my stamina gain on my character sheet either.
    Guild: Ruthless
    Character: Vendetta
  • rayrdanrayrdan Member Posts: 5,410 Arc User
    im using legacy axe beak and lion
  • eliybeatseliybeats Member Posts: 186 Arc User
    Tenser's is bis for us. I normally rock with the mount bonus but I notice when it comes to racing others, Tenser's always gave me an extra edge and usually I've kept up with or surpassed them. This is even with 2 Bis dcs in party or one op /dc. It's slight, but if I want the best dps it's what I use. I used to stack around 75-77k power as well with protectors and now have knocked off a bit more of it as well for recovery and Crit severity. I haven't looked back. People who I usually race can confirm to this. I'm at about 8.4k recovery including tenser's bonus and when I find a way to keep my Crit at a happy medium without sacrificing more I'm reslotting my rising focus. Hope that helps.
  • eliybeatseliybeats Member Posts: 186 Arc User
    N no it doesn't give stamina regen. Not sure where you got that from dude
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