Orcus used to be unique - didn't move but at least hit hard. Now it's too easy.
I just ran CN with my GF, running my Conqueror loadout and I didn't even have to block any of Orcus' attacks. Not one. Barely even had to use Fighters Recovery. I'm 11.7K and not fully optimised.
Orcus used to be fun, took some skill and timing. Now he is pathetic - a longer, more boring end boss.
Please undo this.
When did the definition of minimum gear score mean that was what you had to be for a Dungeon to be challenging? I thought it was supposed to be what you needed to be to have a chance at finishing it.
If I can just stand there and not even need to block, the nerf is too much. There is nothing else to that end boss other than the hard hits, he doesn't move, there are no adds . . . . I guess you could consider the death spheres as something but when they are more of a challenge than the main boss itself, well something is wrong.
and making a boss fight go for longer, doesn't make it more interesting
Just make a baby version of the Castle - replace Orcus with an imp or something, call it Castle Easy
anyway just my feedback, still plenty to like in the game
I think the nerf to some of his bigger hits was likely in part necessary! It could be true perhaps they could have overdone the nerf a little but it certainly shouldn't go back to anywhere close to where it was.
Still I'm not sure how I feel about giving him a lot more HP to make the fight drag out that much more.
Worst, the fight is so long and boring now. Without a few 13K+ DPS and good buffs, ZZZZZzzzz....
Devs should make another CN in which Orcus has his former damage output. I guess that (judging for your feedback, including that of Sharp), out of the nerfs that have happened since mid - late last year up to now, Orcus' is a pretty savage one in comparison and therefore should be looked at.
For all everyone complains about CN being easy it's probably the most played dungeon after elol. If anything we need fewer dungeons like MSP and FBI and more dungeons like CN.
After sitting there letting Orcus hit me with my Conq build, and not wanting to run CN anymore. I decided to try mSP for a challenge. I got owned big time at the 2nd boss and was told that my Defence was nowhere near high enough (and I was using my Buff/Tank build so I had more defence then when I was in CN). Just seems now like difference between CN and mSP is huge.
Perhaps what I need to do, is get over my stubbornness about fishing, Everfrost Resistance etc. and give FBI a go. Hopefully that is somewhere between CN and mSP and more suitable for my gear/ability.
Or rework my Tank build and get back on the horse and into mSP
tbh - having not run FBI and staying in CN for the last 12 months or so has probably made me lazy. Maybe this is the foot in the bum that I needed
Orcus nerf was to much. You dont need a tank anymore. Thats kinda boring.
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Use to be the litmus test for tanking skill.
They fixed GF Protector capstone same time as neutering Orcus.
With 4 Stacks of Iron Guard and decent DR, turn around and let him give you a nice back massage.
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If the intent was to get folks to engage with the mechanics, it's kind of a flop. Now we're not even afraid of balls.
i think you never learned what orcus made and when he makes it. We need dungeons where are tanks needed. Do you need a tank in CN till that "fix"? So...great job...another dungeon where is no tank needed.
I bet on that same tank you on back when it was below 9,500 item level, you would go in there with full HDPS and OP friends to kill Orucs in seconds. But the fact of the matter is that not everyone has friends to party with, not everyone has a guild they wish to join to do runs with. There are people that like to play the game and be able to do their job, but a boss that does over 400,000+ damage in EVERY SINGLE ATTACK is just ridiculous. See, cause you are here thinking about how lame it is now that you are overpowered to even be in there, but you do not think of the rest of the lower geared players out there. It's always about you, you, you, YOU!
The heck you even in Castle Never at 11,000+ to begin with?.. You want a challenge, get yourself into FBI then. This game isn't about you, it is about everybody that plays it. Orcus needed a HUGE nerf on his damage, it was just far too much and it was obviously something that wasn't even intended, it took a while to get it fixed but finally it is. I remember back before the nerf I had to sit at Castle Never not on my tank but on any class I am playing on waiting for a high item level tank to come in, or a DC/CW/SW/HR that could solo Orcus, it was freaking annoying. There were times I spent in there well over 5 hours because all the players that would jump in would be too low. I'm glad for the nerf, finally people who are on par with the item level of the dungeon can do their job.
Stop thinking of yourselves when your item level is so high, everything will be easy at some point and it seems that it is starting to be regardless. Stop thinking about you, think about the others in the game that haven't yet reached it, thank you. You want a real challenge? Well drop your high geared character and create a new one, or strip your character of all its gear so you get one shotted by everything, there's your challenege. When you find yourself over 5 hours in the same instance in a single day, you wouldn't be thinking all that stuff. On top of that, no boss in the game 1 hit kills with EVERY SINGLE ATTACK like Orcus does. I can understand in ONE attack which might 1 hit kill like in Cragmire Crypt (Master) where the pirate boss guy tosses his bomb and the explosion would 1 hit kill almost everyone in the radius... But every single melee attack doing well over 1 hit killing damage?... That's just damn stupid.
If I am up to gear, I want to get in there, do my job and GTFO, period.
Tanks are always needed, I know very well this fact for my main is a Guardian Fighter tank, and I even have a Paladin tank also, so that is two tanks. The fastest queues that pop are when I am on my tank, so I have no idea where you getting "tanks aren't needed". Tanks weren't even needed back when Orucs did crazy damage since almost any DC/SW/CW/HR could solo Orcus anyway, so I don't know what you are going on about. That single GWF running with you in The Temple Of The Spider (Master) who is well over 14,000+ item level, yeah sure he runs though the whole thing in seconds... But when the boss fight comes, they can't solo the boss without a tank, I seen it and I been there. I can understand that tanks are needed, but not only overpowered high gear tanks. Where do you leave the just over the item level tanks at?.. So to you the tanks that are "needed" got to be over 11,000? Boy please, don't come over here with that mess.
Two tanks, right here buddy.
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As far as soloing stuff, I am pretty sure we are close to the point we will see FBI solos, in fact, I know some people who have already done it.
i have to agree with zeatrex, the only way a op/gf tank could hold out at a low item level against orcus is with a dc or paly healing them only, more preferred a dc though. each hit would bring the paly/gf down to around 10% or lower, only save point for the paly/gf would be when orcus turned around and slapped a tanking pet that was probably around. if no tanking pet was around orcus then the gf/paly would more likely die on the second melee hit if the dc/paly healer didnt focus their heals on them quickly. i believe whatever paly/gf you saw "tanking" orcus was pretty much getting immunity from astro shield divine x3 empowered abilities or a paly healer that was a high item level which just one cure wounds right/left click would instantly heal him completely. other then that, no a low item level tank which was just about the required item level, not even 9.5k tanks could tank orcus unless they had a real good dc/paly healer in the party.
And sry...but sharp didnt say anything wrong. You dont need that attitude.
I still think there was no need to "fix" orcus that way. It was a skill check. We need bosses where you need at least a bit of skill. Now no skill needed anymore at orcus. He is just tickeling. This cant be the right way in NW.