DC weapon enchants

adinosii

I have two different loadouts (working on a third, but that's irrelvant here)

Both are DO Righteous, but the stats, boons and powers differ.

One is for solo play, focused on personal DPS.

The other is for group play, focused on buffs/debuffs with the goal of maximizing the overall DPS of the group.

I am currently using the Aboleth weapon set, but will be refining the Fey set as well...the idea is to use Aboleth with the first loadout and Fey with the second.

The question - which weapon enchants would you consider the "best" for each loadout?

dupeks

I don't think that there is one single answer, especially since a lot of WE selection depends on your specific build (and your budget). But let's speculate a little.

For solo dps, are you a high crit or low crit build?

For high crit builds, Dread is king for the big hits (and heals too) and the DoT is useful for procing sins. I've seen a vorp now and again too, but I think that's a slight downgrade.

For low crit builds, I don't know as well personally but I'd guess your options look similar to other dps classes. Lightning for trash. Flaming might not be awful budget option for the DoT procing sins. Fey is also viable, although often not ideal in group settings (and tanks / PVPers wear these). I'm not sure I've ever seen a DC with bilethorn or holy avenger, and I can't speak to whether those are viable.

Or you could grab a debuffy WEs (see below). Terror in particular seems to strike a nice balance of debuff/dps.

For party buff, you want to go for the debuffy WEs: Frost, PF, Terror. Annoyingly, all 3 have slightly buggy stacking behavior as of right now (credit to michaela123 see https://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/neverwinter#/discussion/comment/12960759 ). So ideally, you don't want to have duplicates of any in the party. But carrying around a full set of debuff WEs is an expensive proposition. So you probably make a choice and dive in:

Frost has OK damage and a nice debuff (and slow), but relatively short uptime and longer downtime. Good if you're melting everything in 10sec, because then the uptime is 100%.

PF has meh damage, but a consistent debuff and damage debuff and DoT for proc'ing sins. Good debuffing but the stacking bug right now means it's not great in big group content where you're likely to run into another PF user. I'd also posit that CWs are a tad better at spreading PF around than DCs.

Terror has good damage and a lesser debuff (and short root). Good compromise, and at least the stacking bug with this one isn't as bad. It's also less popular so you're more likely to be the only terror user. And the visual is excellent (especially for a dps DC)

So.... options.

I run a Dread on my RiAC and RiDO dps/solo loadouts, and a frost on my ViAC and RiAC party loadouts. YMMV

adinosii

My Crit% is somewhere around 65% - decent, but not really a "high-crit" build, and I actually have a Trans Dread on my Aboleth weapon at the moment. It's really not that critical what to use in my "solo" configuration...I am more concerned about what to use in my "group" loadout - again, the primary goal being to maximize the group DPS. I have a Terror and vorpal lying around somewhere, but could get any other for that matter.

dupeks

adinosii said:

My Crit% is somewhere around 65% - decent, but not really a "high-crit" build, and I actually have a Trans Dread on my Aboleth weapon at the moment. It's really not that critical what to use in my "solo" configuration...I am more concerned about what to use in my "group" loadout - again, the primary goal being to maximize the group DPS. I have a Terror and vorpal lying around somewhere, but could get any other for that matter.

If I were you, I'd stick with terror until they address the stacking bugs on the other debuff WEs... or they rework debuffs altogether.

I wouldn't feel right recommending PF or Frost in their current state unless you already have them. They give a marginal improvement over Terror, but the stacking bugs are a real concern and the marginal improvement is not worth the cost imo.

Some relevant discussion here btw:
https://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/neverwinter#/discussion/comment/12958136

thefabricant

A little bit of logic says if you are a support AC, you should use PF and if you are a support DO, you should use frost. This is all of course assuming there isn't someone else in the party using the same enchant, in which case you should switch. The reasoning being that DO has bots, which is a dot and good for applying bys. AC does not have bots, but pf is another convenient dot.

dread4moor

I leave trans vorpal on my high (ish) crit RiDO for both as it has a debuff.
Also cause I'm too cheap to keep two trans WEs and too lazy to swap with every toon switch.

Many ways to proc ByS/Condemned outside of the WE, including BotS as has been mentioned. DoT WE not mandatory.

But if you can afford two WEs, Frost or PF are still viable group choices.
Yes, stacking can be an issue. And the frost cooldown, but wadayagonnado.

Unless you only play with the exact same crew with complimentary WEs, you can't worry about that too much.

Love/hate relationship with my Trans Terror. Love the animation. Hate the "meh" debuff (compared to it's peers). Not awful. It does work, but meh.

putzboy78

the advantage of not relying on bots for bys is because bots is slow and single target. That's one reason two reasons to look beyond bots for spreading bys around and worth consideration.

pitshade

NB Divine Oracles are not botters but instead Dedicated Players!

voidgift

> @thefabricant said:
> The reasoning being that DO has bots, which is a dot and good for applying bys.

I need an upgrade. Could someone patch me the meaning of 'bots' and 'bys'?

dread4moor

> @voidgift said:
> > @thefabricant said:
> > The reasoning being that DO has bots, which is a dot and good for applying bys.
>
> I need an upgrade. Could someone patch me the meaning of 'bots' and 'bys'?
>
>

Brand of the Sun - at will with a damage over time
Bear Your Sins - feat that applies stacking debuff with damage.

panteleelee

For your dps build you can use vorpal-dread or light(especially light)...
Now for the sec build if u play full buffer-debuffer plaguefire is only way. the best ench for the buffer-debuffer dc, especially after boost in mod11.

illhora

the way to go for my crit build is atm :

RIDO : Dread w/ Lighttender's set weapons for soloing or DPS support.
RIAC : Frost w/ Fey set weapons (changing to PF or Terror if needed)

nothing Revolutionary, works just fine