Today's Dev Blog

xinexix

First off I'd like to say that it's not fair that PC gets 3 giveaways while PS4 AND Xbox only get 1 (That's 1 to share). Also to the community: The devs didn't address any of our concerns. In fact they seemed to avoid console discussion all together. While I like the idea of new content and SH pvp, I do not like the fact that it will probably be 6 months to a year before we experience any of these changes. Just my 2 cents.

armadeonx

There is and always has been an imbalance that borders(?) on favoritism between PC and consoles in regard to how the developers interact with the players.

There are many things that console players miss out on and the devs just cannot be bothered to ever introduce:

Custom chat channels, preview servers, gear to name but a few things (I don't count ACT as it's a 3rd party plugin). You'll also never see a dev comment on a console forum thread but you do see it sometimes on the PC side.

The giveaways on the Dev Blog just emphasise my point.

@mimicking#6533

ravenskya

@mimicking#6533

Last night I flipped my HAMPSTER

I'm generally a pretty calm and easy going person. I'm the one that sorts out the rifts in the guild and even between players I've never met. I've stuck up for this game since I started playing it and even invested in it (through spending real $$). I watched the dev stream the other day and was actually happy about a lot of what I heard. Then I played last night. While playing I was listening to the repeat of the dev stream since I missed part of it when it was live. And I completely lost it.

My healadin has 4 items ready to level (an artifact and three bonding runestones) they have been ready to level since last Saturday during double refinement.

I have used over 200 preservation wards already just to level the few things that I did manage to level. I had saved up a handful more and tried again last night. 10% chance to upgrade and all 17 or so failed. This is the third day I've tried to upgrade this same artifact. Over 50 preservation wards on a 10% chance.

that's when I lost it.

I had to win the RNG lotto to GET the equipment I have, you can't just run this game and get it - you have to have luck on top of it to even acquire the equipment. Then you have to win the RNG lotto HOW MANY TIMES to get the right marks to upgrade? then on top of it you have to sit there and play the lotto again over and over and over trying to win every time you want to UPGRADE? I don't gamble because I consider it to be stupid. The only way to move forward in this game is to either have luck or to pay for enough changes to buy your luck.

At the point I was losing my mind and ready to delete the game over the fury of being forced to play this idiotic lotto over and over and over just to progress - I hear the @mimicking#6533 on the dev stream talking about how players want more loot in chests and that they are working on making new stuff. And that's when I realized how sideways this all was.

So I am here @mimicking#6533 to explain to you what we (I) actually want.

First understand that you have created a game that does not reward hard work - there is nothing you get in this game that does not have a luck component involved OTHER THAN the artifact weapon set that you get at 70/finishing Spinward. That setup was entirely acceptable to me. You work your way through content and are rewarded appropriately.

So rather than making new junk for us - since you have created this rng monster. put what we actually NEED in the chests at the end of dungeons. Put preservation wards, coal wards and level appropriate marks in the chests. THAT would make for a happier player base. I don't need any more companions that I can't sell/trade - Give us what we NEED. Put appropriate marks in the chests - beginning dungeons= Green, Mid dungeons = blue, Master epics = purple, FBI and MSVA = the junk for the relics, The new stuff we haven't seen = whatever we need to upgrade those. Make them UNBOUND and guarantee either a ward or a mark in EVERY CHEST. THAT would make a chest worth a key.

I dealt with all of the mistakes so far - I dealt with no aoes in dungeons, I dealt with the fact that my two main characters are the two most unloved in the game, I've dealt with keygate causing half of my guild to leave the game, I've dealt with shoddy broken groups, broken inventory, glitches causing me to have to complete quests off of the visuals on the minimaps only, I've dealt with characters locked in reclamation rock, a broken guild bank and everything else. But what will make me leave this game is the garbage to upgrade my artifacts. I worked for it - I got the requirements, and now I have to wait on your RNGesus to bless me? NO! NO NO NO!

urabask

xinexix said:

First off I'd like to say that it's not fair that PC gets 3 giveaways while PS4 AND Xbox only get 1 (That's 1 to share). Also to the community: The devs didn't address any of our concerns. In fact they seemed to avoid console discussion all together. While I like the idea of new content and SH pvp, I do not like the fact that it will probably be 6 months to a year before we experience any of these changes. Just my 2 cents.

They said console gets updates after PC because of the certification process. They're not going to delay patches on PC because of the delay caused by that. This should be old news to anyone that plays a multi-platform game on console.

devlin

urabask said:

xinexix said:

First off I'd like to say that it's not fair that PC gets 3 giveaways while PS4 AND Xbox only get 1 (That's 1 to share). Also to the community: The devs didn't address any of our concerns. In fact they seemed to avoid console discussion all together. While I like the idea of new content and SH pvp, I do not like the fact that it will probably be 6 months to a year before we experience any of these changes. Just my 2 cents.

They said console gets updates after PC because of the certification process. They're not going to delay patches on PC because of the delay caused by that. This should be old news to anyone that plays a multi-platform game on console.

**Unless it's the key change** That one they can get through the certification process really fast.

xinexix

The main point i'm trying to make is we should be given the same amount of attention that pc players get. While the pc player base might want more loot in their chests (idk if thats true or not), console players simply want a game that WORKS. Instead of just porting the game to the ps4 and then going back to pc we want the devs to stay and think "what can we do to make the game better on the console? What serious bugs have developed and how can we fix them?". Let me be clear, i have absolutely no problem waiting 5 years for a new mod as long as the devs are using that time to address the issues with our current and past mods. Isn't that why they split their resources and staff into pc and console? So we'd all have representatives for our platforms?

urabask

devlin#3775 said:

urabask said:

xinexix said:

First off I'd like to say that it's not fair that PC gets 3 giveaways while PS4 AND Xbox only get 1 (That's 1 to share). Also to the community: The devs didn't address any of our concerns. In fact they seemed to avoid console discussion all together. While I like the idea of new content and SH pvp, I do not like the fact that it will probably be 6 months to a year before we experience any of these changes. Just my 2 cents.

They said console gets updates after PC because of the certification process. They're not going to delay patches on PC because of the delay caused by that. This should be old news to anyone that plays a multi-platform game on console.

**Unless it's the key change** That one they can get through the certification process really fast.

The key change hit with the module 10.5 release on console. It was already part of that patch. PC got it faster than it should've because they had meet deadlines to have it hit console.

xinexix said:

The main point i'm trying to make is we should be given the same amount of attention that pc players get. While the pc player base might want more loot in their chests (idk if thats true or not), console players simply want a game that WORKS. Instead of just porting the game to the ps4 and then going back to pc we want the devs to stay and think "what can we do to make the game better on the console? What serious bugs have developed and how can we fix them?". Let me be clear, i have absolutely no problem waiting 5 years for a new mod as long as the devs are using that time to address the issues with our current and past mods. Isn't that why they split their resources and staff into pc and console? So we'd all have representatives for our platforms?

Seriously? Even the console crowd wants more loot in chests. You're delusional if you think otherwise.

Also, virtually no game development studios are in a position to stop releasing content and do nothing but fix bugs. Any game that actually does that is just asking for failure. I mean ffs, five years? You're basically asking that they spend the remaining life span the game has fixing bugs.

grandpaogre

Maybe if the devs would use the old ways and actually make a game that isn't broken when they kick it out the door, then they wouldn't have bugs to fix. And for people who haven't experienced those days, yes they actually tested their content before releasing to the general public. They had testers, and not in house right at the server testers who found all the bugs. But sadly, I believe those days are for a by gone era.

loboguild

What dev blog is this referring to?​​

ravenskya

I assume the Dev stream from last Tuesday

ravenskya

I'm okay with the PC getting things first - provided said things with issues are fixed prior to console release.

xinexix

@urabask You seem to be misunderstanding what I'm saying. I didn't state that players don't want more loot. My exact words were "idk if that's true or not". Also the 5 years comment was a hypothetical situation. Obviously they wouldn't drop everything to fix bugs forever. I only asked that they address some of the issues we've been facing.

I hope I was able to clear that up for you.

mebengalsfan

What does this game have for RNG.

1)Lockboxes: I have seen one player use 40 keys the past 3 weekends and get a Legendary mount each weekend. I tried the same thing one time with that player and got all junk. 100% RNG and there are multiple layers of RNG within LBs. What I would like to see if some type of bad luck counter if you have not gotten an epic or legendary box. Once you get an epic or legendary box the bad luck counter resets. This way, if you have a string of bad luck you eventually will be award a legendary or epic pack or item from the LB.

2)Treasure Chest Awards: I have to say the update has been great but I think anything we pull out of the chest with our dungeon key that is a companion, mount, or artifact should be bond on equip, this way we can trade it.

3)As Raven stated, it would be nice if more items were given a higher % chance of dropping and added to the chest: Wards, Enchantments, RuneStones (including bonding), Marks, etc...things that can help us improve our IL or character overall.


If these are implemented I would be a much happier adventurer.