crit chance scaling?

gduff

So after upgrading several pieces of equipment and enchantments, my crit chance score was bumped up by about 2000 points. however, the % indicator on my character stats only increased like %1. I thought every 400 points was equal to %1 of chance increase. Is there some weird item level scaling or something that i am not aware of?

ravenskya

That one might be a JT question... I have no idea

mebengalsfan

I noticed something similar with Arm Pen. I got 1% increase in RI for every 100 arm pen up to about 4K in Arm Pen. After that Arm Pen increases at diminishing return, meaning I now had to put 150 to get a 1% increase.

As for your critical strike issue, did you change feats?

I know for my CW there are feats that boost critical chance by up to 10% and when I changed feat path I lost that and I was wondering what happened to my character.

There are many things to consider if a stat does not move as expected.

I know in one game I had log off and relog to have the stats fix after getting a new enchantment.

rjc9000

gduff#9306 said:

So after upgrading several pieces of equipment and enchantments, my crit chance score was bumped up by about 2000 points. however, the % indicator on my character stats only increased like %1. I thought every 400 points was equal to %1 of chance increase. Is there some weird item level scaling or something that i am not aware of?

Check what zone you're in. Older/lower level zones use weirdo stat curves.

(In mod 6, this was the weird source of when leveling your character got you weaker due to having the same amount of stats, but with worse scaling).

Specifically, when level 60 was the level cap (Mod5 on PC), Crit chance hit huge diminishing returns. Like, to the point where adding 1000 Crit would add less than a % difference.

Check if you got Bondings or certain crit bonuses leftover (I doubt this is the case, but I've had my crit numbers screwed because my Survivors Wraps kept the Conq capstone active). If this isn't the case, then I have no clue what to tell you.

ArmPen does have a wonky scaling and I think it has its own diminishing returns (I recall Sharpie testing ArmPen, of which he noted 18k was when it hit diminishing returns, as stupid as it sounds), but I'd rather not do algebra or trig when determining my stats.

armadeonx

If you go to PE (so no scaling) and manually add up your points you can see roughly where it should be.

First of all, what's your class? Your ability stats may add some crit chance; e.g. the GWF gets points from DEX so having 25 points here will give you +15 to Crit Chance.

Then take your Critical Strike stat and divide by 400; e.g. 10,000 / 400 = 25% chance

There's no need to check boons as they add directly to your Crit Strike.

Just add the two together and it should reflect your Crit Chance total. If your character is below what you'd expect start removing gear that has crit points and recalculate until you find the point where it gets back to equalling 400 to 1%.

The thing is unless you have a really high Crit Strike stat you shouldn't really see a problem, even with a minor curve it shouldn't get to a point where 2000 pts = 1%. It's more likely one of the following:

* when you added gear, you replaced some that already had some crit points on it so you should look for the difference between the two instead of the value on the new gear
* your crit strike points updated but your crit chance stat hadn't refreshed properly - should be fixable by logging out and back in
* you are in a zone where you're being auto-levelled up or down; fixable by going to PE to check.
* If your new points = roughly 400 to 1% but you still think it's wrong, is it possible you're mis-remembering the original score?
* did you do a respec and lower the points in the field that boosts your crit chance?

javviier

i didint take my time to read all posts... but ... i have a quick answer.. its Called "Diminishing Return" after certain amount of ARP/Crit u start getting less and less from each point... and everytime u get more and more.. the Diminishing gets higher

gduff

armadeonx said:

If you go to PE (so no scaling) and manually add up your points you can see roughly where it should be.

First of all, what's your class? Your ability stats may add some crit chance; e.g. the GWF gets points from DEX so having 25 points here will give you +15 to Crit Chance.

Then take your Critical Strike stat and divide by 400; e.g. 10,000 / 400 = 25% chance

There's no need to check boons as they add directly to your Crit Strike.

Just add the two together and it should reflect your Crit Chance total. If your character is below what you'd expect start removing gear that has crit points and recalculate until you find the point where it gets back to equalling 400 to 1%.

The thing is unless you have a really high Crit Strike stat you shouldn't really see a problem, even with a minor curve it shouldn't get to a point where 2000 pts = 1%. It's more likely one of the following:

* when you added gear, you replaced some that already had some crit points on it so you should look for the difference between the two instead of the value on the new gear
* your crit strike points updated but your crit chance stat hadn't refreshed properly - should be fixable by logging out and back in
* you are in a zone where you're being auto-levelled up or down; fixable by going to PE to check.
* If your new points = roughly 400 to 1% but you still think it's wrong, is it possible you're mis-remembering the original score?
* did you do a respec and lower the points in the field that boosts your crit chance?

Thanks for that. i'm not sure whats going on exactly, i havent been on in a few days so i haven't had time to research it. my toon is a SW. I didn't respec feats and i only have one feat that affects crit chance (+3%). i didn't change gear either, i only upgraded enchants and artifact gear/artifacts. I will try and go to PE and see what my stats look like. Didnt know that it would change based on what zone

mebengalsfan

gduff#9306 said:

armadeonx said:

If you go to PE (so no scaling) and manually add up your points you can see roughly where it should be.

First of all, what's your class? Your ability stats may add some crit chance; e.g. the GWF gets points from DEX so having 25 points here will give you +15 to Crit Chance.

Then take your Critical Strike stat and divide by 400; e.g. 10,000 / 400 = 25% chance

There's no need to check boons as they add directly to your Crit Strike.

Just add the two together and it should reflect your Crit Chance total. If your character is below what you'd expect start removing gear that has crit points and recalculate until you find the point where it gets back to equalling 400 to 1%.

The thing is unless you have a really high Crit Strike stat you shouldn't really see a problem, even with a minor curve it shouldn't get to a point where 2000 pts = 1%. It's more likely one of the following:

* when you added gear, you replaced some that already had some crit points on it so you should look for the difference between the two instead of the value on the new gear
* your crit strike points updated but your crit chance stat hadn't refreshed properly - should be fixable by logging out and back in
* you are in a zone where you're being auto-levelled up or down; fixable by going to PE to check.
* If your new points = roughly 400 to 1% but you still think it's wrong, is it possible you're mis-remembering the original score?
* did you do a respec and lower the points in the field that boosts your crit chance?

Thanks for that. i'm not sure whats going on exactly, i havent been on in a few days so i haven't had time to research it. my toon is a SW. I didn't respec feats and i only have one feat that affects crit chance (+3%). i didn't change gear either, i only upgraded enchants and artifact gear/artifacts. I will try and go to PE and see what my stats look like. Didnt know that it would change based on what zone

Make sure you go into an area where no other player is or you may end up with some wierd stat scaling. I have seen this a few times but if I move out to an area where no other player is, my stats are correct.