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  • ltgamesttv#0999 ltgamesttv Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,438 Arc User
    edited March 2017



    Addendum: No SW can survive 2v1 at end game.

    This is so NOT true. All we need is a little time to gather 30 soulsparks. Thats your timeframe and only chance to make your kill.

    This is so NOT true. Put any of our endgame guys like TR/GF/HR clearers on you in a 2v1... you WILL die. I promise. Even with all your soulsparks... too much burst damage.
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  • paixnidiaris2paixnidiaris2 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 16 Arc User
    I am surprised that a Synergy officer claims that. I can only assumed that you dont have any active SWs in your guild to practice on. Since most of the other guilds allready figure it out (like Forseken Rebels and EoA), i will tell you how :
    You need 3 people. One to control (CW), one to buff (GF) and one to make the kill (TR with SE). Ofcource your timing needs to be perfect.

    Please, you or any other, dont confuse sparked SW Soulbinders with CWs or even Hellbringers.
    PavlosT, PVP Scourge Warlock
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  • ltgamesttv#0999 ltgamesttv Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,438 Arc User
    @paixnidiaris2 We will gladly test this with you if you'd like to "prove" my assessment incorrect. Just contact us in game. There is always the possibility we are wrong. I'd be glad to accept proof of this and correct my opinion. We have some of the best SWs in the game who are quite active.

    Feel free to show us how wrong we are :wink:
    On ambush rings: "How would you like PVE if all the mobs were invisible?"

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  • paixnidiaris2paixnidiaris2 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 16 Arc User
    I like your attitude, hats off to that. The best way to prove the claim, is in a actual 5 vs 5 premade where time spend to kill a player is also a factor. Next time you'll sync with Gutbusters Brigate, i will be there (allready played vs you many times, check stats)
    PavlosT, PVP Scourge Warlock
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  • ltgamesttv#0999 ltgamesttv Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,438 Arc User
    edited March 2017

    I like your attitude, hats off to that. The best way to prove the claim, is in a actual 5 vs 5 premade where time spend to kill a player is also a factor. Next time you'll sync with Gutbusters Brigate, i will be there (allready played vs you many times, check stats)

    Yes we have, and I've seen you die 2v1 (not an insult to your skill or build, just a class limiation vs. clearers) which is why I say, I'll be glad to test. I'd also say that 5v5 is NOT the best way to test what I have said. A sustained 2v1 is the best way to test which may or may not happen in a Premade match. That said, get in contact with Flynn and we can schedule a PMvsPM, it will be fun!
    On ambush rings: "How would you like PVE if all the mobs were invisible?"

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  • benyrbenyr Member Posts: 238 Arc User
    I play an end game op tank (4.3k+) full pvp gear etc. It doesnt feel this black and white to me.
    There are some classes i cant go up against in pvp. A gf will always beat me eventually. A hr will always beat me quickly and a tr is too fast for me to be able to get hold of.
    However i have decent results against sw, cw and gwf (never gone 1 v 1 with an end game dc in pvp) all of whom i can resist long enough to hit with a binding oath, divine justice combo whilst vow of enmity is cast.
    Im built to near max def, but sacrifice hp for power and ar pen, so i can get damage through and generate enough temp hp to keep me going through rorations.
    That said i take your point, we def have to work a lot harder than most classes and those hr's are way too over powered
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  • paixnidiaris2paixnidiaris2 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 16 Arc User

    Clonkyo, I think some people just face pugs all the time and got a different view on things.

    So i guess you imply me, for having wrong view on things due to solo queue. I hate flame wars so i wont start uploading screenshots, videos etc I think there are plenty out there for everyone to search.

    You upload a 15'' video to prove what? That a TR can do huge damage with SE if buffed from a GF? Did i just came down from camp? Was i really fighting?. Just because you did it once and had a good timing means that you can always do it? If two people manage to kill a SW after 2-3' you count that as a win? The list of questions can go on.

    Although i respect you Ryu, i am really dissapointed. Its like bad journalism where you cut sentences and words to change their meaning.

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  • spideymtspideymt Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 710 Arc User


    This is only a 80k SE because weapon set from mod 5. Our top TRs hit up to 180k by themselves. Add GF buff and you clear anything.

    Hi and no offense, but arent you the one who said YT "proove" is dumb? And is this thread still about pve damage in pvp or something else?

  • waywardwizard#4349 waywardwizard Member Posts: 201 Arc User
    benyr said:

    I play an end game op tank (4.3k+) full pvp gear etc. It doesnt feel this black and white to me.

    There are some classes i cant go up against in pvp. A gf will always beat me eventually. A hr will always beat me quickly and a tr is too fast for me to be able to get hold of.

    However i have decent results against sw, cw and gwf (never gone 1 v 1 with an end game dc in pvp) all of whom i can resist long enough to hit with a binding oath, divine justice combo whilst vow of enmity is cast.

    Im built to near max def, but sacrifice hp for power and ar pen, so i can get damage through and generate enough temp hp to keep me going through rorations.

    That said i take your point, we def have to work a lot harder than most classes and those hr's are way too over powered

    Up to play style imo. In PVP my op registers just barely above 4k but no GF can kill me, TRs cant kill me either strictly 1x1 speaking. The one class that might clear my OP solo is a HR. Of course I happen to go into PVP with at least 1 self heal slotted. That being said, Paladins are like at the bottom when it comes to damage dealing in pvp.
  • finalfantasyac7finalfantasyac7 Member Posts: 582 Arc User
    edited March 2017
    Piercing damage is a cheap way to kill anyone, requires 0% skills.
    With decent cc, buff and high burst damage you can kill a SW. Nothing special about it !
    Unlike other classes, you as a SW need good skills to survive most classes such as Tr, Hr, Gwf, Gf.
    Im sure some 1 said SW's are balanced and i agree with that. They can choose between being tanky and deal less dps or glasscannon and deal high dps.
    going a lil bit off-topic here: Can't say about HR who are tanky have decent cc and selfhealing and ofcourse deal high dps thanks to piercing ( aka broken/unbalanced/overpowered )

    The only way to survive piercing is having 200K+ hp and really good selfhealing. Defense, deflect and tenacity are useless when you face hr's/tr's doing piercing damage.

    I agree with op, dot damage should be buffed a lil bit and give sw a lil bit more cc :p

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