Feeding Frenzy and Time to Farm ESVA Keys :(

andorrabell

Okay guys, I can live with these key changes, but what I cannot live with is the inability to farm the faction I need for the keys I need to be able to maybe get a chance at ever finishing my weapon and offhand. I have gotten over 20 of the other marks and under 10 of Uvars.

In order to get more than one Uvar-Type key a week you need Storm Giant's faction. In order to get Storm Giant's faction you need to complete HEs. This would be okay if they were farmable solo (as the keys are that you get from fishing and daily quests - Ild & Stig) but feeding frenzy makes this very difficult. Trying to solo 600 weight of fish while a giant water dragon turtle periodically kills you is not FUN and it seems to be up in every zone (I thought hey! I'll just change instances.. but surprise surprise every instance I switched to had the same HE up).

Maybe I'm missing something that makes this soloable in a reasonable amount of time, if so please share-- but if there isn't a good way to do this.. please axe it. Yes, I know I could try to find a group(s) or instance to farm the Big HEs but I shouldn't be forced to do that when you don't have to do that to get a reasonable amount of the other two keys. Even with Big HEs it's 5 per key- If an average group takes 10 minutes to do a big HE and move to the next one that's almost 1 hour!! That's crazy to farm one key (assume the same for small HE if they were all doable in 5 minutes with a move to the next- FF definitely is not unless I'm really missing something).

Edit: Yeah try 5 minutes to complete and move to a new small HE solo on a 4k+ "endgame" SW w/purple khyek

Finding people to do esva at all has just gotten astronomically harder-- I think overall these marks need to be farmable so it takes say 20min per day at the most to farm each one (I'm not sure how the timing is for the fishing or the daily quests key but for SURE Uvar solo seems crazy longer comparatively unless you group up-- too many roadblocks!!!) .

As usual Cryptic has put in the change before the remedy- please look at the timing needed to farm these keys solo before esva becomes a graveyard. I'd also look at the faction based on the daily quests- these seem to have a hard lock on them while the fishing keys are essentially endless (AND you can store the fish for later unlike the other factions).

OR.. put in an exchange system for the legendary marks. Or both. Even at 20 min per key that means it would take SIXTY minutes of farming for every one run of a dungeon to be able to open all the chests. Anything longer than that is nuts, truly.

PS I've played this game continually for years and invested a HAMSTER ton of money and I am not kidding when i say that if this is not fixed I will seriously consider bailing. Here it is Sat night and without getting a ton of people involved I can't work on what I need to work on. And NO, I am not spending money on "legendary" keys to continue not getting orange Uvar Marks. I have already spent literally *months* not getting orange marks out of those chests playing peekaboo.

PPS I'd like a refund for the 60 odd legendary keys currently on my account that I now consider useless. Is that in the works? Because when I bought them they were good for something.

PS need to fix my maths its 5 BHE// 10 SMHE- still seems excessive

kallephi

It has been hard as hell to find Svardborg groups, I agree.

Because no SANE mind is going to do 25 HEs in Sea of Moving Ice with RIDICULOUS drop rates just for Storm Giant Rep 5. And also all we can get for arcane brotherhood is 1 rep per day. Why? Because they want us to spend zen to buy legendary dragon keys, and that's the truth.

Nobody in sane mind is going to buy 200-400 legendary dragon keys to make legendary weapon or offhand.
I gave up making my legendary shield on GF, even more because there is going to be a new weapon set soon (more grinding, more zen, more money)
I never threw my angriness on the forum like I'm doing now, but this new system is just a masked way to make people buy legendary keys from zen market because this 20 hours waiting to make a SINGLE key is RIDICULOUS.

You need 10 orange marks of each to put your weapon set on legendary.
How the hell are you going to do this without spending zen? 1 arcane brotherhood chest per day. Assuming a 10% chance on drop that's 10 keys per mark, 100 days...really? And in 100 days a new mod comes with new weapons and you just wasted your time. So what? If you want the shiny orange you need to pay zen.

And...who's using 3 leg dragon keys per run for a SMALL chance on a legendary ring and marks?...in 10 runs (you can do that in 2 hours, you just spent 1,800 zen and probably got 2 or 3 orange marks.

I'm a new player but I've heard a lot of old players are quitting. Why? Because almost everything is wrong in this game, the devs are DESTROYING a game that could be fun. I quit DDO because of "not-good" devs, and I'm starting to think I'm going to do the same with neverwinter.

I'm 1 hour afk in Sea of Moving Ice because I don't want to do the annoying dailies on Icewind Dale for a SINGLE key with a 20-hours "casting" time.
So what? I do the dailies, get ONE key, do Kessell's Retreat once and so what? I stop playing for the rest of the day, right?
So I do half dozen demonic HEs to create a lesser/greater demonic key.
Kill dragons to make tuern/elol keys. And then WHAT? I ran them 1 time each and then I wait 20 more hours....oh wait, no...I can SPEND ZEN to cheat that...I can spend my REAL MONEY or AD to get a reward from my TIME SPENT in a dungeon.

No game I've ever played requires a 20 hours waiting or real money to get a reward.

re·ward (rĭ-wôrd′)
n. 1. A consequence that happens to someone as a result of worthy or unworthy behavior

So the chest is a CONSEQUENCE of my time spent in that dungeon, jesus. And I need to wait 20 hours to be able to open the chest ONCE and then wait 20 more hours. Or I need to PAY for it. I need to PAY for my time spent.

I don't need to mention the many many games where you get chests for free.
This is driving me nuts.

CHESTS SHOULD BE UNLOCKED BECAUSE THEY ARE REWARDS for my time spent in the dungeon. I already spent 10-15 minutes of my life. And I still need to PAY for the reward? R-I-D-I-C-U-L-O-U-S!

lanalanlan1

Agree, ESVA is already hard to get in if you are not Tank or DC. Also it is hard to complete it if you are in the group that players don't know how to position themselves. Then the legendary mark is not dropping much. You have to grind for the key or buy legendary key. The key change hurts the progress of new weapons. I will let mine stay epic and grind for something else instead.

dean

OK. Heres where I am annoyed. I can get rank 5 rep with storm giant from BHEs and Elk Tribe from fishing - I actually LOVE to fish in sea of moving ice. the map in a bottle sells well on AH, as does the reagants u get from gutting the select blue fish. HOWEVER, you can only get 1 rep rank up A DAY to arcane brotherhood. I have been "getting lucky" and have been getting the orange marks of lld the last several days, HOWEVER, I STILL NEED ONE REGULAR MARK OF LLD. I have 11 marks of ugar, 11 marks of Stig and 4 marks of lld. I have had 4 marks of lld for over a week, still no REGULAR MARK OF LLD. I should probably consider myself lucky for this, however my relic artifact offhand is still GREEN quality while my relic mainhand has been purple for a long time. Please make it so we can get more than 1 rank up rep with arcane brotherhood a day. Make those dalies repeatable 4x a day, or better yet, unlimited times a day. Sincerely, I am always rank 5 rep with elk tribe, always 5 rep with storm giant and always 0-1 rep with arcane brotherhood. I cannot get enough (if any) marks of lld. EVER

Thank you for your time

santralafax

kallephi#0836 said:

And...who's using 3 leg dragon keys per run for a SMALL chance on a legendary ring and marks?...in 10 runs (you can do that in 2 hours, you just spent 1,800 zen and probably got 2 or 3 orange marks.

But you can't do that in two hours. It often takes half an hour to get a group together, and if successful, disbands after 2 runs due to lack of keys. There's 45 minutes for 2 runs on a good day. I won't talk about bad days.

dean#5595 said:

I cannot get enough (if any) marks of lld. EVER

Thank you for your time

I am at 90 runs and still only 1 Superior Mark of Ild. You are correct.